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is it possible to harvest 1 lb every month with a 600 watt hps?

Miraculous Meds

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You realize you contradicted yourself right? As for your first statement I have but I couldn't post one due to not having a camera. I have posted photos of my current tents and one of my old 12/12's that did yield nearly 4 oz's without lollipoping her. For you to say that it isn't possible is ridiculous given your last statement. If that "guy" you claim can achieve 1 lb per month with only 300 watts of cfls, why are we still having this discussion :biggrin:?



I posted a photo of the Mango Haze I grew from 12/12 a few post ago. Went 11 weeks an yield nearly 4 oz's. I hope people don't think I am trying to show anyone up or trying to be cocky. I am just breaking down the numbers given within a grow area and multiplying the yield per plant. It seems like simple math to me. Here she is 9 weeks in from 12/12. Again I wish my camera didn't brake at a bad time or I would have finish photos of her. I will have a journal updating my 12/12 5f x 5f tents, anyone is welcome to stop by and say hi :tiphat:.

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I understand what ur saying but can a plant that big be multiplied by the number of plants to reach the yield ur guessing u could get if u ran all the same seeds. Maybe that large plant takes the canopy space of several smaller ones, so u might not be able to fit that many big yielding plants in the same spot.

gl trying though, I do hope u achieve these results!
 

stoney917

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I would go 2 walls vert with the 600 on a mover have the walls a month apart dial that shit in with the right strain..... maybe do better... but that shit aint gonna just happen takes a few runs... id get more light...
 

DarthFader1

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I'd say with 2 600w lights you'd have a much better shot at it.

2 600w gardens staggered 1 month apart. If you did a true SOG (4 plants per sq ft)(36 plants per 600w light) you should be able to perpetually harvest 1 light (1 lb) a month with no veg time. Put well rooted clones directly into flower with goals of just under 1/2 ounce bud-sickles once dry.

With 1 600w light? Not impossible I guess, but certainly not likely.

My friend has a strain that he often gets 1oz bud sickles from an immediate 12/12, but it's the random mutant beast clone and not the norm across the entire garden. If could somehow get every clone to give a 1oz cola then he'd getting near 2.25lb per 600w. I'm unsure if this has ever been done.

This.

Assuming the grower is at least proficient in all the basics and has experience, has some good clone genetics, and even then your going to need another small area for cloning / veg unless you are purchasing clones each round.

To answer the actual OP question though, no i do not believe this is possible without a 2nd 600w lamp used for either vegging, flowering or a combination of both.

It's all about plant numbers (among other things) if you want to hit a GPW and above. I speak from experience as i regularly hit this mark and anything less i consider not efficient! Subtle brag i know. lol

darth
 
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DarthFader1

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I've hit 26oz per 600 watt several times, always in the winter when it's too cold for spider mites and the humidity is so low the buds don't rot .....some summers it's 18-20oz

Run 2 tents 4 weeks apart and I have enough to sell a pound a month and smoke myself into a haze

First you need a high yielding bug resistant strain, also not prone to bud rot, then dial it in

Once, dialed in leave it, I've seen more plants loved to death than any other cause

Nice work bro. Yeah see honestly i don't even blink an eye when i see these numbers as ive achieved them myself (as im sure lots of others have as well) and i really don't do anything that special yo.

Genetics, plant numbers, dialed in environment, custom soil mix, lots of love (but not too much), regular and accurate watering regime etc.

1gpw is NOT the holy grail imo, now 2gpw, that may just be:laughing:
 

Miraculous Meds

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Nice work bro. Yeah see honestly i don't even blink an eye when i see these numbers as ive achieved them myself (as im sure lots of others have as well) and i really don't do anything that special yo.

Genetics, plant numbers, dialed in environment, custom soil mix, lots of love (but not too much), regular and accurate watering regime etc.

1gpw is NOT the holy grail imo, now 2gpw, that may just be:laughing:

Plant numbers don't mean shit if ur talking gpw in flower. u can do it with 1 or 2 plants a light no prob.
 

DarthFader1

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Plant numbers don't mean shit if ur talking gpw in flower. u can do it with 1 or 2 plants a light no prob.

What i find truly miraculous and quite frankly a bit gross is your post count since September. That's borderline stalkery bro :yikes: And as such i will not entertain your unhelpful response other than to say no you are wrong. Yes you could achieve 1gpw with 1 or 2 plants however how long would one need to veg for to achieve the bush size required to achieve these yields? 4-6 weeks minimum from fully rooted clone i would guess from experience. This guy wants one elbow every 4 weeks, therefore your comment is actually irrelevant to the topic at hand.

"Plant numbers don't mean shit" Lol. Anyone that has experimented with all different sizes/techniques/numbers over many runs to increase their yields and therefore GPW would not say that
 
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Snook

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What i find truly miraculous and quite frankly a bit gross is your post count since September. That's borderline stalkery bro :yikes: And as such i will not entertain your unhelpful response other than to say no you are wrong. Yes you could achieve 1gpw with 1 or 2 plants however how long would one need to veg for to achieve the bush size required to achieve these yields? 4-6 weeks minimum from fully rooted clone i would guess from experience. This guy wants one elbow every 4 weeks, therefore your comment is actually irrelevant to the topic at hand.

"Plant numbers don't mean shit" Lol. Anyone that has experimented with all different sizes/techniques/numbers over many runs to increase their yields and therefore GPW would not say that
I do not know how you calculated post counts for a single month for another member (tell me please) and it is possible I'm missing something DV but they've been a member since 2012. there is the consideration of the member that might have become 'house bound'. as in recovering/debilitating health issues. IME, when i'm not 100% I spend more time at the computer and allot of that time is spent here >

EDIT: at the computer where the vaporizer is! vape, vape, vape, jabber, jabber, jabber.
 

stihgnobevoli

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he registered less than 60 days ago and has almost 1400 posts. 1440 minutes in a day, roughly 60 days since sept 1... 1440*60=86400minutes/1400 posts (rounding) =? 61.5 posts a minute?

that can't be right...
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ok i went back and did it again. he posts roughly once an hour 24/7

1387/86400*1440*60

anyway. it's gonna have to be all about numbers if you're trying to do a perpetual every month. if you do 2 huge plants. lets call em SSH. assuming each will yield half a pound after so many weeks veg on top of the 120+ days you need to finish. sure you could do it but you can't expect to see any returns for like 6 months or more. plus you would need like a warehouse to hold all these giant bushes in various stages of growth.

lot easier to just sog 16 1 oz plants and turn your trays every 2-4 weeks or whatever. look at me over here talking like i math. but you know the principles just exponetialize. is that a word?
 

Miraculous Meds

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Yes you could achieve 1gpw with 1 or 2 plants.

That's all I meant.

I realize u were referring to the op's post and I was referring to this:

darth fader wrote, "It's all about plant numbers (among other things) if you want to hit a GPW and above."

I took it out of context.

Sorry bud,

have a good day.
 

jd4083

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That depends...are we talking about an actual, real world, dry pound? Or are we talking about an internet cannabis forum hazy pipe dream "pound"? Let's be honest...the latter is a lot more commonly discussed than the former...
 

Riddleme

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That depends...are we talking about an actual, real world, dry pound? Or are we talking about an internet cannabis forum hazy pipe dream "pound"? Let's be honest...the latter is a lot more commonly discussed than the former...

Kudos or +rep I can't give rep yet but well said !!!
 

Riddleme

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Tis not hard to do my way is to veg a hybrid clone (hard to do with most real sats) to 17 inches then remove all leaves but the top 2 nodes, bury the stem in a bigger bucket (5~10gal) the veg to 17~18 inches remove leaves again (causes branches to come up) then veg to 3 feet, then flip total veg time is 9~11 weeks depending on strain
 

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DarthFader1

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That's all I meant.

I realize u were referring to the op's post and I was referring to this:

darth fader wrote, "It's all about plant numbers (among other things) if you want to hit a GPW and above."

I took it out of context.

Sorry bud,

have a good day.

Thanks for saying that bro, and sorry i can get a bit snippy, but don't take it personally it's just my personality
 

DarthFader1

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That depends...are we talking about an actual, real world, dry pound? Or are we talking about an internet cannabis forum hazy pipe dream "pound"? Let's be honest...the latter is a lot more commonly discussed than the former...

Lol @ the pipe dream lb, i legit lol'd. I just assumed we were talking about a real world manicured, dried & cured to perfection lb. Anything else and it's being done wrong imo, personal standards are extremely important to uphold in everything. Nothing infuriates me more than blatant incompetence especially when it comes to growing the weed.

Rant over!
darth
 

Miraculous Meds

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Thanks for saying that bro, and sorry i can get a bit snippy, but don't take it personally it's just my personality

Nope I don't. At first I posted back out of frustration, but medicated myself and realized that im just defending my ego.

that allowed me to see where u were coming from and how I took ur statements out of context.

I can tell by the first post of urs that we are on the same side. trying to advance what we are doing, so id rather make sure my posts reinforce positive advances rather than defending my fragile little ego.

lol... im workin on it. :tiphat:
 

DarthFader1

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Nope I don't. At first I posted back out of frustration, but medicated myself and realized that im just defending my ego.

that allowed me to see where u were coming from and how I took ur statements out of context.

I can tell by the first post of urs that we are on the same side. trying to advance what we are doing, so id rather make sure my posts reinforce positive advances rather than defending my fragile little ego.

lol... im workin on it. :tiphat:

Aww cute now we're friends :biggrin:

Great post bro i agree with every word except the one's that are spelt wrong :laughing: Yeah stupid human ego's aye, the cause of so much drama in this world, i am also working on it to improve as a person.

grow on
darth
 

Granger2

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One 600w light. For an lb/month, that's 2.5 lb every 2.5 months. So that's 1135 gm, divided by 600 = 1.9 gm/w. Good luck. -granger
 

BenAndChons

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With a moderate amount of experience you could do it with 600 watts of power, flip flopped between two 600 watt flower rooms/tents. If you're handy and can build your own flip box the whole setup could be done pretty cheap. Definitely less than the cost of one crop. Run two 4x4 tents vertical scrog style and you might even beat those numbers.

Of course you'd also need a mom / clone chamber to keep that kind of perpetual setup going
 
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