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Got danged gay frogs making weird hot dog sandwich eating contests look bad. We are hip to their shit mannnnnnnnn. #downwithtubularmeat #upwiththelunchmeatsheet.
 

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https://www.infowars.com/supreme-court-allows-remington-to-be-held-liable-for-sandy-hook-shooting/


Supreme Court Allows Remington to be Held Liable for Sandy Hook Shooting

Second Amendment hangs in the balance

Adan Salazar | Infowars.com - November 12, 2019 116 Comments





The US Supreme Court is allowing a lawsuit against Remington Firearms to go forward, a move which may hold the gun manufacturer legally liable for the Sandy Hook school shooting.
On Tuesday, the highest court in the US refused to halt the lawsuit filed by parents of slain students against Remington Arms Co., which alleges the company promoted their Bushmaster AR-15 rifle “for use in assaults against human beings.”
Remington lawyers argued a 2005 law protected the company and “firearms manufacturers from being held liable for crimes committed by gun purchasers,” according to USA Today.
This “is exactly the kind of case arising from a criminal’s misuse of a firearm that ‘may not be brought in any federal or state court,'” Remington lawyer Scott Keller argued.
“Congress enacted the (law) to ensure that firearms—so central to American society that the founders safeguarded their ownership and use in the Bill of Rights — would be regulated only through the democratic process rather than the vagaries of litigation,” Remington lawyers wrote in a statement to the Supreme Court.
But lawyers for the families claim the Sandy Hook case qualifies for a marketing exception in the law because of a Remington ad which “continued to exploit the fantasy of an all-conquering lone gunman, proclaiming: ‘Forces of opposition, bow down. You are single-handedly outnumbered.'”
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Remington lawyers asked for the Supreme Court to step in after a 4-3 ruling in March by the Connecticut Supreme Court allowed the plaintiffs’ case to go forward.
In that case, Connecticut Justice Richard Palmer’s majority decision stated Remington’s ad “violated CUTPA (Connecticut Unfair Trade Practices Act) by marketing the XM15- E2S to civilians for criminal purposes, and that those wrongful marketing tactics caused or contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.”
The law firm representing the Sandy Hook families is also going after Infowars and Alex Jones, putting the First Amendment in as much danger as the Second.
Alex Jones breaks down the Supreme Court’s decision on the Tuesday edition of Infowars Live:
 

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The domestic firearms industry feeds on your fear, and the hate it spawns.
They don’t give a shit about the 2nd amendment, they care about making as much money as possible selling firearms. It’s the American Way, after all.

Listening to Alex Jones breaking down ought to be entertaining!

First Amendment: inciting to riot, promoting violence and/or the breakdown of civil society are not ‘protected speech’, Citizens United be damned. You agreeing with the inflammation doesn’t make it a free-speech issue.
 
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While I don't buy into whatever war on liberty Jones will yell about, philosophically I kind of disagree with the court decision. It's a bit of a tricky argument as guns are designed to kill shit, but I dont really see it a whole lot differently than any other product being misused. The company that makes spray paint isn't responsible for people huffing it, kitchenaid isn't responsible for someone turning a rice cooker into a bomb. To bring it back to weed, glass blowers were not responsible for what gets smoked out of their pipes. Guns are sold to hunt, shoot targets, defend ones home, etc. Murder is a misuse of the object, though I will certainly concede it is sort of made for that task. I dont think a whole lot of folks are hitting a giant 5 ft bong for their tobacco needs, but it doesnt change that as being the intended purpose. Defining intended purpose can wind up in the realm of absurdity, but if you keep some sort of bound on it, I think it works reasonably well.

All that said, I think the gun companies and NRA are assholes and feed people fear to drive profit. Fuck em.
 

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While I don't buy into whatever war on liberty Jones will yell about, philosophically I kind of disagree with the court decision. It's a bit of a tricky argument as guns are designed to kill shit, but I dont really see it a whole lot differently than any other product being misused. The company that makes spray paint isn't responsible for people huffing it, kitchenaid isn't responsible for someone turning a rice cooker into a bomb. To bring it back to weed, glass blowers were not responsible for what gets smoked out of their pipes. Guns are sold to hunt, shoot targets, defend ones home, etc. Murder is a misuse of the object, though I will certainly concede it is sort of made for that task. I dont think a whole lot of folks are hitting a giant 5 ft bong for their tobacco needs, but it doesnt change that as being the intended purpose. Defining intended purpose can wind up in the realm of absurdity, but if you keep some sort of bound on it, I think it works reasonably well.

All that said, I think the gun companies and NRA are assholes and feed people fear to drive profit. Fuck em.
Do you know where I can get my hands on some C4? That stuff is cool.

Commit a crime (any crime) using a firearm and it should be the death penalty. Post haste. Irrevocably. Non pardonable. No commutations. But that's just me.
 
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Welp...are you in the demolition or pyrotechnic field? They use c4 for it's intended purpose (I guess). Blowing up shit for fun is not the intended use. If some demolition/pyrotechnics guy gets their hands on it and then throws it in a bonfire, well that isn't c4 LLC's fault.

Edit: also...making a point about the companies that produce stuff. Not people using the item they produce to go forth and do harm.
 

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While I don't buy into whatever war on liberty Jones will yell about, philosophically I kind of disagree with the court decision. It's a bit of a tricky argument as guns are designed to kill shit, but I dont really see it a whole lot differently than any other product being misused. The company that makes spray paint isn't responsible for people huffing it, kitchenaid isn't responsible for someone turning a rice cooker into a bomb. To bring it back to weed, glass blowers were not responsible for what gets smoked out of their pipes. Guns are sold to hunt, shoot targets, defend ones home, etc. Murder is a misuse of the object, though I will certainly concede it is sort of made for that task. I dont think a whole lot of folks are hitting a giant 5 ft bong for their tobacco needs, but it doesnt change that as being the intended purpose. Defining intended purpose can wind up in the realm of absurdity, but if you keep some sort of bound on it, I think it works reasonably well.

All that said, I think the gun companies and NRA are assholes and feed people fear to drive profit. Fuck em.

I don't think this is necessarily true. I remember reading a story about a gas can company being sued for a fire caused by someone using their gas cans. I think, while using said can to pour gas onto a fire. That's not the intended use. They ended up losing millions. After that lawsuit, gas cans started coming with really annoying air lock dispenser nozzles.

Actually, I went to find the story. This is the company, but not the same article I read years ago.

Why the Largest Maker of Portable Gas Cans is Going Out of Business

https://stateimpact.npr.org/oklahoma/2012/07/09/why-the-largest-maker-of-portable-gas-cans-is-going-out-of-business/

Consumers have accused the company of making faulty cans that explode when used to pour gasoline onto fires.
Blitz says its cans carry warnings that say you should never use gasoline to start or accelerate a fire.


They even sued Walmart for selling them.

Man sues Walmart over gas-can blast

https://www.flynnfirm.com/man-sues-walmart-gas-can-blast/

Walmart was named as a defendant in some of the gas can suits. In 2013, the retail giant agreed to chip in $25 million to resolve the litigation, with Blitz paying another $136 million toward the settlement.
 

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Guns are sold to kill.If you just want to target practice, use a rock.


Manufacturers don’t get sued when their products work for the intended purpose. The get sued when they fail.
Suing the tobacco companies was a breakthrough.
 

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I don't think this is necessarily true. I remember reading a story about a gas can company being sued for a fire caused by someone using their gas cans. I think, while using said can to pour gas onto a fire. That's not the intended use. They ended up losing millions. After that lawsuit, gas cans started coming with really annoying air lock dispenser nozzles.

Actually, I went to find the story. This is the company, but not the same article I read years ago.

Why the Largest Maker of Portable Gas Cans is Going Out of Business

https://stateimpact.npr.org/oklahoma/2012/07/09/why-the-largest-maker-of-portable-gas-cans-is-going-out-of-business/

They even sued Walmart for selling them.

Man sues Walmart over gas-can blast

https://www.flynnfirm.com/man-sues-walmart-gas-can-blast/
This is IMO stupid: like suing McDonalds for serving coffee too hot to pour on your dick while you’re driving...now we have the world’s shittiest and least useful gas cans...and McDonalds still sells coffee.

Guns that are effective at shooting and killing are not DEfective: that AD, OTOH, exhorts angry citizens to take up The Bushmaster against whatever “opposition” the buyer chooses - using the ability to change caliber as part of *the purchaser’s* effectiveness in “dealing with” their ‘chosen opposition’.

That is incitement: you don’t need to read between many lines to see that the user wants EXACTLY what they’re being offered - a general anti-PERSONNEL weapon. They NEED to be fucking responsible for the manipulative and antisocial sales pitch.

“But it’s a *GUN* - it’s *SUPPOSED* to kill (or at least wound)”

Yeah...but YOU aren’t: gunning down people you don’t like is gonna put YOU in the crosshairs.

@audiohi: not ‘aimed’ at you.... :tiphat:
 
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Good points all around dudes. I still hold my philosophical ground, gotta concede in the real world though. WB makes a good point about the ad. Going back to the tobacco water pipes, well chong did wind up in the pokey, and thinking back to that time, how the products were marketed did wind up being key. It was the days of getting kicked out of head shops for calling them bongs.
 

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This is IMO stupid: like suing McDonalds for serving coffee too hot to pour on your dick while you’re driving...now we have the world’s shittiest and least useful gas cans...and McDonalds still sells coffee.

Guns that are effective at shooting and killing are not DEfective: that AD, OTOH, exhorts angry citizens to take up The Bushmaster against whatever “opposition” the buyer chooses - using the ability to change caliber as part of *the purchaser’s* effectiveness in “dealing with” their ‘chosen opposition’.

That is incitement: you don’t need to read between many lines to see that the user wants EXACTLY what they’re being offered - a general anti-PERSONNEL weapon. They NEED to be fucking responsible for the manipulative and antisocial sales pitch.

“But it’s a *GUN* - it’s *SUPPOSED* to kill (or at least wound)”

Yeah...but YOU aren’t: gunning down people you don’t like is gonna put YOU in the crosshairs.

@audiohi: not ‘aimed’ at you.... :tiphat:
They sell coffee but they cut out the spoons.
 

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I certainly wasn't defending those stupid new gas cans. Or, the ability for a company to be sued for $150m due to how someone used their product.

I hope it didn't come off that way!

I wonder if that person who won that suit (by burning themself with a gas can) uses guns?
 

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There's a documentary from 2011 titled "Hot Coffee" that's an interesting look at tort reform. Recommended viewing.
 

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https://www.infowars.com/kentucky-governor-holds-press-conference-on-election-fraud/


Kentucky Governor Holds Press Conference on Election Fraud

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Millie Weaver | Infowars.com - November 13, 2019 3 Comments
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Governor Matt Bevin is attending a press conference covering voter fraud in Frankfurt, Kentucky, Wednesday afternoon where new evidence is expected to be revealed.

Earlier today, Bevin said people who are interested in the “integrity” of elections should attend the event.

Furthermore, Citizens for Election Integrity (CFEI) is scheduled to present evidence of “polling irregularities” and “electronic vote manipulation” during the conference at the state capitol.
 

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https://www.infowars.com/kentucky-governor-holds-press-conference-on-election-fraud/


Kentucky Governor Holds Press Conference on Election Fraud

Governor Matt Bevin is attending a press conference covering voter fraud in Frankfurt, Kentucky, Wednesday afternoon where new evidence is expected to be revealed.

Earlier today, Bevin said people who are interested in the “integrity” of elections should attend the event.

Furthermore, Citizens for Election Integrity (CFEI) is scheduled to present evidence of “polling irregularities” and “electronic vote manipulation” during the conference at the state capitol.

Lol. It's Frankfort, Kentucky. infowars accuracy right there.

You let us know how it goes, though.
 

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For more info on Braidy industries...

Kentucky plans to fight judge's order to release records on Braidy industries investors
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2019/11/13/kentucky-plans-fight-releasing-records-braidy-industries/2583585001/

Franklin Circuit Judge Phillip Shepherd issued a decision Tuesday ordering the Kentucky Cabinet for Economic Development to release to The Courier Journal four documents that name certain investors in Braidy, including a stock purchase agreement and investor's rights agreement.

“In light of recent developments in which Braidy has been reported to have negotiated additional capital investments from Russian investors, the taxpayers of Kentucky have a heightened interest in public disclosure, and a legitimate need to confirm the expectation that the rights of the public have been adequately protected by the Cabinet,” Shepherd said in the order.

This is an apparent reference to the announcement earlier this year that United Co. Rusal, a Russian aluminum company, had decided to invest $200 million in return for a 40% stake in the roughly $1.7 billion aluminum rolling mill Braidy is working to build in Eastern Kentucky.
 
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