International Clone Only cuts in the UK

[zooty]

Mites are very hard to spot. I guarantee a lot of people will have them without realizing

Don't scope big fan leaves you won't find anything on them. But look at the tiny leaves on the very newest growth is the only place I have seen them.

 

[Loc Dog]

Mites are very hard to spot. I guarantee a lot of people will have them without realizing

Don't scope big fan leaves you won't find anything on them. But look at the tiny leaves on the very newest growth is the only place I have seen them.

Mine have all been on older large leaves, that looked f-ed. Thought over fertilizing, PH, Virus, dehydration. Then cut off and looked at under scope. The first thing you will see if you have them is black specks on the bottom of leaf. Mite crap.

I have been shaving legs on scrog (removing any leaves under screen) and most leaves have no bugs. Maybe 1 in 10 of the mangy looking leaves had a couple, after pyrethrin and spinosad.

Just thinking I should look for endoscope, to check plants without removing leaves. I know my newly rooted cuts have mites, but have been waiting for them to grow before treating.

 

[zooty]

I caught the problem pretty early I noticed a huge lack of vigor and slightly yellowing tops on the host gg4 plant so I trashed it.. I saw nothing with a 30x scope so I wen't and got a 100x and bam there they were

I then stripped all the others down to practically nothing and sprayed with spinosad followed by a heat treatment with space heaters and a change of res and in just a few days I'm getting the usual explosive growth and they are praying to the light

Yesterday I freaked out when I saw a crawler with my 100x scope but then I realized I had put some predators in there. I'll be getting some swirskii mites too in a couple of weeks and that should keep things at bay till the end of flower

 

[theherbalizor]

I was gonna ask earlier is the GG4 the plant you all have in common but thought maybe it was a bit of a shot in the dark...

My issues started long before the GG4. I'm thinking sometime around getting the White, stardawg and wd40. But likely would have been before them. But I can not remember what.

What I do know, is my first plant to properly get hit was my CJ and one day she was fine, the next day dead. Wasn't to be brought back to life. After that every thing started going downhill. But not fast. Really quite slow.

 

[Mate Dave]

All you lot loosing genetics WTF are you serious.. What's with the poor culture techniques.. Have you not learned anything I have taught... Clean clean clean... Sterile and Stringent.. Separate areas.. No wonder things get lost.....

Some things need spreading again from a perfectly clean source....

Please don't none of you lot advise me ok....


Foreign cuts are bad news......

 

["HEMPEROR"]

Atleast none of ya will break the TOU trading in bugs lmao. nothing worse than someone sending cuts teaming with bugs, oh sorry unless the bugs come on fake cuts even worse. some ppl aye. thats why i loved invite only trading forums.reps on the line so ppl make sure it doesnt happen. think i chipped just at the rite time .

 

[Mate Dave]

^^ Yeah That's what I was thinking... But I don't need any of these cuts 'Hemp' from this Thread as long as I have a hole in my arse.

I have the best for my needs and am not willing to explore second hand cuttings only seed interests me now..

If all you lot loose all your genetics Then it's a good job some of us are slightly better experienced and trained so that we can re-introduce the cuts as we see fit..

Keep on looseing guys...Then we can re-stock you with the better stuff.

 

["HEMPEROR"]

yeh i get ya, i got my best strain years ago, it was fun running diff stuff for a change tho.i found one keeper in around 15 hyped up strains i ran, chiesel is a winner for me.the rest are all gone now, passed them around. think i was lucky not to get burned with these bugs. next time i do fancy a change i think ill look into my bean collection, most cuts been shared now are knackered. maybe its time for some fresh strains. who knows..........

 

[siftedunity]

This has been a ticking time bomb for a while. People pass cuts around in the uk and dont even quarentine and wonder why.

 

[Terps]

^^ Yeah That's what I was thinking... But I don't need any of these cuts 'Hemp' from this Thread as long as I have a hole in my arse.

I have the best for my needs and am not willing to explore second hand cuttings only seed interests me now..

If all you lot loose all your genetics Then it's a good job some of us are slightly better experienced and trained so that we can re-introduce the cuts as we see fit..

Keep on looseing guys...Then we can re-stock you with the better stuff..

Nice to see you have such a positive community spirit.

 

[Mate Dave]

Now't positive about threatening the future of cannabis with lousy culture and piss antics when there is a vast array of information as to the onset of fcuk ups here in the community.

How could anyone fail to see this is beyond me..

 

[Terps]

Things can obviously still spread even when taking proper precautions, i know i certainly take precautions and work cleanly when taking cuts. Im sure the other experienced growers in this thread who has been affected does too.

Why dont you try chiming in with something helpfull instead of talking a load of bollocks about how youre the best grower in the uk, all you seem to do is mug this community off. if you dont like how we do things why dont you piss off?

 

[Mate Dave]

I do piss off often.. But then I see something that really cracks me up.. I never said I was the best grower that's a bit childish. I have become humble. That's not something I am even the slightest bit interested in being the best although people do say I do it the best they seen.. It worries me these days . My gardens recently have been crap. But the meds still top shelf.. Nowt's declined but I am doing less care and maintenance. I'm not mugging the community off. The TOU breakers did that to all the growers who lost their strains. It's in the TOU for a reason I assume so Douches can't fcuk shit up for everyone.. The thread title is enough to get a ban I woulda thought back with Karma Girl and DutchGrown..


Things can't spread or begin to happen when done properly... Where did you hear that shizzle or did you just make it up now to make some of these prats feel better...

Now, the reason for the precaution is to eliminate these problems you PLEB!

 

[siftedunity]

People pass cuts in general be it on this forum or others or off the forums. Anyways what's a few broad mites between friends?

 

[Mate Dave]

Nowt friendly about getting that shit from amateur gardeners..

This is why I think it should be controlled the growing of weed and done in facilities and people should not be growing it @ home. You do not have access to the required potions to clean up the mess nor the skill set to perform as an untrained skill-less cultivator.

These PLEBS would then get more meds better meds for less and then they could sit about all day high.. Rather than struggling to grow a plant badly, then smoking it and saying "Yo Blood" I got some 'good weed'. Most fail to make ends meat when they are but mere simpletons who need to be given things and orders because of lack of intuition..

 

[Terps]

I do piss off often.. But then I see something that really cracks me up.. I never said I was the best grower that's a bit childish. I have become humble. That's not something I am even the slightest bit interested in being the best although people do say I do it the best they seen.. It worries me these days . My gardens recently have been crap. But the meds still top shelf.. Nowt's declined but I am doing less care and maintenance. I'm not mugging the community off. The TOU breakers did that to all the growers who lost their strains. It's in the TOU for a reason I assume so Douches can't fcuk shit up for everyone.. The thread title is enough to get a ban I woulda thought back with Karma Girl and DutchGrown..


Things can't spread or begin to happen when done properly... Where did you hear that shizzle or did you just make it up now to make some of these prats feel better...

Now, the reason for the precaution is to eliminate these problems you PLEB!

I bet i take the same precautions as you do unless you wear a jump suit and gas mask when you work and i've had duds happen. personally i think its some sort of pathogen causing this, if it is im not sure how one would go about preventing such a thing.
I'm sure you will have an answer as to what this problem is oh wise master knower of all "shizzle" but will keep it to yourself as we are all under you..right?

let's keep the slanders to a minimum aye seeing as we all attend canna events and i dont tend to forget people calling me a pleb.

 

[Mate Dave]

Maybe try to locate the problem.. Get some cuttings from far away from the source of the infestation either from before it was contracted or take some and treat them to some therapy. Perhaps there is a form of cannabis chalara or Duch Elm going about from the US Govnerment.. I dunno. Theres a new one killing the Aesculus currently.

A gas mask and overalls is advisable as is sending tissue samples from all the plants to the IHA for analysis..

Where better to start? You tell me as you wanted to know, and that is what I would do...

When you have studied and exhausted every protocol then we will assume it's some weird cannabis disease.. But on scientific evidence..

My apologies for calling you a pleb but it's shorter than the abbreviations.. Lower classes being the uneducated..

I don't need to do it because I was careful. I wish no contact with any of you who has the cannabis issue..

Problem is that people need training and education on how to do the bagging and tagging so as to locate the problem, isolate it and destroy it. Ic mag is not for the serious grower to learn from, he can use it as a resource. University is where the education comes into things...

 

[zooty]

Mate Dave polluting another thread with his elitist garbage thinking he's smarter than everyone else

 

[guy fawkes]

after much research i found this, i dont think its broads but their evil cousins.. cyclamen mites
https://archive.org/stream/cyclamenmitebroa301smit/cyclamenmitebroa301smit_djvu.txt

this could be the reason as they are ,much harder to kill.

 

[Mate Dave]

It's always good for a exact identification as then you can wipe it out and have nothing remaining to built up a tolerance or breed out with the diversity to deal with such issues.

The Western Flower Thrips from Manchester, they are from Cyclamen houses.

I think that we have a dirty bastard working shifts in a prop house who don't wash between shifts @ the garden centre and home growing..

Let's not Speculate tho Guys.

I will pay myself for the real Analysis of plant materials by an expert. Just for research purposes. I will pay anonymous via paypal, however I do not have the problem plants so somebody else will have to send their sick plants leaves with bugs for identification. Is this too much for any of you to do? Anyone got a macro lens to do some pics? Any real gardening happening or just the usual Hocus pocus.. Who wants to help...

Zooty