Inspired by Haze

[Benny106]

If it ain't Tropicana cookies it's mids

 

[star crash]

So how many of you actually smoked the chocolate Thai aka Buddha Thai that was on the East Coast in the early 1980s ? I did a lot & it came in kilogram vac sealed packages

 

[Chi13]

I'm pretty sure theres absolutely no-way this can/will cause any sort of conflict or division.. So, with that being said:
Who is the single best breeder ever?
Who has made the sole biggest contribution to cannabis genetics?
And what is unequivocally, without doubt the single best strain of all time?
Go.

There isn't a best single breeder. It depends what you like. I think the best breeders were from the traditional ganja cultures in SE Asia in particular, but also Africa and S.America who selected over generations. Despite modern seed banks, I always seem to prefer landrace, Thai, Laos, traditional hashes like Leb Blonde. Real magic lies in longer flowering sativa's and they are mostly not improved by hybridising imo.
I haven't tried enough different genetics but the biggest contribution at present I think is Angus from TRSC as he is trying to preserve these genetics and understands their importance.
Best strain of all time is Thai Stick.

There are lots of modern breeders who I admire. DJ Shorts has a great attitude to the plant, but I don't always like what he does. Sam and Nevil are legends. Shanti seems a good guy. I like Dubi for the fact that in the days of dwindling need for sativa's he kept working with them.
I admire some of the Aussie breeders like Kangativa, moonunit, Wal, and SSS for their contributions and generosity.

 

[Budz Lightyear]

Broken your own single breeder rule.

(Berner isn't a breeder. He actually thought "f1" was the name of a strain. As in he said the Durban Poison f1 in gsc was Durban poison x "f1").

 

[Budz Lightyear]

Masonic smoker is the goat

Is that the guy who started the whole thing of calling strains "strands"?
I'm pretty sure that's the guy.

 

[ArtOfSelection]

Not exactly cost-effective is it ............a good sweet high yielding blueberry can usually be found in 20 females in most lines ,DP,stag,DJ,... but there still no guarantee ...some people have never had a good blueberry ............allot of aficionados don't want the line inbreeding,, due to losing pheno expression,..there is a very sought after blueberry sativa ..grapey terps,, vanilla ..chocolate .. that's its uniqueness really

most influence neville/sam

best single strain creator ...DJ short blueberry

best breeder nev/DJ,simon/sam

 

[Budz Lightyear]

Not exactly cost-effective is it ............a good sweet high yielding blueberry can usually be found in 20 females in most lines ,DP,stag,DJ,... but there still no guarantee ...some people have never had a good blueberry ............allot of aficionados don't want the line inbreeding,, due to losing pheno expression,.

I just feel if you're selling a line then the dominant pheno from those beans is the representative pheno of the cross.
It sounds like really you're be looking for outliers or at best very recessive phenos in those beans. It just doesnt seem like good methodology to me to look for "keepers" in recessive genes if you're buying beans at high prices. The dominant pheno should be whats up for consideration as keeping or not.
Ouliers, like Exodus Cheese, Amnesia core etc etc are not the representative phenos of the cross/strain they originate from (SK1 & SSH). But the representative pheno of that strain - the dominant pheno within that cross - still expresses more than one desirable trait (taste, yield, vigour etc) and carries the name (the outlier phenos that gained cult status also express more than one desirable trait ie taste, yield, vigour etc etc but carry their own name).
Correct me if I'm wrong though, its just what I think.

 

[Benny106]

We need more cookie / og hybrids there simply isn't enough.

 

[star crash]

Lol

 

[harvestreaper]

So how many of you actually smoked the chocolate Thai aka Buddha Thai that was on the East Coast in the early 1980s ? I did a lot & it came in kilogram vac sealed packages

and how did it stack up against your best today ?

 

[star crash]

It definitely stacks up really well the shit was unbelievably strong but it was narcotic it had a wide range of colors from Golden to brown delicious taste in aromas some muskiness…It was quite easy to find stray seeds as well..at the time We just threw all those seeds away can you believe it

 

[harvestreaper]

It definitely stacks up really well the shit was unbelievably strong but it was narcotic it had a wide range of colors from Golden to brown delicious taste in aromas some muskiness…It was quite easy to find stray seeds as well..at the time We just threw all those seeds away can you believe it

interesting stuff,,i had thai here in uk and holland in 80s some of the dutch stuff i liked but the stuff that came to uk never used to ring my bell trancey but boring and like lemon tea type flavours ,,and yes i can believe you threw all the seeds away lol if i sat an thought of all the irreplacale genetics ive lost over the years id just be a mumbling crying wreck lol thanks for the info

 

[ArtOfSelection]

I just feel if you're selling a line then the dominant pheno from those beans is the representative pheno of the cross.
It sounds like really you're be looking for outliers or at best very recessive phenos in those beans. It just doesnt seem like good methodology to me to look for "keepers" in recessive genes if you're buying beans at high prices. The dominant pheno should be whats up for consideration as keeping or not.
Ouliers, like Exodus Cheese, Amnesia core etc etc are not the representative phenos of the cross/strain they originate from (SK1 & SSH). But the representative pheno of that strain - the dominant pheno within that cross - still expresses more than one desirable trait (taste, yield, vigour etc) and carries the name (the outlier phenos that gained cult status also express more than one desirable trait ie taste, yield, vigour etc etc but carry their own name).
Correct me if I'm wrong though, its just what I think.

Representative pheno's in diverse poly hybrids are not in the singular .. could be 1 of 20 pheno's that show up regular ,.. all slightly differing variants of the plants in its lineage ............1 in 20 hit rate for that perfect expression .....is different to say a 1 in a 1000 plant .. which id call a outier ........either way,, BB is a pain in the ass to get a good pheno of

 

[MAHA KALA]

We need more cookie / og hybrids there simply isn't enough.

you are right, it is never boring

but when you cross it with afghanhaze or skunkhaze, you can call it a haze. so you have cookies in catalogue, but also you are offering haze this naming is very practical.

 

[rolandomota]

I dont like the high blueberry is bred for it is not the best strain ever no way