ImaginaryFriend's INTERPRETATION of Delta9nxs' PASSIVE PLANT KILLERS

[ImaginaryFriend]

That advice is consistent with my plans.

I guess I might be doing something right.

Depending on how I count it, today is around 51-52 days of flower. I've taken down five terminals closest to the light, and have them hanging. I'll probably just continue on this process until they're harvested in totality. Depending on other factors, I might be able to leave the last bunch of inner flowers for and extra week or more... We'll see how the world turns.

 

[delta9nxs]

That advice is consistent with my plans.

I guess I might be doing something right.

Depending on how I count it, today is around 51-52 days of flower. I've taken down five terminals closest to the light, and have them hanging. I'll probably just continue on this process until they're harvested in totality. Depending on other factors, I might be able to leave the last bunch of inner flowers for and extra week or more... We'll see how the world turns.

you've done a lot of things "right". and you are getting a nice stash. lots of hash trim.

i think some of what you see on the leaves is senescence.

well, i gotta get back to baiting an idiot on the defo thread, i'm bored.

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

I find your presence there amusing. You will note that I haven't said anything over there at all, much less to encourage you...

 

[delta9nxs]

I find your presence there amusing. You will note that I haven't said anything over there at all, much less to encourage you...

the thread had gotten to the point where it was unusable. there is a sizable contingent there that want to discuss it and were not being allowed to. we have been partially successful in getting some of the distractions stopped and a lot of the smarter, more experienced growers in the "against" camp have been nice enough to let us do so in peace.

but we still have a couple of little dogs nipping at our heels that need to move on.

i'm not really angry at anybody, it's always the theater of the absurd for me!

 

[oldone]

but we still have a couple of little dogs nipping at our heels that need to move on.

i'm not really angry at anybody, it's always the theater of the absurd for me!

Arguing with idiots is always a losing proposition...you know DF works...I know it works, I'm sure others do as well.

Its like the ppk, its too simple to work although I'm surprised that we dont have any haters on our threads. Some people just need to be assholes.

If you're baiting for fun go for it. But if you're trying to change people's minds...who gives a shit?

Just my stoned 2 cents..
OO

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

Looked at some cut flowers again today. Not entirely excited by the trich profile... depending on where I look, it goes from mostly cloudy to some clear... (but then again, maybe it's exactly what I'm looking for... and I guess I won't really know for a few months). But I based this run around a seven week cycle, and we are about to hit eight (and I only gave myself an extra eleven days of flower to stay on schedule)... so the cut continues.

We'll see what the future holds when the future holds it...

In the fullness of time, I can see this 'short' strain running nine full weeks... the 'green' pheno is less common, if I understand the guys properly on the Short Sub-forum. If that's true, it would seem possible that it runs longer than the classic descriptions you can find online.

I just keep cutting a few colas every day, labeling the hanger. Every sample should have a nice cure before I have to make the next set of decisions. So it could be worse. I might still be trying to grow with NGW hose and wondering what the hell is wrong with me...

Throughout all of this, I am reminded that D9 was running ST4 for six weeks, then seven then eight and then nine... In an imaginary world where I get everything in my life done that is on the list... and I can get to know this lady as one who wants to run for nine weeks... it might meet my schedule just fine.

The feeder reservoirs are down to EC 1.2.

That's where I'm going to keep them for the rest of this run.

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

Flower samples, 54 days of 12-12

Flower samples, 54 days of 12-12

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

To the Jars! To the Jars!

To the Jars! To the Jars!

 

[delta9nxs]

they really look nice! watch out for that damn mold! air them several times a day at first. at least 10 minutes at a time. toss em and turn them over. this is when you want the humidity below 50%.

i'm at a cabin in the very smokey mountains. nice and peaceful. this is the first time i've ever been away from the plants without someone there babysitting. a little nervous but confident.

congrats on your grow! you mentioned you might be redesigning. i've got an idea on the lights. how tall did your plants get?

not my computer so gotta go.

later

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

I guess they ended... well... about... I dunno.

Three-feetish?

 

[oldone]

I guess they ended... well... about... I dunno.

Three-feetish?

wait...what? You dont have them documented down to +- 0.032"???? and weight and and....

Wow, must be seriously good smoke dude...

@D9 How can the father of the modern ppk be nervous? Whats the worst that could happen? You have an electrical problem and your house burns down...look on the bright side, you'd still have us.

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

I don't know...

I harvested terminals, and but the rest of the plant is still running out to 62 days.

I know where they were relative to the cross sections of the tomato cages... so I just have to combine (1.) me being relatively alert, with (2.) lights being on, and (3.) a tape measure to get it down to the nearest inch. [ULTIMATELY MEANING: The world may never know.]

That said, a lot of my laterals were longer than the plant was tall. Even though I tried to train to a central lead, I had secondary growth grow up and around what I was trying to define as my main growth. If it was 36" tall, I wouldn't be surprised to find branches off the back that were 30" long (making a lateral width potential of five feet...)

(I find it interesting that this genetic seems to want to self-top... that is, five out of five times, left to her own devices, she will run a secondary shoot out and up to chase the main lead without training. This has happened with every healthy cut I've kept alive for more than a few weeks.)

Like you, oo, I found myself unable to really get to the back of the garden. I hope to address this in the future: The elements of this build were largely designed by necessity, rather than personal preferences.

I'm curious to see what I can do with some new space, and a bit more insight in the ways of this lady.

 

[oldone]

[ULTIMATELY MEANING: The world may never know.]

a sad day indeed.

That said, a lot of my laterals were longer than the plant was tall. Even though I tried to train to a central lead, I had secondary growth grow up and around what I was trying to define as my main growth. If it was 36" tall, I wouldn't be surprised to find branches off the back that were 30" long (making a lateral width potential of five feet...)

(I find it interesting that this genetic seems to want to self-top... that is, five out of five times, left to her own devices, she will run a secondary shoot out and up to chase the main lead without training. This has happened with every healthy cut I've kept alive for more than a few weeks.)

Do you think this might have something to do with your vertical side light arrangement? I wonder how she'd grow with top lighting?

Lovely buds man, enjoy!
OO

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

Do you think this might have something to do with your vertical side light arrangement? I wonder how she'd grow with top lighting?

Yes. I think her structure is bushy to begin with, but the available light was shining to the lower-back of the tent, and that's where she grew into.

I am stuck on vertical lighting in my head. It makes the most sense in terms of light efficiency and compact use of floor space.

I don't see myself going to horizontal again... as that moves me back into ScrOGs (no disrespect at all--it's the best way in my mind to run a horizontal set up)... And then I'd find myself doing multi-shelf set up (which actually might be super fun, and I have some cool mental designs), and would eat up quite a bit of floor space. I have another vertical-scrog-drawer-mental-design based on a vertical barebulb t-5 set-up... but it all so eats up so much space. That one might also be fun though, if for some reason I was forced to move away from HIDs. Either way, I would build out the vertical scrog first, as I think I could be more productive a smaller footprint. (Both would be super fun projects--but are on the fun list... not the necessary list.)

I am, however, interested in a horizontal veg set up to get a taller, narrower plant before moving her into flower and then let her square up. That is part of the mental redesign.

Side note: That 'self-topping' characteristic is true of both of my new girls, under a t-5 horizontal set up.

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

Small selection from the 56 batch was sampled.

Still a touch damp (don't worry about me not watching it closely and burping the jars... I'm staying on it)...

Burned to white ash for those who care about that kind of thing.

No chem residue taste running 2.8EC at one point, and running res EC at 1.2 Jacks (+possible residue from dedicated program of random nute feedings) at harvest. Taste itself is mild, with a back palate spice. Touch of chlorophyll at the very end of the burnt down to nothingness material.

Heady, with a bit of out-of-body disconnect/separation.

Quiet and focused mind, with the notable exception that I can't remember how to spell or add punctuation.

Definitive sensory enhancement... color contrast increased and back lit. Sent and auditory awareness to the forefront.

Current and minor/inconsequential physical injuries have faded behind the background.

Very positive vibration and outlook.

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My official position on this grow is: not a failure.

Not a failure, my ImaginaryFriends.

Not a failure at all.

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Yay.

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

It isn't super relevant for this grow, but there are fungus gnats populating this coco.

I got one under the scope, and it's clearly not a winged root aphid...

But there is clearly a population in this garden.

I'm super curious to see what kinds of other little beasties are growing inside the root zone when I get a chance to dissect it... but that is still quite some time away.

Found some solid threads on treatment methodologies. Will be keeping an eye out for these treatments as I visit the usual box stores in the near future...

 

[oldone]

Well done dude...from the depths of despair to the heights of..."not bad at all"...

Good smoke report. Sounds like you are waxing euphoric just like I was. I'll be interested to hear if those perceptions change over time. Mine have a little.

BUGS! I fucking hate bugs. They can have the whole rest of the world. Just leave my 4.3 sqft alone. My advice to you: modern chemical technology. (I wanted to write "start drinking heavily")

It was about here in my grow that you started bugging me about run 3. I'm going to return the favour.

So what are you going to change for the next iteration?

I'm not imaginary,
OO

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

I haven't finished harvesting just yet... so I won't even have the girls fully broken down for a day or two.

Then there's the tent break down and clean up...

Then there's new space.

Then there's design in new space.

Then there's build out in new space.

I guess I could start a thread with my future Mom heavily LST'd in a cPPK (she's pretty) and the first girl to flower (she's also in about a liter of coco)... They're both eight or nine inches tall, although future mom has about ten leads/clone-attempts at that height...

I'll probably start a thread that will document the essential pieces of the build out, once the build out is done, and the First Lady is in there basking in the glow...

 

[mugenbao]

My official position on this grow is: not a failure.

Not a failure, my ImaginaryFriends.

Not a failure at all.

Hehe, excellent! I love your description of the effects, some very interesting qualities there.

 

[delta9nxs]

Surprise, surprise! My plants are all still alive! Everything quietly operating and plants agrowin'. Cool.

“I am, however, interested in a horizontal veg set up to get a taller, narrower plant before moving her into flower and then let her square up. That is part of the mental redesign.”

This will cost you yield. I strongly feel that training the plants with light in veg the same way you intend to flower is very important to final yield. In veg the plant is busy filling the empty air space around it with a presentation of foliage that is being produced to take advantage of the light source. This is when it “squares up” with vertical lighting.


“Burned to white ash for those who care about that kind of thing.”

I do! I do! Again, ec 1.5 for life. No aftertaste or harshness.


“Not a failure at all.”

You are smoking weed you grew. How cool is that?


“Well done dude...from the depths of despair to the heights of..."not bad at all"...” Funny, OO!


IF, did you ever get a handle on that “nanner” issue?

On the phuckin' phungus gnats and all other pests that are actually on the plant, aphids, mites, thrips and so on, I recommend Captain Jack's Dead Bug with “spinosad”.

This stuff is safe for humans and pets. It can be sprayed on plants up to harvest although I don't like wet buds for any reason. It works by combining two bacterial agents that when combined destroy the bugs nervous system. No effect on mammals or plants.

Also, especially effective for fungus gnats is to spray regular household Raid flying insect killer on the outside of your containers only. Dry, long after application, it still kills gnats that light on the surface. After a plant comes out I sometimes find a little ring of dead gnats around the container on the floor.

Some coco seems to come with eggs in it. The atami stuff is steamed to kill pests.

How many plants do you intend to grow and how much space are you going to have?

later