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International Clone Only cuts in the UK

theherbalizor

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Here is something to confuse matters more.

As some will know, I amongst many had a weird problem with my plants slowly dying on me. Losing all vigour. Cuts taking an age to root etc. Not a bug in sight and certainly didn't look like broad mites, but at the same time a few other people were having the same issues. Same as Greens81.

When I first had the wd40 cut it yielded amazing, 15 Oz plants. My second run with her and she hardly vegged. Needed to be put up on a pot to be the same height as the other plants. Didn't stretch and had far muted smell / tastes / resin production. And only yielded 3 oz.

I had at the time given some cuts out and one of the people I gave it to had exactly the same problems. But what he did was isolate her and just veg her under plasma for about 5 months and just tidied it here and there. Gave it no pesticide or any kind of foliar spray.

Well he now has that plant fully healthy and yielding back as it was. 15 Oz plants with the most stinky, sticky buds you have ever seen.

Certainly has me scratching my head as I was sure it's a pest or pathogen.. But who knows.
 

guy fawkes

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Here is something to confuse matters more.

As some will know, I amongst many had a weird problem with my plants slowly dying on me. Losing all vigour. Cuts taking an age to root etc. Not a bug in sight and certainly didn't look like broad mites, but at the same time a few other people were having the same issues. Same as Greens81.

When I first had the wd40 cut it yielded amazing, 15 Oz plants. My second run with her and she hardly vegged. Needed to be put up on a pot to be the same height as the other plants. Didn't stretch and had far muted smell / tastes / resin production. And only yielded 3 oz.

I had at the time given some cuts out and one of the people I gave it to had exactly the same problems. But what he did was isolate her and just veg her under plasma for about 5 months and just tidied it here and there. Gave it no pesticide or any kind of foliar spray.

Well he now has that plant fully healthy and yielding back as it was. 15 Oz plants with the most stinky, sticky buds you have ever seen.

Certainly has me scratching my head as I was sure it's a pest or pathogen.. But who knows.

this is much like my exp with my cheisel shiva cuts mate, im sure it was broad mites or very similar as i never saw any bugs even with x100 scope but after a nuked everything stuff did start to perk up though the shiva and chiesel suffered very badly and didnt produce anything like they should off, no smell , poor yeild and freaky growth and budding pattern. since i cleaned up all has been sweet.. fingers crossed.
at first i thought is was something in the water as i was at a loss to what what causing it. what ever it/they are it really fucks with plants
 

guy fawkes

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I had broadmites heat treatment and spinosad got rid of them. Crazy how much they affect the growth of the plant

The best broadmite preventative is to grow from seed and not take clones from people lol

how do you go about the heat treatment mate, isnt it bad for plants?
 

theherbalizor

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Yes, it's most perplexing isn't GF mate.

Luckily I had to rip down anyway. So pastures new and all that. But I'm super happy to know that the amazing wd40 cut is still in my area and healthy. Although the guy is getting rid of it due to its ridiculous smell. He said he'd rather grow cheese without a filter than risk running the wd40 again... Lol.
 

guy fawkes

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Yes, it's most perplexing isn't GF mate.

Luckily I had to rip down anyway. So pastures new and all that. But I'm super happy to know that the amazing wd40 cut is still in my area and healthy. Although the guy is getting rid of it due to its ridiculous smell. He said he'd rather grow cheese without a filter than risk running the wd40 again... Lol.

onwards and upwards mate, is this the 'questionable' wd40 that was going about as ive just got her back myself, loved her big time, not quite as strong as stardawg , still potent but yield and taste are top shelf indeed :) , i also have 2 nice phenos from some white x stardawg seeds i was gifted to run alongside , be interesting to see how they compare.
 

Loc Dog

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theherbalizor

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onwards and upwards mate, is this the 'questionable' wd40 that was going about as ive just got her back myself, loved her big time, not quite as strong as stardawg , still potent but yield and taste are top shelf indeed :) , i also have 2 nice phenos from some white x stardawg seeds i was gifted to run alongside , be interesting to see how they compare.

I much prefer the questionable wd40 to the stardog. I find it way more potent and so incredibly piney. Horses for course tho of course.

White X stardog should be a winner for sure,
 
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birdman_

The posts on this page from gg4 forum -

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7190714&postcount=20586

They are discussing Chitosan Oligosaccharide to stop dudding in GG4 on west coast. I have been negotiating a deal on Alibaba to get a couple of Kilos of it. Two kilos shipped to US is around 300 US dollars.

This is the page where it is discussed -

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=278565&page=1373



Chit ? Shit! ..like That :D
"is that a How a plant grows Kit Ld?! " Lol
 

mack 10

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What about fungus? Bacteria or some type of root rot.
I think it was Student Teacher who while thinking he had broads
Got his stuff lab tested. Came back with 3 diff probs.
Root rot, leaf disease and another unpronounceable
Bacterial problem. Obviously this will leave you open to bug problems/
Further disease

Im thinking this problem has been past around like a cheap suit.
For a lot longer than we all think.
 

JamieShoes

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for real man, sometimes it used to bother me that I didnt have access all the cuts like a lot of fellers... on the other hand, you dont see me tearing down my shit and nuking my whole fkn house either.. ;)
 
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guy fawkes

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What about fungus? Bacteria or some type of root rot.
I think it was Student Teacher who while thinking he had broads
Got his stuff lab tested. Came back with 3 diff probs.
Root rot, leaf disease and another unpronounceable
Bacterial problem. Obviously this will leave you open to bug problems/
Further disease

Im thinking this problem has been past around like a cheap suit.
For a lot longer than we all think.

i know ive not seen anything like it in all my years of growing mate, i jinxed things when i said things are going to well,

my dayreaker cuts and the kk stardawg are showing a few defomed pale new new shoots, all the seed plants are immaculate though, i took cuts from dw and kk and scrapped the mothers, treated them with various chems and neem then vegged them up , both grew well till week 4-5 of veg.. same time my last grow went south really quick.. somethings not right here like ..

edit .. just been and gave everything a good neeming, 10ml per/l with a wetting agent , see what that dose ..
 
Z

zooty

I've also got some Amblyseius cucumeris predator mites to keep away the broads as I do not want to spray in flower. 50,000 for £20 and I'll keep using them as a preventative measure
 

guy fawkes

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The posts on this page from gg4 forum -

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7190714&postcount=20586

They are discussing Chitosan Oligosaccharide to stop dudding in GG4 on west coast. I have been negotiating a deal on Alibaba to get a couple of Kilos of it. Two kilos shipped to US is around 300 US dollars.

This is the page where it is discussed -

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=278565&page=1373

id like to know whats causing the dudding in the first place though mate, i know folk who have mothers of gg4 from cuts i gave them ages ago that are still going strong but mine freaked out a few grows back , still no idea why.
 

JamieShoes

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I was gonna ask earlier is the GG4 the plant you all have in common but thought maybe it was a bit of a shot in the dark...
 

guy fawkes

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I was gonna ask earlier is the GG4 the plant you all have in common but thought maybe it was a bit of a shot in the dark...

possibe mate ..she been through my garden,and i know she has been wide spread since . was a great strain for a few crops then freaked out. several other have since followed suit, id not seen any strain do this in my garden ever. and ive really made a mess of thing at time but still nothing like this
 

JamieShoes

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what I was thinking was of those pics I saw of some lads selling some well sad looking cuts at some fair in the US for a 1000 bucks and the huge demand in the US means shes been through every garden in town... just wonder how much of other peoples bad practices shes picked up before making her journey in this direction... not saying coz I dont know, but I would imagine the UK is sharing a very limited source? (like everyones got the same one from point of entry maybe?).. I dunno.. just speculating :)
 

Loc Dog

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id like to know whats causing the dudding in the first place though mate, i know folk who have mothers of gg4 from cuts i gave them ages ago that are still going strong but mine freaked out a few grows back , still no idea why.

I was sure I had dudding or virus, and had mites and thrips. I am sure you are using microscope on lame leaves. Mine are all starting to kick butt, after a veg that was twice as long as usual.

I have a small bag of Chitosan Oligosaccharide now, will use today. It is supposed to be great even if plants are not sick. In small quantities, it is expensive, but likely worth it.

Chitosan Oligosaccharide is tens times more potent than plain old Chitosan. Even better is Chitosan Oligosaccharide Lactate, but really expensive, and needs to be sourced from chemical company.
 
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