Imported (Moroccan, Afghani, Nepalase) Hash photo's and discussion....

[Night crawler]

Been a bit of dry spell (2 months) I guess it was due to crackdowns in Morocco and of course covid...didn't help that my hash man went AWOL too.

Found a new source and they had some bars of Banana OG and an unknown block.

Banana OG is the slightly dryer of the two but soon softens up like a soft fudge, it certainly tastes of bananas and you can smell it off the block quite well, has a nice relaxing indica stone that suits me just right.

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Unknown block was a lot softer and got quite sticky once warm.
Again another indica that packs a bit more punch than the banana, it tastes a bit spicy with berries/citrus.

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Bloody price has gone up nearly 2 quid a g, don't know if it's because of the new source or due it being a bit dry.

Only place i could get that use to be in breda . Real morroc.cheers

 

[Night crawler]

Plasticine.the recipe is fake hash.

 

[Night crawler]

Been smoking 35 year .every day all day pure .bongs.3 days without .bad temper .sweats.no sleep at all.volitile.why cant i live in holland instead of drunking uk.

 

[Speula]

All right then since there were restrictions lifted regarding covid19 all across Europe last week it was a no brainer celebrating this sorta freedom and going for a well deserved holiday spontaneousely for a few days. North sea, anyone?

So why not stop by again in Amsterdam on our way to the beaches of Noord Holland to pick up some goodies and see if anything changed since visiting a few weeks back. Couldn't resist but had to put a picture of still quite empty De Dam up here, too. People seem to return slowly but surely, still I will not discuss this pandemic here as stated before, cheers.

However, stuff shown easily is the best of this voyage ; foreign genetics from Morocco supposedly static filtered. Smooth, very refined and clear taste of 'sorta weed' along with a very strong head- as well as body high(Note: even though very strong I have to mention that the best from my last trip/post[foreign genetics] I indulged in again this time is even a certain tad stronger and virtually the strongest I had in years when it comes to imports and I tried many, oh my.).
Doesn't look like much but the proof is in the pudding again.


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@Speula

Cheers! Yes, I agree they definitely did their homework in the last years in Morocco(and probably elsewhere, not that I'm complaining but again: haven't heard of other approaches regarding planting new genetics in Nepal, Afghanistan or India yet. Let alone processing. )somehow sadly in terms of genetics but more importantly techniquewise. At least when it comes to high grades but also the general quality got a bit better(though still too many mid grades and averageness around in my humble opinion).
Discussed a lot by others and myself in this thread.
Also thanks in particular for this thingie about the bakingsheet, much appreciated! Not that I'm overly surprised people do this, especially on a black market, it is still good to know ; it indeed seems you live and learn. Personally this approach isn't essentially new to me so I file this under 'another worked hash then' and would above all always distinguish between this and importeurs/dealers cutting their gear.
If you know other cheap tricks tell us about it. Needless to say stickers on bars and so on are still bullshit since ages but as you put it people(of today?)need a stupid name and packaging ; also discussed to the max. Wonder if there are people out there collecting the 'best and most artful' stickers.

Since the corona started and borders are closed, prices went up crazy, same qualities are now 1.5+ more at least and barely available...I guess the more up you go in Europe the dryer it gets on the market.

 

[Night crawler]

You should live in scotland .you can buy valium ,zanax,crack,heroin in abundance but cannabis no .why uk goverment.control i think .they cant cintrol us because its not addictive.

 

[vanilla dutch]

bho ssh is 100 dollars a gram in the states. all yellow.fwiw

 

[MickTheBrag]

hash

hash

hasnt been any import hash round my area since nov 2019. i heard its stopped at sourse.
i reckon its terrorists islamic state and others. i prefer hash to bud i like the buzz better.
sooner its legal the better. you can buy it online but its £200.00 a half ounce theres no way iam paying that.



peace mick

 

[jayd]

ive heard the king in morocco has been having a clamp down also eu have been paying farmers not to grow. the change from old tradional landrace strains to new school dutch genetics has had an impact as well. the tradional landrace strains had adapted to the enviroment for generations so needed less care and watering, now farmers are drilling more bore holes in the mountains as they set up irrigation systems to water the non adapted new school strains whats had a knock on effect witht the water supplys for the villages whats kicked up a big fuss. hopefully with morocco now closed we will see some indian or afghan pakistan hash come over but with all the corona i very much doubt it

 

[Night crawler]

I heard dutch traffickers have switched from morroco to cyprus for leb by yacht their trad way of doing things.just lets hope they bring enough to supply uk.

 

[Night crawler]

The dutch would bring tons out of morroco and supply europe including the uk .in the 80s the hash was real from them .then the fat ****s from london took over then dink.

 

[Night crawler]

I would pay 200 a half .12 .50 a g.better than shaved weed .

 

[mack 10]

I was recently given 3 Oz of some squidgy black and it smelled like plasticine, I thought I'd try an experiment and see what water soluble shite I could wash out of it.
If it had THC in it I'd expect a return of maybe 20 or 30% thats including non water soluble additives too, it came back at 75% non soluble additives and I'm convinced there was no THC in it.
I reckon it is basically some sort of mix of maybe a plant resin and a plasticine like substance I'm not familiar with.
Either these dummies are still producing this border hash bullshit or it's some stash from years ago like you said.
Can't be good for anyone smoking that shit.

few months ago a mate gave me some "hash" to try.
It resembled some Redseal Black
but had a strange, not quiet right texture.
Was total crap, harsh on the throat.
and not hi in any way.
i now think it was not Hash atall.
maybe some kind of JH..whatever that synthetic thc is called.
makes you sick that people would try and pass that shit off.
buyer beware!

Soon as this Covid shit is over i'mcatching a flight to Hashland!
(be it Amsterdam, Barcelona or Morocco.)

 

[tobedetermined]

Like many, my main source seems to be drying up. The black market in Canada has been thriving – both before & after legalization – and imported hash has been coming in regularly. But the tap is turning off – maybe only a Covid thing, who knows? One online store on the left coast that calls themselves ‘The King of Hash’, do have a very wide selection but much of it is black slab under various names. Over the last couple of years I have sampled Lebanese, Turkish, Nepalese, Afghan, Moroccan & all but some Mazar-i-Sharif were mid-grade.

This latest hash really surprised me. It is not an import. It is Traditional Pressed Hash by 48North. It is small batch artisanal legal hash made in Kirkland Lake, Ontario, Canada. That’s moose country by the way . . . And it is better than almost all of the imports that I mentioned above. Not only that, but I bought & paid for it online from the legal cannabis store & it was delivered to my door in less than 24 hours with no shipping charge. Of course, it was 20% – 30% more $s . . .

Unnamed hybrid indoor soil grown under LED & hung dried. Machine trimmed & dry sieved. And the batch I bought (sold only in single grams) is tested at 45.57% THC. It is strong & has a great smell (sweet pine), smooth taste (woody)& nice soft (but not crumbly) texture. Smooth balanced long lasting high that starts in your upper body & tingles its way down. This is well made hash.

 

[sandsmp81]

ive heard the king in morocco has been having a clamp down also eu have been paying farmers not to grow. the change from old tradional landrace strains to new school dutch genetics has had an impact as well. the tradional landrace strains had adapted to the enviroment for generations so needed less care and watering, now farmers are drilling more bore holes in the mountains as they set up irrigation systems to water the non adapted new school strains whats had a knock on effect witht the water supplys for the villages whats kicked up a big fuss. hopefully with morocco now closed we will see some indian or afghan pakistan hash come over but with all the corona i very much doubt it

That crackdown was a while ago but they're still producing loads, them modern strains do suck up a lot of water though.
It's just this covid has stopped a lot of importers in their tracks, also the encrochat network was busted which stopped a lot of movement.

I know of loads sat around because people are too scared to touch it after their encrochat network was infiltrated.

Only people I know bringing it in right now are small scale car loads, it is pretty hard to come by.

I see plenty of high quality Afghan on Instagram but that stuff is for the locals and rarely leaves the area, I've never seen anything from Pakistan since the 90's, I used to have some great contacts in Bradford.

 

[ULMW]

Ace Seeds Bublawi QWISO hash

Bubbakush x Malawi

 

[NotYourSaviour]

Covid19 raging since about half a year – now we can start talking about crisis

Covid19 raging since about half a year – now we can start talking about crisis

Back from another excursion across the dutch sea and the one below is the best traditional moroccan hashish found this time.
Particularly often labeled as 'Beldia' on that occassion.
Blondish resin, very light yet sweetish-earthy smell. My palate notices them as well. Mellow head high and nice enough body load. All in all a typically high grade of that hashish , though very commercial but still ticks all the boxes nonetheless and should make the average consumer happy.

However, this one again was vastly overpriced by a mile. Since this type was all over the place again I took a little deeper research this time.

Another mixed bag of opinions[I don't pretend to have more solid informations about that topic or news at all, just my two cents - in the end I'm no insider].

Mostly talked to coffeeshop staff and owners as well as a few others among the way about current market situation.

About fourty selected coffeeshops were visited in a few provinces which isn’t representative at all but enough to get a feel for current circumstances ; half of them under moroccan management which is again nothing special and not worth mentioning but all in all I hope you get my drift when doing this nonetheless.

Whole picture and all that!

All of them stated there is a massive problem obtaining classic landcrace stuff.

Prices for the above went up 300%[three hundred] on the average.
All blamed covid19 and closed borders for this very problem.
This means usually this was a mid-price-product on coffeeshop menus - now one has to
pay those sick prices one pays usually for the more unique stuff there.

Obviously smugglers need to try other routes now and only smaller amounts brought over as Sandsmp81 also reported and so they did as well.

All to some degree forseeable but what puzzles me again is why there are still so called Morocs with foreign genetics on offer with much less of a problem and seemingly still in abundance which was commented as well.

Also noticed not much changed in prices for that category.
One owner(60+)of moroccan descent pointed out all of his current stock[which was the same boring range as more or less every time] is coming from Spain and is produced there – landrace stuff one can't find at the minute.

By the way his stuff didn’t look and smelt different than usual.
Both points are ridiculous as so often in this 'industry' as it only shows again its somewhat heterogeneous nature and people involved as at least on one hand there is still said quality – if more expensive - to be had.

Though that remark about hash from Spain I'm hearing since a couple of years, also from more trustful sources than this particular case(he proves one can still sell hash for thirty years without having too much of a clue obviously in his case).
He couldn't go into more detail about production though, obviously as he didn't know.

In my humble opinion this could be true to some degree as I suspect various offers of Moroc with foreign genetics to be not from Morocco but indeed produced elsewhere and reported so in the past.

I bet it's somewhat tumbled resin from grass before they sell it like too often in the Netherlands or in general with the ususal suspects and their big commercial operations on the black market in the last decade but I wonder if this is coming from indoor or outdoor crops in particular?

Tend to think it's from outdoor stuff but indoor wouldn't be too surprising as well as they seem to have a booming market over there since a couple of years due to various reasons.

Also it was explained to me from a trustful source that in Spain itsself some local people buy everything arriving so other non-local interested parties hardly come by anything while they try. Some people involved are very pessimistic whether that will end soon if at all in the future, especially the high grade, let alone top shelf ,seems to stay in those local circles.

My personal conclusion: hearing and seeing all this it dawned on me regarding a couple of things.
When I first commented on Covid19 and droughts I knew it's gonna take a while until it has an impact[putting one and one together].

Now almost half a year later(my guess as well) it slowly starts to dry up, particularly since a few weeks.
Until today most stuff lying around anyway always seem to have been sold now.

Despite all this talk I still wonder about these absurdities: why there is still enough 'Gardella' respectively Moroc with foreign genetics around?

What is all the fuss about the so called 'Beldia' suddenly? Especially now?
Particularly wondering as the quality above is an standard item of solid quality at most coffeeshops more specialised in hashish and nothing unique at all but why now it's on the list at places never carried it at all before?

Looks like an extra piece of the cake for some people due to the crisis to me.

One person said this type was even harder to get before Covid19 as well and now of course even more, very soon it'll be gone forever anyway due to open pollination.
Latter one is no news at all as discussed before but still I wonder why so many other shops jumped on it even though they used to sell other types and which they still do. Especially had the impression in the last years the majority of customers looking for the new stuff rather than this particular classic one.
Who is buying the same product for much more money now, it’s just not worth it but it seems some people are desperate and so they get away with it as usual.
And again, there is no lack of foreign genetics ones yet respectively the Gardella, which I refer to those generic mixes of genetics being around for quite a while now.
If reduced traffic keeps going on I assume everything lying around from that range will get more rare at one point logically.

Some people mentioned they think current situation stays the same for the next months repsectively up to next year - I too think it is really starting now but still on the other hand think that people involved in trade are after a solution heavily ; only a matter of time again.

Could it be we're at the verge of a change and this 'Beldia' turns into a niche product well sought after beside the omnipresent offerings of Gardella and foreign genetics?
I fantasised about that one in the past as an option if everything gets legal one day horrendous price included.

While I see others getting in trouble now as they want to consume particular grades and other various reasons I have to say to some point I find the current situation exciting as I'm still an occassional but passionate consumer anyway
so my current stash will easily last me a year so I just lean back and take a look what happens.

If situations with borders and routes calm down what will happen then? A flooding of the market? Prices dropping(dreaming is allowed, huh?)?

In theory as they still produce of course there should be oversupply then. Maybe it even gets better than before and general quality goes up - why always be too critical about it, l ol l?

Product needs to be delivered and one has not to be a pessimist nor optimist but just to be realist as too many people earn money. So it is only a matter of time until people in force will find a way in this very corrupted world
everything else is highly unlikely in this profit driven society.

Hopefully this all has no impact on general quality again as this current 'Beldia' is nice to have but leaves room for improvement big time and in the end only is more or less the least qualitywise I want to consume when it comes to high grades. If this would turn into the 'best available' I quit consuming I guess ; never ever I will source gear online.
Maybe so much won’t change for our circle as high grades are coming our way rarely anyway so thinking positive and all that, haha.
Pretty realistic about it myself regarding at least decent enough midgrades will be available at one point though probably the Gardella type then.
By the way 50% of my current sources at home are more or less dry now as well.

Or definitely try harder to grow again and do my thing again even though would be very sorry about the abscence of traditional hashish kissed by the sun.
General amateurish approaches when harvesting, general greed for profit at all costs, no customer protection as well as not so nice people involved in that shit would have much more of a toll on me then I reckon.

Tempted to do some extra research on dutch ground especially at private sources as in my experience they are often better connected than most coffeeshops but not so handy.

Time will tell!

@MickTheBrag / Jayd

Morocco is more or less liberal regarding religions, not so many radicals there it seems. In my humble opinion has to do with the king there taking care of them – though not for the benefit of mankind but to make sure no one brings down his royal family and status as he would be in big trouble if they get more powerful.
Particularly asked all people I talked about this topic if they are still producing in Morocco what I expected anyway and this was confirmed as a fact, too.
As said before it is such an essential market and relatively big money to be made so people involved will always find a way to deliver. I take it they are just changing their routes at the minute and reorganise themselves ; also I haven't heard of problems of the supply of other drugs, especially coke and smack even though even more money involved there it is business as usual more or less – money rules again.

@Speula

Your comment pretty much nailed the current situation so again spot on! Do you know about these mysterious types of hash produced in Spain? If so, is this coming from indoor or outdoor harvests?

 

[MindEater]

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[sandsmp81]

Interesting read there @notyoursaviour

It seems the traditional "beldia" has been threatened for years by the cross pollination from the newer genetics.

I guess it will become that sought after strain/hash, I know a few Moroccans who will only smoke the "beldia" they say the modern genetics "cloud the mind", I don't have this issue with the modern blocks, some have been nice, I used to be able to choose strains but now it's you get what you're given basically.

Myself I like some of the modern types, but I did know a guy who used to literally have a few more traditional Moroccan hashes like the Beldias etc etc , he also used to get Russian hash and a few other quite exotic hashes, but now all he can get is the modern hash blocks and he's even been asking me for some.

This covid thing certainly shut things down for a while but again I also think the encrochat bust didn't help too, it's been a combination of a few factors all at once.

It's been a month since I stocked up and the various sources I know have had nothing, just the one group who have been doing their own runs which I already talked about.

I hope it all gets back to normal soon but who knows?

 

[therevverend]

It seems the traditional "beldia" has been threatened for years by the cross pollination from the newer genetics.

What's interesting in all this is that the 'beldia' or whatever people call it now isn't all that old. The hashish industry in Morocco appeared recently compared to other traditional hashish producing regions, in the early 1960s. It appeared to meet the huge demand that grew in Europe as cannabis use among young people expanded. It was never an industry to supply native Moroccans with the stuff.

Moroccans weren't hashish smokers, they preferred to smoke flowers, called kif, often mixed with tobacco and/or certain strains of mint. The ganja was weak, contained only 2-3% THC and mixed 1/3 cannabis, 2/3 tobacco. I'm curious what other terpenes and cannabinoids it contained. My theory is that it was a hybrid of hemp type northern strains and drug strains from the east or a pure hemp strain selected for high THC. The traditional kif plant wasn't a good hashish plant, wasn't potent, didn't have a lot of resin glands, the glands were small, and I imagine difficult to dislodge unlike a good hash plant strain. The foreigners who started the hashish trade and taught the Moroccans hash tech introduced seeds from other parts of the Middle East. A lot of them were Lebanese but there were also strains from India, Pakistan, Algeria, Egypt, Turkey, Afghanistan, etc. Which means the 'Beldia' as we know it, by the 1980s, was a hybrid mix of these foreign influences and the original kif plant which is now lost.

It seems strange to me that Moroccans are expected to continue growing this Beldia, that isn't really native to Morocco and isn't for consumption by Moroccans, but rather to satisfy the European market. Of course they'll grow the stuff that maximizes their profits. That said there's benefits to growing the older hash plant that the newer genetics don't have. Besides stuff like drought and disease resistance, needs less nutrients, better adapted to local conditions, the biggest benefit is the early harvest. Basically it allows the farmers to grow a light dep crop without having to roll back the shade cover twice a day. The older hash plants finish in August, the new ones finish in October. This means the chance of cool wet weather ruining your crop by causing boytritis and powdery mildew epidemics becomes a possibility. It's probably why Moroccan hashplants will always be a hybrid between the original kif genetics and the newer introduced hash plants.

 

[sandsmp81]

My usual source who has been AWOL just got me some nice blonde blocks that they said was Nicole kush.

They said things are starting to pick up again with regards to bigger imports as theirs isn't sourced by little runs.

It seems very fresh and super soft, smells nice and flowery, it smokes very nicely, quite perfumed (doesn't taste like previous Nicole kush blocks so it could be something else) it's very lightly pressed, a 100g bar looks quite big.

Few pics, I can't seem to upload stuff in 64mp so my photos seem to degrade a bit.

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