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Interstate checkpoints....

Phillthy

Seven-Thirty
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Be very careful around I95 toll tunnel outside of Baltimore - lots of undercover cops. Also if you can, avoid I95 altogether from Baltimore to south of Washington during heavy traffic rush hour, 7:30 - 9:30 am and 3:30 - 7:00 pm.

One thing you might want to consider is Rt. 301 - it parallels I95 most of the way down and ends up in Ocala, Fla. It's still a lazy scenic rural route for most of the trip.

Once you get to Florida you have to watch out for all of the nasty little speed traps the small towns are known for.:yeahthats

Have fun! :smile:


yeah MD and VA are probably the two worst states for 95. Bmore does have a ton of under covers around the tunnel. watch going through richmond in va too.
 
B

boo

I wont enter the dabate about if or if not florida has a constitutional free zone but I drive at least 50,000 miles on florida highways every year and have for 39 years...florida cops suck and need NO excuse to pull you, profile you, and bust you...it's a fact...read any books you care to, call the aclu, or just drive down the road...they will fuck with you if they have the slightest inclination you may be a decent mark...once they have your liscence they "legally" have you under arrest until you bond out by signing the the ticket admitting reciept, not guilt...they have 45 minutes from when they pull you until they are compelled to release you, or arrest you, whichever they want to do...dogs are in patrol cars and always within the 45 minute time limit...I'd go to florida via omaha if I could...be smart and arive alive
 
Sure, here it is from the ACLU site:

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/areyoulivinginaconstitutionfreezone.html

flaming is so not good. Just check the real facts, or live in the zone.


It is NOt ' flaming' to correctly report on a subject. The ACLU ARTICLE you refer to simply says that the government cliams to be able to operate up to 100 miles inland. That does NOT mean any such thing as a " Constitution free zone' ion any respect. Please show me ONE source other than a writers figurative use of speech that supports the allegation that the Constitution does not exist in these areas.

Just because the Border Patrol claims to be able to go inland for X miles does NOT mean a damned thing. Show us ONE COURT case that says that the Constitution does not remain in effect in these regions.

You cannot do so. That means that there is NO SUCH THING as a Constitution Free Zone except in the minds of writers of articles that lambast the supposed fact that the Border Patrol can operate inland.

The words : " Constitution Free Zone" are in QUOTES in all references because it is not a legal or known term...it is a MADE UP TERM to describe the OPINION that the Border Patrol limits are somehow a danger to us all.

It is like saying: " The fact that the Coast Guard can operate in inland lakes and waters means that they can abuse our Rights in our backyard canal". It is only an OPINION by a WRITER and nothing more. It is NOT a legal or commonly used term in any way shape or form.

So next time bro..before you accuse me of flaming, make sure you do not just parrot a phrase from an article and imply that it somehow means a real situation. Of COURSE the ACLU is going to object to ANY alleged usurpation of States rights and government expansion, even in matters as mundane as the Border Patrols area of legal reach.

Just because the majority of the population lives within 100 miles of a coast does NOT mean that our Rights are any less in force...all it means is that certain entities see this as worth mention...and thats ALL it means.

It does not mean that we are all living with no Constitutional protections if we live 100 miles from the coast...thats nonsense. AGAIN, show me ONE court case that says that we lose our rights within 100 miles of the coast...it does not exist.

Quoting articles by UNNAMED writers and OPINIONS by others, named or not, does NOT equal a FACT. Remember that before you assume anything.
 

sorcival

Member
not even worth replying to...I live in Fl. 'nuff said.
As in...next time you are in the 'no-constitution zone' just try to explain
to some fat jackbooted thug that you got rights. yeah. Alot of my buds
said so too, and they are still mia. But, like you state, the aclu page is bs, right?
No disrespect, but you gotta live it before you know, like on a daily basis.
If what you believe above is true for you, then cool...ride on.
 

ResinKing

Member
If I was you mate , Id vacume pack it like you said , find a nice tight ''cool'' place in your engine and stash it there and keep enough for a spliff for every 100 miles on you in the car but have your little stash in easy reach of you so you can chew it and swallow it if the cops pull your ass.
 
not even worth replying to...I live in Fl. 'nuff said.
As in...next time you are in the 'no-constitution zone' just try to explain
to some fat jackbooted thug that you got rights. yeah. Alot of my buds
said so too, and they are still mia. But, like you state, the aclu page is bs, right?
No disrespect, but you gotta live it before you know, like on a daily basis.
If what you believe above is true for you, then cool...ride on.

So, living in Florida means that you can disregard all the FACTS I stated...right? Unreal..just give it up and admit that there is NO SUCH THING as a constitution free zone and stop looking petty. NO COURT CASES....NO PROOF...just " I live in fla."...you are some debater!!

Jackbooted thug cops still have to answer to the courts, and none of your pals has ever had his right staken away because they live within 100 miles of the coast, now have they? No, they haven't. I was born and raised in Miami and spent 34 years there, so I am NOT unaware of how scummy most cops are there....but that does NOT MEAN anything about a constitution free zone, now does it? No.You are obviously very young; your logic runs like this: " Professor, I don't care how many history books you show me, I LIVE in this state so I know the books are all wrong". Nonsense. Logic and common sense mean more than your twisted logic and avoidance of the facts.

Now, on to reality: There are many states that now require drivers to move over or slow down when approaching an emergency vehicle on the roadside...it is to keep accidents down and troopers and cops from getting run over. Thats it.
 

stasis

Registered Non-Conformist
Veteran
Re: Sorcival: California has had checkpoints for a long time.. Every Weekend, and some Weekdays, there are quite a few.

In a small enuf town, oing out after dark is an entry into the Gauntlet. Because there are so few cars on the road, it becomes like an impromptu Checkpoint. Every car is profiled after dark. There is no nightlife, so anyone out is most likey, "up to no good," according to local LEO opinion. Sure makes the town MORE than Boring. Like CRAZE Inducing......

These Classic Checkpoints in Rural NorCal are under the guise of DUI checks, but shake out to be Immigration and Drug Checkpoints, primarily.

Even if there are a good number of License violations and DUI's caught, the main purpose is the above.
 
Always try and see if the filthy cops have dogs at a roadblock; it is illegal. the presence of a narcotics detection dog at a checkpoint is ILLEGAL in all states. The federal law prohibits narcotics checkpoints. If you see a dog at a roadblock record it and get witnesses and raise hell later. The ONLY time a cop can legally walk a dog around a stopped car is when you have been pulled over for a violation ( which gives them the legal right to detain you for the walk around) NOT when you are stopped for other reasons, like a roadblock.

I single handedly made the local scum stop using dogs at checkpoints by writing a letter to the editor and explaining how illegal it is. Now you never see a dog near the roadblocks. The Sheriff here KNOWS that if he allows the cops to break the law I will be raising hell and embassing him. I am well known here; I often write contributing columns for the papers and it is always about ganja laws or police mnisconduct. The cops hate me; but who cares?

They leave me alone. There are two ways to be safe: One is to hide and try and be totally un known...the other is to be openly in opposition to the filth and let them know that they better never come without a real case lest they be even more embarrassed.

I am safer I believe than many hiders...a cop will think twice about messing with me.
 

del...

Active member
well, illegal or not, 30 miles south of tucson there's an established, full time road block ALL northbound vehicles on I-19 must pass thru...it's a customs stop looking for illegal aliens but there are dogs for each lane and they check ALL vehicles with a walk-around...
 

Haps

stone fool
Veteran
We do not have checkpoints here in the land of Lincoln/Obama, but the state boys here will grab your ass if you are Hispanic driving a truck. They get big truckloads of weed, and money, just by profiling brown skinned folks. But there is almost always a traffic law broken to start the thing, amazing to me. It has been over thirty years since I drove trucks of weed cross country, but even then we knew to go slow and easy.
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SouthernGuerila

Gotta Smoke 'Em All!
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Stupid fuckers that insist on looking like thugs, drug dealers or whatever are obviously going to get the most shit from LEO.

Get your priorities in order. Do you want to get blazed and risk being a warm body in a cold jail cell. Or do you want to get to your destination with little or no grief?
 

Pops

Resident pissy old man
Veteran
Always try and see if the filthy cops have dogs at a roadblock; it is illegal. the presence of a narcotics detection dog at a checkpoint is ILLEGAL in all states. The federal law prohibits narcotics checkpoints. If you see a dog at a roadblock record it and get witnesses and raise hell later. The ONLY time a cop can legally walk a dog around a stopped car is when you have been pulled over for a violation ( which gives them the legal right to detain you for the walk around) NOT when you are stopped for other reasons, like a roadblock.

I single handedly made the local scum stop using dogs at checkpoints by writing a letter to the editor and explaining how illegal it is. Now you never see a dog near the roadblocks. The Sheriff here KNOWS that if he allows the cops to break the law I will be raising hell and embassing him. I am well known here; I often write contributing columns for the papers and it is always about ganja laws or police mnisconduct. The cops hate me; but who cares?

They leave me alone. There are two ways to be safe: One is to hide and try and be totally un known...the other is to be openly in opposition to the filth and let them know that they better never come without a real case lest they be even more embarrassed.

I am safer I believe than many hiders...a cop will think twice about messing with me.

Evidently, Smokey, you do not live near the Mexican border. I do! Every road out of my town has a Border Patrol checkpoint and they rotate dogs around to most of them. I have been pulled over and searched twice because a dog hit on my car. I was not carrying anything either time, but still got lectures on drugs from BP officers. I started lecturing them back and have not been pulled over since. Border Patrol activity has increased since Obama took office and now Cali Hiway Patrol are backing them up. I-8 from Yuma to San Diego is very heavily patrolled and you will see dogs at checkpoints.
 

goody420

Member
If ur not mexican or black you have nothing to worry about, and police cant setup checkpoints on the interstate, but they can setup check points on an exit getting off an interstate. Now once you get close to the Mexico border its a different story.
 

Unionman

Member
and police cant setup checkpoints on the interstate, but they can setup check points on an exit getting off an interstate. QUOTE]

Weather they can or can't they do. Before 911 a few buddies and I drove to mexico to visit some of his fam and party. When we were on our way back some where in new mexico they had cones on the freeway making all cars take the exit, at the top of that exit there was border patrol. They asked if we were carring a ton of dope and if everyone was an american I replied no about the dope and yes to the american questions. We also had Washington plates. I cannot remember if they had a dog or not, Im sure they would have had one somewhere.
 

goody420

Member
Weather they can or can't they do. Before 911 a few buddies and I drove to mexico to visit some of his fam and party. When we were on our way back some where in new mexico they had cones on the freeway making all cars take the exit, at the top of that exit there was border patrol. They asked if we were carring a ton of dope and if everyone was an american I replied no about the dope and yes to the american questions. We also had Washington plates. I cannot remember if they had a dog or not, Im sure they would have had one somewhere.

READ the BOLD

If ur not mexican or black you have nothing to worry about, and police cant setup checkpoints on the interstate, but they can setup check points on an exit getting off an interstate. Now once you get close to the Mexico border its a different story.
 

del...

Active member
besides which they have ways around setting up official roadblocks. a trick they like to use at rainbow gatherings is pull over someone for a minor infraction (no seatbelts, didn't use turn signal, dirty window, etc) then the 1st cop will park with his ass end in a good portion of the 2-lane road so their 2-3 back-ups (with dogs), and sometimes more can check out those slowing way down to work their way thru the maze...

all the more reason to make sure your vehicle is in perfect running condition and obey the law of the road.
 

del...

Active member
AND...another example is hoover dam, 30 miles south of vegas. both north and southbound lanes are required to drive thru and stop at permanent police checkpoints...no ifs ands or butts! if they can't see the floor of a car or pickup they search. covered trucks and all rv's are automatically searched...no semi trucks allowed. they have to drive around thru laughlin, a far safer way from az, to and from vegas.
 

hkush

Member
Don't be like me and accidentally pull up to the guard shack at Fort Knox, while in possession of weed and ask about the tours. Actually, don't pull up there at all. :)

The other sad sack that pulled up next to me was having his car searched, hood open, tools out! Luckily they didn't search me. Just took my license, checked it and told me to get out, then followed me 3 miles to the next exit.
 

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