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Inspired by Haze
- Thread starter Budz Lightyear
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ramse
Well-known member
Well... if you put it that way...
for Skunk. the Afghans, Colombians and Mexicans were created by others... merely hybridizing their work
Perhaps we should understand or at least agree on what plant breeding is.
exactly ,,credit were due for all ,,, nevillers selections and crosses are exactly that no more no less ,,there are not strains ,,,the creators of the strains he aquired to select from surely would be held in even higher esteem by a breeding fan ?..maybe i dont understand breeding as well as i think i do
Budz Lightyear
Member
Who is the artist: The painter or the person that created the paint?
depends how you define art i guess
Is this some sort of a spun troll thread cause I’m down for the partay
Comparing SD to mids? How many wippits have you done today?
ethos seeds are created in unknown closet and tent growers homes. Those are the unknowns you asked about
Then there are all the Spanish growers who were and still are contracted by big seed companies to produce kilos of seeds. They also fit the bill.
Let’s thank all the ancestral families that have selected, bred and shared their previous heirlooms dating back dozens of generations. They too are unknown and deserve gratitude and thanks
Lastly, Noah and every other 8-10,000 year worldwide flood event results in the bottle necking of genes.
That includes cannabis, animals and yes even us humans.
Things like environment, radiation altering genes and diet all result in the diversification of genes and altering of DNA.
Cool thread
Comparing SD to mids? How many wippits have you done today?
ethos seeds are created in unknown closet and tent growers homes. Those are the unknowns you asked about
Then there are all the Spanish growers who were and still are contracted by big seed companies to produce kilos of seeds. They also fit the bill.
Let’s thank all the ancestral families that have selected, bred and shared their previous heirlooms dating back dozens of generations. They too are unknown and deserve gratitude and thanks
Lastly, Noah and every other 8-10,000 year worldwide flood event results in the bottle necking of genes.
That includes cannabis, animals and yes even us humans.
Things like environment, radiation altering genes and diet all result in the diversification of genes and altering of DNA.
Cool thread
TheDarkStorm
Well-known member
There are quite afew made from pure landraces or heirlooms.....but they didnt get fancy names.....thai x oaxaca.....oaxaca/oaxacaA x oaxaca 8.5 ...afew different ones with a lumbo...swthai x thai78...thai78/mm/mmAxmmB/mmA.......oax1f3 x oaxA....uz x af80.....pak80 x af80...mm/mm/mmA x mm/thiaA......infact there is a huge long list.
perhaps abit different to some of those famous strains that were made by accident or those purposely made with other strains and that hidden with a fabricated history an a new name...or those made from import bag seed that couldn't be 100% verifiyed...
Sam the Skunkman, and Tom Hill come to mind as breeders who passed lots of decent haze seeds.
X-18, T Haze x Skunk #1, Original Haze x Skunk #1, and more I can't remember.
Often Sam is bashed for letting the road kill skunk pass, but I wonder who else keeps that vintage stock.
They not talking.
There are many others, un named, who have made important haze contributions, thinking the uptown haze, among others.
I hold a thunk cut ten years plus in a micro environment, speaks volumes to the quality of the genetics to keep a plant that long.
Cheers.
X-18, T Haze x Skunk #1, Original Haze x Skunk #1, and more I can't remember.
Often Sam is bashed for letting the road kill skunk pass, but I wonder who else keeps that vintage stock.
They not talking.
There are many others, un named, who have made important haze contributions, thinking the uptown haze, among others.
I hold a thunk cut ten years plus in a micro environment, speaks volumes to the quality of the genetics to keep a plant that long.
Cheers.
Budz Lightyear
Member
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like i said credit were due for all always ,,a strain is a strain and crosses are crosses ,,,as to speculation on the strains being from bagseed ive said same thing myself but that another spin ,, my post was about breeding ,,strains any strains that nev or anyone else creates should be credited to the creator and crosses are not the same thing
Budz Lightyear
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LOL, miiiids!!!
You're all worng. Everyone knows Berner and Jungle boys invented good weed and before that it was all mids,. If you think haze is good then you need to try some proper weed, like, peanut-berry-sherb-Macalato-cake. Best strain ever. Hightimes said so on insta.
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LOL, miiiids!!!
You're all worng. Everyone knows Berner and Jungle boys invented good weed and before that it was all mids,. If you think haze is good then you need to try some proper weed, like, peanut-berry-sherb-Macalato-cake. Best strain ever. Hightimes said so on insta.
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Budz Lightyear
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ArtOfSelection
Active member
DJ short imo for the best strain/line and maybe.... best breeder also ................the most successful/influential strain/line in cannabis history is blueberry,..bred from landraces over decades ........truly his own creation, ...a unique revered creation
I'm pretty sure theres absolutely no-way this can/will cause any sort of conflict or division.. So, with that being said:
Who is the single best breeder ever?
Who has made the sole biggest contribution to cannabis genetics?
And what is unequivocally, without doubt the single best strain of all time?
Go.
i think my favorite breeder would be my mate moon unit who is responsible for zoidfuel ,
an australian variety made solely from landrace strains , which isnt done much other than by a few breeders ,
takes some fine selection etc to accomplish something decent , so yea he gets my vote there ...
biggest contribution has to go to sam skunkman for taking all his and others stuff to holland all those years ago,
and revolutionizing the cannabis seed industry , bloody fine effort that needs some applause at the very least ..
and best strain of all time has to go to thai ,
the stuff they made thai sticks from ,
my very favorite in fact wasnt on the bamboo sticks but loose golden buds,
aka golden thai ,
im 100% sure it would still be very very popular today if it was around and despite all the new stuff with much higher thc%...
hard to only chooose 1 of all those things budz , but thats what i got for ya...
Budz Lightyear
Member
I got put off last time I looked at old world. They were selling packs of a line (cant remember which) that they openly advertised as the "seeds showed 25% of phenos with desirable traits in testing"..
25%... So 75% of the 000's of those beans are boof, yet you're you're still selling them, just labelled as "breeder packs".
Pass.
ArtOfSelection
Active member
I got put off last time I looked at old world. They were selling packs of a line (cant remember which) that they openly advertised as the "seeds showed 25% of phenos with desirable traits in testing"..
25%... So 75% of the 000's of those beans are boof, yet you're you're still selling them, just labelled as "breeder packs".
Pass.
id say 25% is a over statement........10% from my experience, 10 females 10fems/20regs to find 1 keeper and even then, might need 20 females 20fems/40regs.... that's why so many people f2 them, and grow out decent numbers ....blueberry is.often much better in hybrids ,like bluedream for eg
Budz Lightyear
Member
I think this was already an F3 or F4 and they werent even talking about a "keeper", just different "desirable traits" showing up in 25%... Not necessarily desirable traits all in the same plant, lol.. To me it just sounded like a line that hadnt worked or needed more work, but the price was ridiculous. I was just a bit shocked they released it tbh.
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Benny106
Masonic smoker is the goat
Sam, Nevil, but also a lot of people like Yo Sammy, or Kanga, or many others whose name I don't know, don't remember or don't want to say, each of them is (or has been) a great breeder, from they must try to understand the teachings to grow their varieties and to create my own...
A person once told me: there is powerful weed and good weed, with a lot of work you can make powerful weed, at which point put your heart into it and try to create good weed ....
This is my humble point of view.
A person once told me: there is powerful weed and good weed, with a lot of work you can make powerful weed, at which point put your heart into it and try to create good weed ....
This is my humble point of view.
