20 odd year old local clone only sheff Kriss Kross.
(haze x oranjebud x pre80s skunk1 x unknown)
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Does this make you... Jump jump......
Sorry, I'll get me coat.
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Does this make you... Jump jump......
Sorry, I'll get me coat.
"HEMPEROR"
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Lol your not the 1st to say that, my reply like b4 is if it doesn't make the yields jump it will bounce for sure lol, let's see but I'm told it's a stinker capable of gpw+ in 7 wks gotta be worthy of a pot
she a good 50/50 ish mix id say mate
she has much stronger stems and better structure than any diesel and has bigger yield that can hold it own weight with out flopping all over, the diesel is very present it flower formation though , the smell and taste is not what you would expect either. i get a lot of berry/ blues/livers coming through along with sour and skunk.. very nice indeed.
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NewAgeGenetics
you talk about the trc cj ?
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heath chisel mate, was a bit of a mix up going on. ive ran the true cut a few time , again another top plant, huge yeilder with good high but not quite to my tastes, she seems to have nutty red wine thing going on lol, not my cup of tea tbh,, this chisel cut however ticks all the boxes flavour included .
tru casey, had bit of pm issue at the time but still preformed well
heath chisel mate, was a bit of a mix up going on. ive ran the true cut a few time , again another top plant, huge yeilder with good high but not quite to my tastes, she seems to have nutty red wine thing going on lol, not my cup of tea tbh,, this chisel cut however ticks all the boxes flavour included .
tru casey, had bit of pm issue at the time but still preformed well
jedi5891
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I haven't read through all this thread an only just seen so I'm proberly repeating other posts, but anyhow here goes. She's a legend. The exodous psychosis cut. I've recently been gifted a couple. I've got 1 in bloom in week 6 smelling like old school skunk, it's my 1st experience with this so very excited. Has anyone on here got the Brightside/ Exo Cut? Would anyone like to do a swap for a Exodous psychosis 
cut. If you wait a couple of months I'll have some seeds from the psychosis as I've got some ugorg #1 male pollen I'm gonna cross with the psychosis. I'll include some of these with swap for the Brightside/Exo cut etc
Respect all
Peace
Namaste
cut. If you wait a couple of months I'll have some seeds from the psychosis as I've got some ugorg #1 male pollen I'm gonna cross with the psychosis. I'll include some of these with swap for the Brightside/Exo cut etcRespect all
Peace
Namaste
jedi5891
Well-known member
cut. If you wait a couple of months I'll have some seeds from the psychosis as I've got some ugorg #1 male pollen I'm gonna cross with the psychosis. I'll include some of these with swap for the Brightside/Exo cut etcRespect all
Peace
Namaste
looks like it's on me to dig it out from the woodwork. I still can't understand how everyone on here could have dumped it. Trues cut should be B's cheese. I can't see him getting it mixed up with a shitter cut.
An just to be clear,,, cuts don't change so much ,,,2 cuts from the same original mother will always be identical
An just to be clear,,, cuts don't change so much ,,,2 cuts from the same original mother will always be identical
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birdman_
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Originally Posted by "HEMPEROR" View Post
20 odd year old local clone only sheff Kriss Kross.
(haze x oranjebud x pre80s skunk1 x unknown)
View Image
Does this make you... Jump jump......
Sorry, I'll get me coat.
"Got a wear THAT JACKET backwards or it .. AINT COOL!! "............ x
Originally Posted by "HEMPEROR" View Post
20 odd year old local clone only sheff Kriss Kross.
(haze x oranjebud x pre80s skunk1 x unknown)
View Image
Does this make you... Jump jump......
Sorry, I'll get me coat.
"Got a wear THAT JACKET backwards or it .. AINT COOL!! "............ x
-tempa-
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Looks good mate how does she stack upto the other topdawg elites? for obvious reasons I don't collect cuts anymore, with exception of kriss kross which I grabbed from a mate at green spirit hydro. After my chimera rks hunt I'll be looking into 6 new topdawg strains misen as I binned all other cuts a while back apart from chiesel and shishkaberry, I think tre butter, stardawg bx and skunk OG are great pottentiale for new keepers. Watch this space fella,s
dont collect cuts anymore , you where a cut machine mate , sounds like you will be busy with the seeds and i no you have a massive collection to choose from mate ... not seen you round as much or should i say i havent been around lol .... hope alls well bro
tempa
you do have the genetic drift theory, 2 cuts from same mother kept in very different envroments over time can change/evolve to suit conditions
what cut are you after btw mate?
It's brightsides cheese I was giving out for years. Everyone got into a hoo har over what's the original cheese and people lost track in the mess of cheese clones available.
That is what I would call a single point mutation theory, something like epigenetics,,, something like the idea of huma twins look different over time and lifestyle...
It's not genetic drift as that implies copulation and not tissue culture,,,
The question of: do 2 clones from the same monther change to be 2 different inderviduals over time is,,, no..imho
That is what I would call a single point mutation theory, something like epigenetics,,, something like the idea of huma twins look different over time and lifestyle...
It's not genetic drift as that implies copulation and not tissue culture,,,
The question of: do 2 clones from the same monther change to be 2 different inderviduals over time is,,, no..imho
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birdman_
A Cheese n Chong i got Someone Revegging is The Closest to that " DEEP " Cheese Flavour of That riCk!
Tastes More Cheese than the Back2Cheese..even.Didnt Start that way
more fuely 'earth fuel' ... then Boom in flower..Major cheese alert!
The Closest X ive Come across ..... She gets on verywell with Casey ..She must do
Probably a Stronger Effect too.Hence Effect. ..not the Paranoia ...
Tastes More Cheese than the Back2Cheese..even.Didnt Start that way
more fuely 'earth fuel' ... then Boom in flower..Major cheese alert!The Closest X ive Come across ..... She gets on verywell with Casey ..She must do
Probably a Stronger Effect too.Hence Effect. ..not the Paranoia ...
Well I would say the killa queen suffered massive genetic drift and ended up quite poor.
But what is getting me is I have an original mendo haze plant that looks like 2 plants in one pot. 2/3rd of the plant is done at 50 days with small nugs super resinous, and 1/3 of the plant has way more stretch, is about 10 days behind the rest and totally different bud structure. Everyone I have shown it to thinks it's two plants until they see the single main stem. I have never ever seen anything like it.
2 completely different phenotypic expression in one plant. I can only think that the BM toxins have caused this.
Honestly,, the word "genetic drift" or simply "drift" has a definition in the principles of plant breeding, it has no reference to tissue culture. drift is a reference to the reshuffle and loss of alleles when plants breed. You must be thinking of mutation and I seriously doubt we could do that. I would argue viral or environmental pressure causing undesirable expression. But given healthy conditions all should correct itself. Mutation is a far fetch
HereIgrowagain
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Ok so maybe not linked but, I have a plant in the garden and every 3-4 years half of it becomes variegated and the other half stays fully green as normal. It grows out after 1 or 2 seasons and then keeps happening again. Is this a possible similarity to what is being discussed? Just a thought.
I'd bet money on it being something other than mutation of tissue.
First I would get rid of all non food grade plastics out of the room in fear of off gassing.ive seen grow tents sabotage a grow before now...
Fast cloning and re cloning to run out any virus or toxicity.
First I would get rid of all non food grade plastics out of the room in fear of off gassing.ive seen grow tents sabotage a grow before now...
Fast cloning and re cloning to run out any virus or toxicity.
When people talk about genetic drift, i think alot of it is down to people keeping mother plants in bad health/condition so they just arent preforming as they used to, or compared to when they first got the cut.
There is also other factors to consider such as medium, nutrients, environment and the grower, however i think keeping your mother plants in good health especially over long periods of time is the most important thing.
There is also other factors to consider such as medium, nutrients, environment and the grower, however i think keeping your mother plants in good health especially over long periods of time is the most important thing.
People who have never done any real work on the subject maybe, but for anyone who wants real reference. Here it is.
Genetic Drift also known as Drift It is a random change in gene frequency due to sampling error. Random drift is more in small population than larger. With Drift the fquency of one of the allele becomes zero and that of the other allele becomesone. So all genes become homozygous. Genetic Drift or "Drift" can only be reduced by handling larger populations. It has no reference in clone culture (Allard.99)
Point made I hope.
Genetic Drift also known as Drift It is a random change in gene frequency due to sampling error. Random drift is more in small population than larger. With Drift the fquency of one of the allele becomes zero and that of the other allele becomesone. So all genes become homozygous. Genetic Drift or "Drift" can only be reduced by handling larger populations. It has no reference in clone culture (Allard.99)
Point made I hope.
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Mechanical mixture might be of some interest on this subject, but I highly doubt the cheese has been subject to that. Mutation is even less likely. I'm betting genotype is identical on all clones from B's cheese. I guess it's either Toxicity or Viral infection. The Phenotype we all know from B's cheese clones should still be obtainable from one of B's cheese clones.. This has gota be an expression issue.. No frigging way it's coded wrong during replication
