How long did you have to pay your dues, a.k.a. wait, before you got your first elite?

[TaxiBoy]

I'm always curious how long different people pay dues before getting their hands on true elite genetics. This wonderment is more directed to those of us who don't live in an MMJ state. Hell, I even lived in New York and Cali for a spell and still couldn't come upon any true elite cuts. I've been growing for a little over a decade and have yet to come upon any of these true clone-only elite cuts, myself. I've found some dank keepers over the years, but nothing coming even close to some cuts being passed around these days. I guess it doesn't help that I moved to a part of the country where I knew not a soul, so the chances of finding another like-minded friend who possesses elite cuts are slim to none.

How long did you have to wait before being gifted with the friendship of other kind, like-minded soulswith which you could safely and confidently share your secrets?

 

[Dr Dog]

what strains do you consider to be elite?

 

[NiteTiger]

I always say it -

Every elite started off as someone's bagseed.

If you've never gotten a cut, how do you know your keepers aren't as good?

I'm in a position where I have zero chance of getting a clone only strain. Hell, I don't even personally know anyone who grows, anymore. And like you said, no way of meeting one.

Even if I did meet a grower, I wouldn't know it. And if they did tell me, I certainly wouldn't tell them, because they obviously aren't real security conscious.

I say, make your own elite!

 

[NOKUY]

about as long as it takes for you to start doin work and helping others out.

u dont get handouts for nuthin.


dont expect anything from anyone, and start working it out for yourself.......then good things will come

 

[Verite]

Ive gone 25+ years now and still dont have any elites. Sorta helps if youre looking for them I guess.

 

[TaxiBoy]

I guess I was higher than I realized when I made the original post. I guess what interests me the most is how one happens to meet another knowledgeable grower, one that is trusted enough to pass cuts with. As my experience has shown me, it's damn near impossible to meet such a person, even in places where personal growing is quite prevalent. It really intrigues me when people talk about their buddies that they trade unique genetics with, as it's pretty much a fantasy to a person such as myself to ever have such friends.

 

[green_grow]

i live in a very liberal jurisdiction, but i dont expect to ever personally meet another grower (and know about it) . yes, it would be nice to swap cuttings, examine other set-ups, etc .

big sigh.

at least we have the internet.

 

[S4vvy]

Hmm. Maybe a year for me. Bought a small trainwreck mom from a guy in frisco for 60 bucks. If i had to start over from scratch right now i'd just buy beans. All the "elites" are popping up in crosses. Need diesels and chems try Rez. Kush's? Try suge's stuff. Rarer stuff like hp1, albert walker, and pi try msm.

Can't vouch for them personally but the options are there. Word to the wise - there's power in numbers so try to get as many packs of one strain that you can. I'd suggest 2-3 packs at least for s1's and 5 for f1/f2 etc. That way you'll get a better chance at finding a keeper (or multiple keepers) and you'll learn something about the breeders' work from the amount of variation between the plants.

So yea no need to wait at all. You can do this right now

 

[Pops]

This thread may not last long, as admin looks down on any talk of trading clones, or even gifting seeds or clones. As has been said, you stick around long enough and someone might make an offer. Just don't ever ask in open forum, as that is against the rules.

Sometimes, some of the small breeders offer seeds to be tested. If you have a gallery and have shown that you have growing skills, they may offer seeds for trial. Folks like me who don't ever show pics of plants generally don't get those offers, but as I have helped out others, I get offers occasionally. I am running 19 varieties now for my med patients, and some might be considered hard to find., but not elites. I don't grow some elites because the yield may not be there on some of them. I am in this for the meds, and I have limited space and plant counts. It is better for me to go with common strains that work for pain or nausea and still get good yields.

 

[Dr Dog]

Start getting involved with compassion clubs and the such
I met a few people on here that I just clicked with
you will eventually meet someone that shares your interests
But i think someone said it here, they don't know if they would say anything to that person because security is not that important to them

I kind of take the Homer Simpson approach, just kind of stumble through life, and things come to you

 

[TaxiBoy]

Please let me clarify, for the common good, that I am NOT soliciting. MY primary curiosity is how on earth does one even begin to make grow buddies? I mean, I get the whole "help people out" part, but I am not really talking about making friends through these forums. I am in awe each and every time I read about an ICmag'er talking about this buddy or that buddy, coming over to the grow, or meeting up to swap finished flowers or trade cuts, etc. IT just blows my mind that one could even meet such people while keeping a tight ship, security-wise, etc. I sometimes think that it would be fanfukingtastic to have such friends, but then I get to thinking all that is involved with such a friendship; the sharing of secrets that could put one another behind bars, etc. Its frightening, to say the least, But I also imagine that in some instances these relationships are immensely satisfying. Again, my original post didnt exactly put forth my ideas very well, and for that I apologize.

If you've got grow buddies, would you mind telling me how the relationship evolved to the point where it suddenly became time to reveal your hobby? How did you meet your grow buddies? Satisfy my curious mind!

 

[Dr Dog]

well in my case, it would have started with smoking with different people
You meet someone who smokes, you smoke with them a few times. Eventually you start to meet others that smoke with that person. The more you know these people, the more they will open up to you. You will eventually meet them. If you are just hanging out at home smoking, then you will probably never meet fellow smokers or growers.

My good friend, whom I have received a great portion of my genetics from, i met through smoking, we are great friends, I was there when he started his first crop. Years before me, even.
I have met people through work either at a workplace or on the road somewhere that I became friends with who either grew themselves or eventually met their friend that did.
Not that difficult, but over the years I have been smoking, like I said I just seem to stumble on them.
Hope this helps

 

[MacrowaveOven]

Elite is very often a misnomer. I've gotten some cuts, but nothing's beat what I've gotten from seed.
It's not dues you pay, it's kindness and paying it forward. Just be a decent person and good things happen to you. But don't give to get, give to give...

Good luck.

 

[green_grow]

Anyone a wine collector?

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I've noticed that amongst my circle of friends, those who I know that grow and/or smoke are also wine nerds, of sorts. I was wondering if the same held true of my fellow ICmag'ers. I've got a rather modest collection, myself. Mostly old world stuff... burgs, rhones, loire valley stuff, spotted here and there with some good examples of Cali wines and some Aussie gems. I'm toying with the idea of actually planting part of my property to Cabernet!

i found the first line of this post (from another thread started by TaxiBoy)) rather interesting .

 

[NiteTiger]

Start getting involved with compassion clubs and the such
I met a few people on here that I just clicked with
you will eventually meet someone that shares your interests

In all fairness, he did specifically say outside of a MMJ state, so the compassion club is kinda out :wink:

But i think someone said it here, they don't know if they would say anything to that person because security is not that important to them

I still stand by it

 

[I.M. Boggled]

Don't take candy from strangers...(possible satire follows)

Don't take candy from strangers...(possible satire follows)

The DEA:
collecting elite clones sinse 1973...

They would be more than happy to help a feller out with elite rooted genetic wonders...
I would recken Da Feds have a very diverse collection of plant materials in their possession and would be very willing to share for the asking to a non card holer in a no grow zone...
why they'll even stop by a bit down the road and see how it's all panning out for ya...
Ya be talkin 'bout helping a brudder out...
One heck of a pal.

In the USA, just call your local DEA and ask for the clone department and they'll take care of ya (dats fer shure).
Be sure and make some grow friends though as they certainly do enjoy and prefer a good conspiracy with various co-conspirators fighting over who gets to rat out who first.

The Moral:
Who's on first?
It's actually kinda hard to tell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thusly:

Posting Guideline Ol' number 7.
Threads or posts pertaining to the buying/ selling/ trading/ swapping/ testing/ giving of seeds, clones, pollen, cannabis, hash, or any other substance or article is not permitted in open forum by members and will be deleted.
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Threads or posts soliciting any of the aforementioned shall be deleted and the posting member will be banned from the site.
Wish lists of varieties placed in posts, threads, or the members 'signature line' area will be deleted by admin as doing so is deemed an attempt to circumvent site policy regarding solicitations

My mother taught me to "Just Say NO!" and "Don't take candy from strangers".
A wise woman she was.

Peace ya'll

IMB

 

[TaxiBoy]

Green_grow,

While I do know of some people who grow, I would never out myself to them as a fellow grower due to various security reasons. They seem not too concerned about letting me know that they grow, though. The part that I'm simply not getting, so to speak, is how people come to meet others that they deem a NON-threat. I just don't get it, really...

 

[thekingofNY]

Please let me clarify, for the common good, that I am NOT soliciting. MY primary curiosity is how on earth does one even begin to make grow buddies? I mean, I get the whole "help people out" part, but I am not really talking about making friends through these forums. I am in awe each and every time I read about an ICmag'er talking about this buddy or that buddy, coming over to the grow, or meeting up to swap finished flowers or trade cuts, etc. IT just blows my mind that one could even meet such people while keeping a tight ship, security-wise, etc. I sometimes think that it would be fanfukingtastic to have such friends, but then I get to thinking all that is involved with such a friendship; the sharing of secrets that could put one another behind bars, etc. Its frightening, to say the least, But I also imagine that in some instances these relationships are immensely satisfying. Again, my original post didnt exactly put forth my ideas very well, and for that I apologize.

If you've got grow buddies, would you mind telling me how the relationship evolved to the point where it suddenly became time to reveal your hobby? How did you meet your grow buddies? Satisfy my curious mind!

I have 1 person in the whole world I would ever tell about my grow, he however is nearly 1500 miles away now. I showed him how to grow, and have known him since we were 10. I have a few other friends I have shown how, but to them I knew how strictly because of a certain website I found and would just read and read and read, and occasional post problems w/pictures and people would help out, sort of like this site , we are all "younger" so they were able to go to the sites too and read for themselves

that and you just have to become part of the community, there is no way to fake this; once you start talking to people / others with no hidden agenda, as long as you don't have one, they will generally know. LOTS, and LOTS of people breed seeds or seeds in addition to green for themselves and for others in the US that are not as fortunate.

laslty, go buy some F1 seed's from a reputable seed bank or seedbay and grow your own "elite", if you can grow out that clone you are so eager to acquire, you should be able to grow out seeds no problem and if it's an F1...

Edit; Another idea came to mind, dose with friends, if you can trust them to take that and know them that well, generally you can talk about growing pot with them, generally you will already smoke with these same friends.

Also have you tried a harvest festival? Or maybe move to a state where it is not a felony to grow (Maine, Alaska, Kentucky) There are others.?

Real friends are very hard to come by, I hate my mother, but one thing she did tell me that I find true "if you're lucky you will only probably have a handful(5) of real friends when you are 50"

 

[guest5703]

i waited for about a year....then it came to me!!!

 

[British_Bulldog]

You don't pay for elites, you must know and be friends with people who have them