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HOW MANY CHILDREN NEED TO DIE BEFORE GUN LAWS CHANGE IN THE USA

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Hammerhead

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Yep, all should have the right to defend our homes using any means necessary. IMO that DA should be fired.
 

armedoldhippy

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He only got one out of five.
Needs to up his game.
if all 5 came in, you are right. if that guy came in alone and had turned to run, i can see why he was indicted. easy to indict. convictions, not so much. i'd like to be on the jury and hear what really happened...
 

gypsyeyes

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lol, ya that doesn't happen here. upholding the constitution only happens when it benefits them politically. Power is way more important to them.
“When there’s no such thing as truth, you can’t define reality. When you can’t define reality, the only thing that matters is power.” - Maajid Nawaz
 

Hammerhead

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Those seeking power at all costs will never change. The 2 largest power seeking piles a shit is the USA and China.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.”
Abraham Lincoln.



Reacting to something happens quickly. If someone is in your home illegally with a gun im gonna shot them to kill them. They are there for that same reason. The world has some shitty Laws, I'm not gonna ask them why there in my home.
 
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moose eater

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Years ago when I'd transport my shotgun into Canada (I still do), after the 1978 restrictions went into effect, but before the current licensing requirements, or the licensing requirements that preceded the current regs, sometimes Canada Customs (well before they were considered a Law Enforcement entity; when they had no firearms), would ask me the purpose of my shotgun.

(*Never told them it's because I saw Easy Rider as a kid, but....)

My reply was typically and somewhat boisterously, "For bear, both 2-legged and 4-legged."

I always phone the Canadian Border folks before my frequent trips, to see if any pertinent laws have changed since my last journey; spring assist knives versus switchblades (they see no difference, by the way, but used to say it was up to the officer on duty at the time of the crossing to make the determination), as well as what were once frequent 'tunings' or changes in the firearms laws, etc.

One trip on my Harley, I phoned ahead and spoke with a wonderful female Canada Customs Officer at the Beaver Creek Yukon Territory crossing (I have their direct line from years ago), and she asked the same question. I gave my same answer.

Unlike many I've encountered at US Customs, Canada Customs, especially up here, didn't used to play so many 'gotcha' games, and were often quite helpful. So it was in this phone call, when, after my admittedly glib reply, she cautioned me not to say that when I arrived at the Border that trip, as the law had gone into effect, similar to the UK's laws re. self-defense, prohibiting use of a firearm in self-defense against another human being.

We had a brief discussion about that new addition to the law being in contradiction to natural instinct, the perpetuation of the species and general survival. It was essentially 'an anti-Darwin law'.

She passively agreed, not being able to take a stand on political issues in her formal capacity as a Border Officer, but she understood my opinion, none the less.

These days, the shotgun is for "remote camping in areas where bear exist." No comment on number of appendages.
 
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Dime

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Years ago when I'd transport my shotgun into Canada (I stil do), after the 1978 restrictions went into effect, but before the current licensing requirements, or the licensing requirements that preceded the current regs, sometimes Canada Customs (well before they were considered a Law Enforcement entity; when they had no firearms), would ask me the purpose of my shotgun.

(*Never told them it's because I saw Easy Rider as a kid, but....)

My reply was typically and somewhat boisterously, "For bear, both 2-legged and 4-legged."

I always phone the Canadian Border folks before my frequent trips, to see if any pertinent laws have changed since my last journey; spring assist knives versus switchblades (they see no difference, by the way, but used to say it was up to the officer on duty at the time of the crossing to make the determination), as well as what were once frequent 'tunings' or changes in the firearms laws, etc.

One trip on my Harley, I phoned ahead and spoke with a wonderful female Canada Customs Officer at the Beaver Creek Yukon Territory crossing (I have their direct line from years ago), and she asked the same question. I gave my same answer.

Unlike many I've encountered at US Customs, Canada Customs, especially up here, didn't used to play so many 'gotcha' games, and were often quite helpful. So it was in this phone call, when, after my admittedly glib reply, she cautioned me not to say that when I arrived at the Border that trip, as the law had gone into effect, similar to the UK's laws re. self-defense, prohibiting use of a firearm in self-defense against another human being.

We had a brief discussion about that new addition to the law being in contradiction to natural instinct, the perpetuation of the species and general survival. It was essentially 'an anti-Darwin law'.

She passively agreed, not being able to take a stand on political issues in her formal capacity as a Border Officer, but she understood my opinion, none the less.

These days, the shotgun is for "remote camping in areas where bear exist. No comment on numbers of appendages.
Interesting. The governments view seems to be it's fine to use a gun to hunt something that is not hunting you but you can't use one to protect a human hunting you.
 

moose eater

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Interesting. The governments view seems to be it's fine to use a gun to hunt something that is not hunting you but you can't use one to protect a human hunting you.
In the case of our transiting Canada with firearms as US folks, if we are licensed to hunt there, or have such an adventure lined up, they're cool with that. If we're simply transporting firearms through, from point A to point B, they're good with that, too. But if it's for self-defense, it -has- to be for critters only, such as bear.

Used to be that only our LEOs could transport handguns through Canada, (after the 1978 prohibitions and restrictions). And to do so, they needed to have original orders in hand as to the official reason for their transporting a handgun. And Canada Customs would seal that firearm, requiring them to produce the intact seal at the point of exit, when they left Canada. (*Rode through Beaver Creek, January, 1979 with an Alaska State Trooper who'd picked me up at King Mountain hitch-hiking, on his way to Phoenix to drop a truck at his folks, and then on to St. Louis to snag a prisoner being held for delivery of heroin up here; LOTS of stories from that trip!! A good guy; we remained acquaintances when I moved to Fairbanks to attend University in 1980).

I was headed to Whitehorse to stay with friends for a brief visit.

These days, largely due to the efforts of the now deceased former Congressional Representative for Alaska (Don Young, a corrupt money-grubber if ever there was), we can transport handguns through, but we have to file for that permit -before- arriving at the Border, where as a person can license a longarm at the Border.

Not sure if the handguns are still sealed, the way they used to be for LEOs on official business, but I suspect they are.

I've been there watching and waiting to be processed inside when they were seizing a handgun from someone who was naive about checking requirements before transiting, and the technicalities involved.

Sucks to forfeit a nice newer Glock, the hard case, extra mags, and ammo, simply due to assumptions about how the world works and failure to make a phone call or 2.
 

Dime

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Trudeau has changed it here ,people cannot buy, sell, or transfer handguns within Canada, and they cannot bring newly acquired handguns into the country .
 

armedoldhippy

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No comment on number of appendages.
got "no-legs" down here. i just herd them out of the way with a stick, though. against state law to kill snakes. wardens will let it slide if they are under your porch or show up unexpectedly. i still wouldn't kill them, too expensive/too much work repairing sheet rock, floors etc. i've dealt with way too many snakes to kill one. venomous spiders are another story, got black widows around the house here. aint got a clue what a brown recluse looks like...:dunno: so i just mash them and get it over with.
 

moose eater

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got "no-legs" down here. i just herd them out of the way with a stick, though. against state law to kill snakes. wardens will let it slide if they are under your porch or show up unexpectedly. i still wouldn't kill them, too expensive/too much work repairing sheet rock, floors etc. i've dealt with way too many snakes to kill one. venomous spiders are another story, got black widows around the house here. aint got a clue what a brown recluse looks like...:dunno: so i just mash them and get it over with.
I understand a hoe or a tree-pruning blade on a long handle works well for snakes. And they taste good too. A bonus!!

My only encounter with a rattle snake was a Missisauga Timber Rattler sunning itself on the side of US 131 in Central Lower Peninsula of Michigan, near the Gaylord cut-off, when I was strolling down the shoulder of the highway, in the cool breeze on a sunny day, and I was staring at the toes of my boots as I made step after step, hitch-hiking, carrying 100 lbs of gear, and my Norwegian Elkhound on a leash. Nearly stepped on it, when I finally saw it, mouth open like a mouse trap. Freaked me out hugely. Discovered that a person properly amped up on adrenaline could, indeed, do a mid-air pirouette with that much gear on.
 

armedoldhippy

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especially if they rattle. Thats why i always carry a clean pair of shorts
i used to carry a camera everywhere "in case", you know? first timber rattler i ever saw, i was about 6" above it about to step on it before it started buzzing. i was back in the car and out of the mountains driving home before i remembered my camera. damn brain leaped up & exited the building when i heard that noise...:yoinks::biglaugh:
 

RobFromTX

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Open carry dealt a blow in this case. Ofcourse this is houston so im sure he'll be charged with something, maybe manslaughter. The "new" black panthers have thrown their hat in the ring so who knows how far things will go.


 
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