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International Clone Only cuts in the UK

toppin

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@Chemjone's if your fairy is who I think he is then its my keepper from seed (Canna Ventures = Gsc x Trainwreck bx2). No sweet gsc smells or taste to her more of a nice unique burnt coffeeish smell. Super frostie. Done around week 8-9 (dont like the taste when taken at week 10). Yield's about 3-4 oz.

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toppin

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Got them from seedbay on here, back in late 2012 / early 2013 not 100% sure on when. I see them get restocked at the tude every now and then.
 
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Got them from seedbay on here, back in late 2012 / early 2013 not 100% sure on when. I see them get restocked at the tude every now and then.


thanks bro, all sold out atm but i'll keep my eyes peeled for the next drop that's one cookie cross i'm interested in growing :tiphat:
 

Ganja baba

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You won't get 3 per plant on any of those cuttings bro not in a 1m2 tent.

Been there and tried for years and years.. Your best to get them tents cropping a month apart to maximise profits and limit your stink... 600 w is too much for a 1m2 and not enough for a 2m2 tent.. I didn't notice that you had a 2m2 tent. Or have you 2x 1m2 tents?

If I told you you will struggle to pull 3 ounce of any of those plants even in coco, without more nodes some stem manipulation and grouping into monocultures I can't see it...

I'm sure you will do well tho and the smoke will be outstanding coxnox.. Tent of flavours...

Hi mate I grow all my cheese cuts ona light cycle of 13 hours in and 11 off it adds a week or two onto the flower time but you will get at least 25% more on cheese cuts and other similar lower yielding types . Quite a few members on here do this now . Brings out highlighted traits we love too .
I need to get my suicide cut back got every other cheese cut but my original suicide which was by the way the original exodus .
 

Ganja baba

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sorry bro no ive never heard of it but sonic/ganja baba would be the man to ask.:tiphat:

I've not heard of the Brixton cut , but when I hear of long flowereds from there they tend to be African but I've not heard of a Brixton cut as off yet sounds nice though
 

Ganja baba

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I was passed a Lemon haze cutting around a year ago from the midlands area, ive been looking online for info but not found anything until now.
I notice you said yours has more thin leaves, however in veg mine has more fat wider leaves, i pull her at 8 weeks for timing reasons however she does like she could go longer. Stinks in veg when you rub the leaves smells like straight lemon with a hint of amnesia however ive noticed the amnesia smell doesnt carry through in flower.
But yeah i would love to see a picture of her .

I have a Midlands lemon haze cut it isn't very stretchy for the type of bud it gives , got to grow it right though . If chopped early it will be fluffy and hay parsley type , got to keep it green till the end and it will take on a deeper almost amnesia twang with far more lemon very dense bugs with purple twangs and shed loads of resin . That's the cut I have , I crossed it with a London fog (jtr x pursang) and called it super lemon drizzle .
It's a great plant to breed with make diamond lemon drizzle types when crossed to other lemon types
 

chemjones

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looks like a nice strain toppin love the colours in your photos plus glad its a good yielder to. Ganja Baby the Suicide cutting was Sonics old Cheese cutting I grew it once and let it go imo didnt have half the smell and not very strong sonic always said it grows bigger bigger with 13 hours on 11 off, it looks almost identical but promise you its not a patch on the Brightside cutting not getting into a discussion about which is the original as it always goes nowhere the Suicide Cutting I grew was defo the correct one as it came from sonic. Its now generally excepted the Exodus crew didnt create the original Cheese it was given to them and they in turm handed out a lot of crosses they didnt have the Suicide cutting thats Sonics Cheese. They had what I call the Brightside cutting. But theres been a million threads on it so reluctant to get back into it.
 

chemjones

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Never thought, Ganja Baby are you Sonic makes sense now you saying my Suicide cheese. It does look identical to the Brightside you can tell its another really old cutting probably from around the same timeframe but as stated in earlier post it may be a really old Skunk N01 from around the same time but it didnt have half the smell or strength trying to be careful dont want to come across as disrepectful as I appreciate youve done some amazing breeding but once youve grown the other one theres no mistake as its by far the smelliest plant I've ever come across. Out of the Cheesy types still around I'd say the Nl x Cheese (Nelly) and the Psychosis are the best ones.
 

"HEMPEROR"

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Hi mate I grow all my cheese cuts ona light cycle of 13 hours in and 11 off it adds a week or two onto the flower time but you will get at least 25% more on cheese cuts and other similar lower yielding types . Quite a few members on here do this now . Brings out highlighted traits we love too .
I need to get my suicide cut back got every other cheese cut but my original suicide which was by the way the original exodus .

yeh HGO recommended the 13/11 to me and im trying now for the first go. no cheeses but plenty blue cuts im hoping it has the same effect.:tiphat: a week or 2 you say? wow was only expecting an extra week max.
 

Mate Dave

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I can say that the effects of 12-12 and 13-11 made no difference in yield that I noticed. You can always give weed another few weeks.. I believe better to have a longer dark than the light or you risk veging them... Basic horticulture guys and gals.. 12 hours dark for a few days triggers the flowering hormones faster so.... That is the cut off point 12/12 the rest of the stuff just tickles them unfortunately.

I'll let you guys believe this Bro-Science.. Me I know better unfortunately...


This 25% on a 400w grow would amount to 15 zips instead of 12... Not hard to better anyway with cultural methods..

Better to give the plants 24 hours light in the swelling phase for a few photoperiod cycles as documented by a handful of commercial guys.. With cheese... It don't herm .. Ever, so you can beast it to fuck.. Hydro or coco will allow this to maximise the yield of flowers and not un necessary primary metabolites...


Cheese just claws and crab fists late in flower.. I have picked 3-4 grams of these of my tops. Got 100 tops... Got about 300G's more Simples... Leaders per square foot and light footprint make the extra weight from experience...


The rest of the... I did this and got 600g's per is man's massaging their big egos...
 

theherbalizor

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Never thought, Ganja Baby are you Sonic makes sense now you saying my Suicide cheese. It does look identical to the Brightside you can tell its another really old cutting probably from around the same timeframe but as stated in earlier post it may be a really old Skunk N01 from around the same time but it didnt have half the smell or strength trying to be careful dont want to come across as disrepectful as I appreciate youve done some amazing breeding but once youve grown the other one theres no mistake as its by far the smelliest plant I've ever come across. Out of the Cheesy types still around I'd say the Nl x Cheese (Nelly) and the Psychosis are the best ones.

Yes, Ganja Baba is Sonic.
 

"HEMPEROR"

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I can say that the effects of 12-12 and 13-11 made no difference in yield that I noticed. You can always give weed another few weeks.. I believe better to have a longer dark than the light or you risk veging them... Basic horticulture guys and gals.. 12 hours dark for a few days triggers the flowering hormones faster so.... That is the cut off point 12/12 the rest of the stuff just tickles them unfortunately.

I'll let you guys believe this Bro-Science.. Me I know better unfortunately...


This 25% on a 400w grow would amount to 15 zips instead of 12... Not hard to better anyway with cultural methods..

Better to give the plants 24 hours light in the swelling phase for a few photoperiod cycles as documented by a handful of commercial guys.. With cheese... It don't herm .. Ever, so you can beast it to fuck.. Hydro or coco will allow this to maximise the yield of flowers and not un necessary primary metabolites...


Cheese just claws and crab fists late in flower.. I have picked 3-4 grams of these of my tops. Got 100 tops... Got about 300G's more Simples... Leaders per square foot and light footprint make the extra weight from experience...


The rest of the... I did this and got 600g's per is man's massaging their big egos...


mmm maybe ill switch back to 12/12 then. only 4 weeks in bloom would this be cool or would you carry on just for this round
.:tiphat: cheerz dave for your EXP/info:biggrin:
 

Mate Dave

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No worries Hemperor..

On Ic mag I see aplenty of good growers on here and plenty of outstanding cultivation and mind bending techniques... Generally the horticulture is piss poor tho..

If you went the Chelsea and were showing a garden it don't matter how is looks or tastes ext.. Your marked on Horticulture every time...


"Darling it's all in the details"
 

Ganja baba

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Never thought, Ganja Baby are you Sonic makes sense now you saying my Suicide cheese. It does look identical to the Brightside you can tell its another really old cutting probably from around the same timeframe but as stated in earlier post it may be a really old Skunk N01 from around the same time but it didnt have half the smell or strength trying to be careful dont want to come across as disrepectful as I appreciate youve done some amazing breeding but once youve grown the other one theres no mistake as its by far the smelliest plant I've ever come across. Out of the Cheesy types still around I'd say the Nl x Cheese (Nelly) and the Psychosis are the best ones.

That's cool mate , I've only smoked the bright side and you know what it's like unless grown side by side all the cheesed taste of cheese , my cut was one of the said orginal cuts from Luton goes way back , I think most of these cuts have drifted . My mate sprays his with systemic shit every other grow and his cheese had def changed lost smell and Taste and resin is dryer, bet some of us just have better less fucked with stock , I do t really care which cheese I have , I just want the best tasting as the high kicks me regardless of which cut it is apart from the diet cheese , also a long said to be orginal I got around the same time , almost identical bit sweeter but doesn't fuck you up at all , the suicide does seem the most narcotic cut your rust cheese I have tried . But I'm through with cheese I do prefer some of the funky crosses kicking around , she's a good skunk . Does the bright side breed ok . ? I have a friend that has had his cheese since 1992 he's one of them old growers , don't grow to well but his stock is real , still though bright side sounds perfect and if grown side by side and you think it's better I'll give her a bash cheers
 

Ganja baba

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mmm maybe ill switch back to 12/12 then. only 4 weeks in bloom would this be cool or would you carry on just for this round
.:tiphat: cheerz dave for your EXP/info:biggrin:

Trust me 13/12 works I am talking for years of experience , 12/12 is a guild line as most plants are not Equatorial types , just google the average day hours in the summer time in say mazar sharif , you will see upto 16 hours of light in the peak season some of the regions even minick our indoor grow environment temps and so on . This goes for sativas if you take a pure land race sativa with a 24 week flowering time and flower on 12/12 then it will take for ever and buds will be hard to finish , drop to 10 hours light 14 dark it will take any thing up to six weeks of the flowering time and give denser better bugs , so if you under stand that our plants have many variables as to how they can be grown , it's important to understand how diverse weed is and how a few changes in lighting feed environment can bring about massive changes in our plants , I would just say try it your self see what you think . But to suggest yield is less for sure on 13/12 is unfounded as grow from results . Put a six week flowering plant on 13/12 and it will flower for 8 weeks and yield a lot more and open different genetic traits that are associated with long flowering strains . My two cents . I would say that there is no harm trying it .
 

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