bigbluedog360
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looking for that iss myself. got iss/ hawaiian sativa and iss/bc skunk but not the iss pure.its a real heavy cropper when grown outside.
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Is ISS the Skunk we have been searching for???
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I've grown out Fed's ISS (cheifsmoking knows the cut) and Steve's SS cut, and Cpt Crip, if you're after a skunk that actualy smells like skunk NEITHER are the plant you are looking for.
They're both exceptional, but again this is a case of the 'skunk' in the name meaning very little in the end product.
The right pheno of ISS (and there are quite a few good phenos) matches the Sweet Skunk clone (sorry Steve) closer than ANY other 'clone-only' in seed form I've grown, Sour D included.
Rolled into a joint an experience toker could not tell the difference between the ISS cut I run and Steve's SS. edit for clarity 'an experienced toker' refers to experienced daily smokers who don't grow, not super cannasuers like online.
Growing the ISS cut i have is a sturdier plant, with slightly less vigor, and less stretch than SS. The ISS buds are slightly denser, and slightly more rounded, but damn the pistils and early flower bud formation is dead on. And the ISS is good at 8-9 weeks where as the SS is best at least 11-12 weeks. edit for clarification from what i've seen most ISS phenos take at least 10 weeks, with some going 11-12 jus like SS.
I've only run this ISS cut, and Steve's SS once each, and I still have both as keepers until I figure out which i prefer.
But as to Cpt. Crip's question, no, this is most likely not the skunk you are looking for, in fact, not even close. From my experience i think you are more likely to find a 'skunky' smelling pheno in Skunk #1 than in ISS, and that's saying alot.
Altho ISS and SS are still definately cannasuer quality stasth, no question.
They're both exceptional, but again this is a case of the 'skunk' in the name meaning very little in the end product.
The right pheno of ISS (and there are quite a few good phenos) matches the Sweet Skunk clone (sorry Steve) closer than ANY other 'clone-only' in seed form I've grown, Sour D included.
Rolled into a joint an experience toker could not tell the difference between the ISS cut I run and Steve's SS. edit for clarity 'an experienced toker' refers to experienced daily smokers who don't grow, not super cannasuers like online.
Growing the ISS cut i have is a sturdier plant, with slightly less vigor, and less stretch than SS. The ISS buds are slightly denser, and slightly more rounded, but damn the pistils and early flower bud formation is dead on. And the ISS is good at 8-9 weeks where as the SS is best at least 11-12 weeks. edit for clarification from what i've seen most ISS phenos take at least 10 weeks, with some going 11-12 jus like SS.
I've only run this ISS cut, and Steve's SS once each, and I still have both as keepers until I figure out which i prefer.
But as to Cpt. Crip's question, no, this is most likely not the skunk you are looking for, in fact, not even close. From my experience i think you are more likely to find a 'skunky' smelling pheno in Skunk #1 than in ISS, and that's saying alot.
Altho ISS and SS are still definately cannasuer quality stasth, no question.
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Thanks for posting Beancounter...
Very informative!
I have come to that conclusion myself...I'm very glad to haved grabbed pack nonetheless...
I'll be sure to clone every individual...
Take care..........................CC
Very informative!
I have come to that conclusion myself...I'm very glad to haved grabbed pack nonetheless...
I'll be sure to clone every individual...
Take care..........................CC
Trich watcher
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I have ISS in my garden via clone, thanks to a a kind friend, and am thrilled with it. The taste is wonderful, slightly fruity,sweet, menthol - very complex flavors... and the high is a soaring, euphoric, motivating sativa high. It is quite beautiful and easy to grow, and it does have extraordinary trichome development at the very end, amazing really how it packs it on at the end... ready in 10 weeks. I'm very grateful for this wonderful plant. The high reminds me of Greenhouse's Super Silver Haze, but the taste is even better... yummmm.
Trich watcher
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Pretty photogenic up close too!
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G
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beancounter.. you're telling us you have a plant that goes 8 weeks, and another that goes 50% longer at "at least" 11-12, and that experienced smokers cant tell the difference?
with such a large gap in flowering times I just find that very hard to believe. could you share some pics for comparison?
with such a large gap in flowering times I just find that very hard to believe. could you share some pics for comparison?
Trich watcher
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Oh, and here's a macro of the same a couple weeks or so before harvest...
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Red
Saving the Planet, One Seed At A Time
Great pics guys! IMHO, the ISS is very different from the original. It might have some of the same profiles but the MAJOR difference is in resin quality. The original SOL cut's resin is far more pronounced and flavorful. I have grown, smoked and seen both. It's like Coca Cola VS RC Cola-ya know what I meen?
Thanks for the input Red...
Your knowledge of the subject is always appreciated...
Your knowledge of the subject is always appreciated...
mushupork5
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here is some ISS that i had a few weeks ago. yummmmmmmmmy
the lorax said:
well, firstly not all ISS can be taken as early as 8 weeks, and my cut shoulda probly gone 9 weeks for it to be fully finished.
Secondly, when I say experienced smoker I'm not talking about super cannasuer's like online, i'm talking about daily smokers who buy commercialy but don't grow themselves... I have no doubt Steve, or someone like cbf/inspecta could easily tell the difference just from smoking it.
I was only speaking purely of smoking joints of the 2 different strains, not examining the buds, trichomes, or structure. Altho i'm sure most non growers would still have a hard time identifying the buds after cut from the plant and trimmed.
I don't really have good enough pics of the ISS to compare, plus my last ISS did poorly because of mites so it wouldn't be a good comparison pic... But again, that is NOT what I was talking about, the visual appearance that is.. I was only speaking of the taste/smell/flavor and general stone. Also, I wasn't speaking to ISS as the full line, only comparing it to my specific ISS cut that is a very popular cut in BC.
From what I can see this cut was selected for it's similarities in taste/smell and potency/high to the original Sweet Skunk clone.
But I have sampled over a pack worth of phenos of ISS and overall I found it to be a pretty damn good representation of the Sweet Skunk clone, better than some 'elites in seed form' i've tried.
I'm not trying to make ISS sound better than it is or SS sound worse than it is, just giving my personal experience with it and relaying some of the comments i've gotten from other smokers.
It's obvious from pictures of the plants they're dif, so posting pics isn't gonna change anything or proove anything.. Plus I would rather have pics of a healthy ISS plant to post so it's a fair comparo.
Red said:
I hear ya red, in general the ISS line has more indica in it and less stretch.
But, if you find the right pheno of ISS the differences in smoke between ISS and SS are very minor.
Maybe I'll bring you a rolled joint of each and see if u can tell the difference
Cheese, and thats that.....seriously.....it must be in america by now, the clone i mean not any backcross seed versions in fact ive seen someone in us who says theyre breeding from it soo unless theyre full of shit it must have made it across the pond by now..... Maybe if sams still got the right alternative parents he might feel like releasing a special roadkill version of skunk-i know thered be demand
Cheese (uk cut) is most definately in North America now Here she is at 59 days 12/12.
And yes, if you're a skunk lover (animal smell, not sweet 'skunk' like Skunk#1) I would start with Cheese and ECSD 1st. You may be able to find some decent phenos in either seed line (BB's or Rez's) but I can't say for sure, as I've only grown 1 female SD IBL and it was more lemony/greasy smelling than skunky. but 1 girl isn't a good representation of the line obviously.
Anyways, back to ISS and SS. I didn't really wanna post my ISS as i had mites pretty bad that grow, and she was also overferted, especialy N, and stunted flower production. It's just not fair to the ISS in a comparison sense.
Also, the SS, from my mistake, was not fed long enough as I mixed up the flowering time with ISS being the stoner that I am, so she got straight water from about 45 days flower with no nutes in the medium otherwise.
So please take into consideration that these plants are sorta on extreme ends of the spectrum as far as nutes are concerned. And as my experiences has showm me a plant with too much N always does worse than a plant with not enough. And also the ISS was done in the hottest part of the yr, and the SS finished in fall when it's much, much cooler. So resin production on the ISS is likely lower than it could be.
Both plants are in 1 gallon of Sunshine Mix#4, no ammendments/perlite and fed with 3 part chems.
the 3-4 week pistil shape developement is the only real area where they look the same, and these 2 cuts smell pretty much identical in flower.
ISS @ about 8 weeks 12/12 and some cured for 1 month:
SS @ 80 days exactly 12-12, no cured shots:
Here she is at 59 days 12/12.
And yes, if you're a skunk lover (animal smell, not sweet 'skunk' like Skunk#1) I would start with Cheese and ECSD 1st. You may be able to find some decent phenos in either seed line (BB's or Rez's) but I can't say for sure, as I've only grown 1 female SD IBL and it was more lemony/greasy smelling than skunky. but 1 girl isn't a good representation of the line obviously.
Anyways, back to ISS and SS. I didn't really wanna post my ISS as i had mites pretty bad that grow, and she was also overferted, especialy N, and stunted flower production. It's just not fair to the ISS in a comparison sense.
Also, the SS, from my mistake, was not fed long enough as I mixed up the flowering time with ISS being the stoner that I am, so she got straight water from about 45 days flower with no nutes in the medium otherwise.
So please take into consideration that these plants are sorta on extreme ends of the spectrum as far as nutes are concerned. And as my experiences has showm me a plant with too much N always does worse than a plant with not enough. And also the ISS was done in the hottest part of the yr, and the SS finished in fall when it's much, much cooler. So resin production on the ISS is likely lower than it could be.
Both plants are in 1 gallon of Sunshine Mix#4, no ammendments/perlite and fed with 3 part chems.
the 3-4 week pistil shape developement is the only real area where they look the same, and these 2 cuts smell pretty much identical in flower.
ISS @ about 8 weeks 12/12 and some cured for 1 month:
SS @ 80 days exactly 12-12, no cured shots:
There you got then capt, cheese is in the states......
I was just about to post that id seen it in joebrands thread but you beat me to it with ur own beancounter,
that ISS of yours looks pretty nice though, got some nice resin to her huh..
Be lucky all
I was just about to post that id seen it in joebrands thread but you beat me to it with ur own beancounter,
that ISS of yours looks pretty nice though, got some nice resin to her huh..
Be lucky all
that cheese was cut in the summer, i can't wait for the monster i have coming down in a month or so 
I love her with a passion, definate perma-keeper.
The ISS is definately a nice strain, it's too bad they 'kinda took' steve's work, but at least people can get a taste of the rare SS clone. It's that or S1s..
The resin is definately pretty nice, but too much N, 90-95 degrees, and fairly bad mites definately hurt her. I can't wait to see what she can really do on the 2nd run. Also worth noting is too much N will make a plant much more leafier than normal.
But Sweet Skunk is phenominal, and I'm not trying to lessen Steve's work or make it not sound as good as it really is. But she can be unruly. My plant above entered flower at about 12-14" topped twice and finished flower well over 4' tall. And, she's almost impossible to find for the average grower.. so the ISS is a decent alternative IMHO and some phenos can really match the SS's taste/potency pretty much to a T, and it will finish faster and is easier to grow.
By all means, if you can get SS go for it, it's unreal. But most growers will not be disapointed by ISS by any means, IMHO.
enjoy your ISS folks!
I love her with a passion, definate perma-keeper.The ISS is definately a nice strain, it's too bad they 'kinda took' steve's work, but at least people can get a taste of the rare SS clone. It's that or S1s..
The resin is definately pretty nice, but too much N, 90-95 degrees, and fairly bad mites definately hurt her. I can't wait to see what she can really do on the 2nd run. Also worth noting is too much N will make a plant much more leafier than normal.
But Sweet Skunk is phenominal, and I'm not trying to lessen Steve's work or make it not sound as good as it really is. But she can be unruly. My plant above entered flower at about 12-14" topped twice and finished flower well over 4' tall. And, she's almost impossible to find for the average grower.. so the ISS is a decent alternative IMHO and some phenos can really match the SS's taste/potency pretty much to a T, and it will finish faster and is easier to grow.
By all means, if you can get SS go for it, it's unreal. But most growers will not be disapointed by ISS by any means, IMHO.
enjoy your ISS folks!
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Island Sweet Skunk grow video by the Advanced Nutrient nerds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaNG1pN9We4&NR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaNG1pN9We4&NR
pineappaloupe
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I have an ISS cut, not sure the full lineage but I am pretty sure it is legit. Mine smells even in veg, with resin covered preflowers. Stretches a lot in veg, if topped the stretch in flower is pretty manageable. The smell is like no other. Citrusy, dank, skunky, it will stick on your clothes for a week.
I let it go 12 weeks, trich heads dont start to turn until around then. It swells up huge, but dries out alot. And in flower, it just flops over. Little branches just cant handle it.
The high is not really what I would call uplifting... it is really strong and will knock you out, in a trippy way.
I let it go 12 weeks, trich heads dont start to turn until around then. It swells up huge, but dries out alot. And in flower, it just flops over. Little branches just cant handle it.
The high is not really what I would call uplifting... it is really strong and will knock you out, in a trippy way.
