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CaptainDankness

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Go back and read everything you have to say. In this thread and others.


Look at how you present yourself. Already today you have talked about drugging and raping your wife and made derogatory remarks about gays and wine.


Lol, you take everything so seriously, it's not rape if she's willing. And the roofy thing was just a hilarious conversation, because I made a joke about it.



I've never cheated on my wife and we've been happily married for 10 years and yeah, if I was that bad she probably would have left me. I also don't even have a sister so I couldn't have, literally fucked my sister it's just hillbilly humor. Lol, I never fucked a sheep either but the way that one was looking at me.... LMAO
 
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No. We've made it to the top of the heap because our ancestors were smart enough to use violence better than all the other animals, despite being much less suited to it physically.

We would be some other species by the time violence has been bred out and by then we wouldn't be equipped to survive in the real world, only the imaginary utopian you dream of.

Don't you think the earth is a flat disk?
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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In this day and age - we don't really find ourselves in competition with any animals - most all of the animals I see and eat are domesticated - bar a few birds - and the odd fox - so there is no need for violence as protection nor to gain foodstuff's -

I am sure we could all agree that without violence humans would still be humans - and that we would not be another species - and if this non-violent change were to occur throughout all humanity at the same time - we would have no need to worry about others bringing violence upon us - obviously you seem to find it an asset - and I find it to be a curse - so we can agree to disagree.


Don't you just love the diversity of opinion here?

No. We've made it to the top of the heap because our ancestors were smart enough to use violence better than all the other animals, despite being much less suited to it physically.

We would be some other species by the time violence has been bred out and by then we wouldn't be equipped to survive in the real world, only the imaginary utopian you dream of.
 

Mr. J

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In this day and age - we don't really find ourselves in competition with any animals - most all of the animals I see and eat are domesticated - bar a few birds - and the odd fox - so there is no need for violence as protection nor to gain foodstuff's -

I am sure we could all agree that without violence humans would still be humans - and that we would not be another species - and if this non-violent change were to occur throughout all humanity at the same time - we would have no need to worry about others bringing violence upon us - obviously you seem to find it an asset - and I find it to be a curse - so we can agree to disagree.


Don't you just love the diversity of opinion here?
Sure I would agree that in a perfect Utopia where nobody had the capacity for violence, we'd probably all get along.

Put those people in the real world where bears and wolves and shit like that exist, they'd die out real quick.

We would have never even evolved the brains that we have that enable us to even talk about a concept like a non violent world. Commiting violence against animals and eating them made that possible.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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I am well aware of how we got here - and the mental and physical tools needed to accomplish this - but what about the future? - if we are to actually evolve collectively as a species - and thrive beyond murdering and maiming each other on such a frequent and constant basis - which today seems to hold us back and fractionate society into various tribal like groups that are constantly in conflict with one another - there must be some way to accomplish a permanent non-violent human race - if we are to secure any sort of permanent peaceful future for ourselves -


Most of us are not out there in the woods with bears and wolves as some threat these days - last time I saw either was in a zoo - so how does humankind actually evolve to shake off the shackles of our very violent past? - certainly not by making the future even more violent - and celebrating our violent tendencies - which most all of us still have - but to what use? - other than to begat more violence - as it looks like in todays world.

Sure I would agree that in a perfect Utopia where nobody had the capacity for violence, we'd probably all get along.

Put those people in the real world where bears and wolves and shit like that exist, they'd die out real quick.

We would have never even evolved the brains that we have that enable us to even talk about a concept like a non violent world. Commiting violence against animals and eating them made that possible.
 

Mr. J

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I am well aware of how we got here - and the mental and physical tools needed to accomplish this - but what about the future? - if we are to actually evolve collectively as a species - and thrive beyond murdering and maiming each other on such a frequent and constant basis - which today seems to hold us back and fractionate society into various tribal like groups that are constantly in conflict with one another - there must be some way to accomplish a permanent non-violent human race - if we are to secure any sort of permanent peaceful future for ourselves -

Most of us are not out there in the woods with bears and wolves as some threat these days - last time I saw either was in a zoo - so how does humankind actually evolve to shake off the shackles of our very violent past? - certainly not by making the future even more violent - and celebrating our violent tendencies - which most all of us still have - but to what use? - other than to begat more violence - as it looks like in todays world.
I don't have the answer to that one, man. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive to be less violent with each other, I just think that violence is a natural thing in the real world.

By real world I mean the natural world. Sure, most of us don't actually live in nature anymore, but that new world is artificial and fragile. It doesn't take much to break civilization and make people revert to their natural survival instincts, and that always involves violence.

Unless we can maintain a technological Utopia where we are completely insulated from the rest of the world then it will never be permanent.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Alas - it is a question that has plagued me throughout my life - particularly when I have been a witness to senseless blood-letting - and all the physical and emotional trauma that brings forth - which is often passed down thru generations - creating feuds and biases - that never seem to go away -

Perhaps the study of the physical brain chemistry can give us some answers - and possibly even a solution?


From what little I have studied upon this subject - it does open up a pandora's box of potentially human race saving possibilities -

Recently I have been studying 'The Supreme Warrior Gene' - which apparently makes people more aggressive than others if they have it - so perhaps somehow our futures could be far less chaotic with some minor adjustment - to eradicate the need or want of blood-letting of our human brother's and sisters - which could lead to some sort of peaceful transition - an evolution of sorts - from the bloody tribal war-like stage - to the age of everlasting peace and tranquillity of humankind....



I don't have the answer to that one, man. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive to be less violent with each other, I just think that violence is a natural thing in the real world.

By real world I mean the natural world. Sure, most of us don't actually live in nature anymore, but that new world is artificial and fragile. It doesn't take much to break civilization and make people revert to their natural survival instincts, and that always involves violence.

Unless we can maintain a technological Utopia where we are completely insulated from the rest of the world then it will never be permanent.
 

White Beard

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Violence isn't taught. It's a natural instinct programmed into us by billions of years of evolution. The only reason you would think so is because you live in a soft pampered world. You wouldn't exist if your ancestors weren't violent because they'd have been eaten by a bear or starved to death.
If that were true we would never have managed to build communities, we’d just have predator clubs & prey...strength and ruthlessness far precede any sort of uneasy truce between predators.

We could even say that Magna Carta represents the first real detente between apex predators, so not so surprising governments end up being run by apex predators...and eventually decide to stop KEEPING their flocks AND JUST EAT THEM.

Which leads us to the Quisling principle: you can’t pretend you’re a predator and get away with it...”I like you, Sully - I’ll kill you last”. Supporting predators in hopes there’s more leavings for *you* is a jackal’s perspective.

Violence is most definitely programmed into us, but “billions of years of evolution” have NOT made us immune to violence itself as a real-time programming factor. It’s most definitely taught, every day in a thousand ways, in every interaction, as children watch the grown-ups around them and develop their survival skills, and test them out on each other. Ignoring this is one of the things that blind us to so much of life.

People are born equally with an instinct for sympathy and compassion, with the capacity for kindness and affection and co-operation. There’s much new data coming out of the research being done on sports-related brain injury and traumatic brain injury in our vets that is helping us understand how this stuff actually affects behavior, as opposed to the musings of “Dr Reddit” or whoever.

We are not just animals, but we *ARE* mammals, and as mammals were not much different from any other crowded and desperate group of mammals if they’re scared...hungry...receiving random shocks on the regular...which is to say we are largely insanely self-destructive, and become moreso daily. Not a critical mass of us, yet, or the violence would have burned itself out by now, but the frogs in the beaker are done: if we’re waiting for the frogs to jump OUT, they can’t, they’re already dead.

No. That was a joke.

So very hard to tell with you...it’s not a joke if you’re the only one who thinks you’re joking...and if that’s your main schtick
 

Mr. J

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If that were true we would never have managed to build communities, we’d just have predator clubs & prey...strength and ruthlessness far precede any sort of uneasy truce between predators.

We could even say that Magna Carta represents the first real detente between apex predators, so not so surprising governments end up being run by apex predators...and eventually decide to stop KEEPING their flocks AND JUST EAT THEM.

Which leads us to the Quisling principle: you can’t pretend you’re a predator and get away with it...”I like you, Sully - I’ll kill you last”. Supporting predators in hopes there’s more leavings for *you* is a jackal’s perspective.

Violence is most definitely programmed into us, but “billions of years of evolution” have NOT made us immune to violence itself as a real-time programming factor. It’s most definitely taught, every day in a thousand ways, in every interaction, as children watch the grown-ups around them and develop their survival skills, and test them out on each other. Ignoring this is one of the things that blind us to so much of life.

People are born equally with an instinct for sympathy and compassion, with the capacity for kindness and affection and co-operation. There’s much new data coming out of the research being done on sports-related brain injury and traumatic brain injury in our vets that is helping us understand how this stuff actually affects behavior, as opposed to the musings of “Dr Reddit” or whoever.

We are not just animals, but we *ARE* mammals, and as mammals were not much different from any other crowded and desperate group of mammals if they’re scared...hungry...receiving random shocks on the regular...which is to say we are largely insanely self-destructive, and become moreso daily. Not a critical mass of us, yet, or the violence would have burned itself out by now, but the frogs in the beaker are done: if we’re waiting for the frogs to jump OUT, they can’t, they’re already dead.



So very hard to tell with you...it’s not a joke if you’re the only one who thinks you’re joking...and if that’s your main schtick
Read the rest of my discussion with Gypsy. If you still disagree then we can agree to disagree.

Not my fault you didn't recognize a joke. I thought the Reptilian thing would have made it obvious. I'm really sorry for your confusion though.
 

White Beard

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I read your back & forth with Gypsy...how do you think I got here?

Depends on what you mean by “agree to disagree”....

Not my fault you’re not so good at joking...especially when your first “bit” sounded looney-fuckin-toons. When the response to your sense of humor is “aw, fuck - what now?”, telling the audience you’re sorry they’re confused is a great way to empty the club...bet you make *great* tips
 

Mr. J

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I read your back & forth with Gypsy...how do you think I got here?

Not my fault you’re not so good at joking...especially when your first “bit” sounded looney-fuckin-toons. When the response to your sense of humor is “aw, fuck - what now?”, telling the audience you’re sorry they’re confused is a great way to empty the club...bet you make *great* tips
The ones who got it got it and the ones who didn't didn't. Kinda ruins the joke if you have to explain it to the slower people.

To be honest it doesn't really bother me as much as it seems to bother you.
 

White Beard

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Sometimes the tiny edgelords need straight talk, though they’re too magnificent to pay attention...it’s no bother, but my children are grown already.

Zoom zoom, Speedy - don’t run into anything!
 
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