How I've thwarted drug dogs multiple times, and how you can too!

[Ultra Current]

Cops in my neiborhood pull me over all the time just for being white. No tints or rims or anything like that. Some cops don't give a fuck about the law and I know from personal experience. I got pulled over for no reason and had a good amount of white in the trunk and I refused the search and they still went in my trunk when I told them they can't they said that they smell weed and I never smoke in that car and was clean. He even grabbed dirt off the floor of the car and said it was weed. They were real dirty. I lost that car over that and faced a 5 year mandatory. Another time cops came in and searched my house with no warrant they didn't give a fuck. They didn't find anything and I had 75 plants in a false ceiling that led to another floor. Point is that you have no idea of the cop that you will be dealing with. Some of them will fuck you cause they don't give a shit.

 

[OpenStrife]

Cops in my neiborhood pull me over all the time just for being white. No tints or rims or anything like that. Some cops don't give a fuck about the law and I know from personal experience. I got pulled over for no reason and had a good amount of white in the trunk and I refused the search and they still went in my trunk when I told them they can't they said that they smell weed and I never smoke in that car and was clean. He even grabbed dirt off the floor of the car and said it was weed. They were real dirty. I lost that car over that and faced a 5 year mandatory. Another time cops came in and searched my house with no warrant they didn't give a fuck. They didn't find anything and I had 75 plants in a false ceiling that led to another floor. Point is that you have no idea of the cop that you will be dealing with. Some of them will fuck you cause they don't give a shit.

Exactly. The entire point I'm trying to get across is play on the cops need to feel he is in control. If you seemingly co-operate, but string his emotions along with little games, he will fill he is making all the decisions. It's just like the example I had when you side track him by getting all emotional over a backup .2g of weed you have.

With some comes you may get away with not consenting to a search, but most cops will come up with an excuse. When you don't consent, you almost offend them, putting them in a position where they are not in control, it puts them on guard, on suspicion. Consent but leave them stumped, genuinly have them believing you're perfectly legal, and they'll never lose their sense of power. Being an officer of the law gives them an immense sense of power, if you take that away, you are almost insulting them. The power they have of this sense of being elevated over the law is almost like a drug to them.. take it away and..

I know many people personally who have gotten minor weed charges by trying to tell a cop that they did not consent to a search. The cop found a way, nearly every time.

 

[Ultra Current]

Trust me there were no games being played here. I must have said "sir" 50 times. The guy was an asshole. During my trial I got beaten up real bad and got my head kicked in. Black eye broken nose, lip torn in half up to my nose and the cop came to court and was laughing at me and talking shit. Some cops are just dicks and maybe I remind him from someone when he was a kid.

 

[OpenStrife]

Trust me there were no games being played here. I must have said "sir" 50 times. The guy was an asshole. During my trial I got beaten up real bad and got my head kicked in. Black eye broken nose, lip torn in half up to my nose and the cop came to court and was laughing at me and talking shit. Some cops are just dicks and maybe I remind him from someone when he was a kid.

All I have to say to that is what the fuck. Lip torn in half..? That's fucked up

 

[m314]

I've only been pulled over a few times in 20 years, mostly for small things (speeding, tail light out, not stopping completely at a stop sign). They've never asked to search the car. I would say no just out of principle, but I know that won't matter with a dirty cop. They can just say they smell weed and search the car anyway. If they find something, you're fucked. If they don't find anything, most people will just be happy that it's over and they can go. Cops get away with that stuff all the time. If they do break the law and find weed in the car, who do you think the judge and jury will believe in court? A cop or some pothead? People should fight back somehow, but I don't know how exactly. The people who fight the system seem to end up in jail or dead.

 

[Posternuggbag]

Good stuff OP.. a friend of mine travels with large quantity (lbs mostly) and does something similar with a bag of grocerys vaccum seal and everything.. but puts it in those big 44 lb bags of dog food...that way if the dog is smelling the bag..its dog food! haha

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Mythbusters already did a special. demonstrating that a PROPERLY TRAINED dog--will find it, pretty much no matter what you do-I have an idea about an ozone genny in a compartment-yet to be experimented with.
Dogs dont smell through wrapping, the wrappings allow smell through them over time, also we tranfer smell to the outside of the wrappings by being less than diligent.
I think youve been lucky, I have heard of police having non-trained dogs go in the car-with the officer supervising the dog-as cover for the officer mooching around doing a quick eyeball.
Mythbusters basically tested all these, food, bitch in heat, pepper, wild animal scent, ultrasonics. Epic fail all around.
Nothing , I repeat nothing is taking my Weimaraners attention from his ball when it is in play.
Police train their dogs with distractions, to pass the qualifications to work-the dogs have to discrimnate scents and ignore what they are not looking for and not be distracted by whatever else is going on.
Dogs can smell cancer in human beings, and tell their owners when they are about to have an epileptic fit, the only way I can see to ever defeat them, is do remove any scent molecules from the equation--hence the ozone idea

 

[MissGreenDreamz]

Along similar lines... I've been stuffing joints in to hollow tampon tubes and resealing them with drops of superglue etc. for years to get J's and such in to music venues. Ain't nobody fuckin with my tampons Ain't nobody fuckin' with your lady's tampons either. Whether you have a "lady" or not. I really hope someone is helped out by me sharing this!

 

[Molson]

Nothing , I repeat nothing is taking my Weimaraners attention from his ball when it is in play.
Police train their dogs with distractions, to pass the qualifications to work-the dogs have to discrimnate scents and ignore what they are not looking for and not be distracted by whatever else is going on.

This is what I was trying to get at...

The slackers are cut...

Vacuum bags. 'nough said.

 

[GP73LPC]

here's the mythbusters episode online...

-http://tubeplus.me/player/1767431/MythBusters/season_8/episode_18/Hair_of_the_Dog


remove the dash and copy/paste ^^^

 

[kifmaster]

Get a new lawyer!

Get a new lawyer!

Get a new lawyer. Ever heard the saying possession is 9/10 of the law?

You can't beat a possession case by implicating yourself in a conspiracy to traffic...

You guys are also making the assumption these dogs wont false alert. Nearly every time a dog is called it alerts whether there is something or not.

My cousin is a K9 unit officer. At least around here, they don't train dogs in the prescense of piss, or to ignore the piss.

If the piss smell is all around the exterior of your car, and on stuff in the interior, it will distract the dog. The dog will think there is a live animal around. This concern will top the concern of his nonliving toy. A good way to think is that, think of drug dogs as mentally deficient dogs. That's why they run into walls and shit when tracking down there toy. They are easily distracted.





I didn't think about that. It could also take the liability off you, possibly, if you can do it securely and carefully enough.

I also talked to my lawyer today and found out that if you have Mail in your car with illegal goods in it, and the officer finds it, the owner of the mail is liable. So if the mail is not in your name and you didn't know what was in there, then you're good. Coming up with why you have the mail is another part, easy to come up with an excuse, maybe it got sent to your address by mistake, or you have a business and pick up mail for your employees, etc.

 

[mrcreosote]

"Ah...buddy, what's with the tampons?"

"Umm...Earplugs, in case the music gets too loud?"

 

[Bionic]

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/8634

 

[paladin420]

"Ah...buddy, what's with the tampons?"

"Umm...Earplugs, in case the music gets too loud?"

I'm a boy scout.. Be prepared.. Chicks will love you for it. And real men don't care what time of the month it is.. Also work well to plug up bullet holes... I always hav some around

 

[paladin420]

Op not to be a dick ,but you are wrong..the infromation you are passin out is dangerously wrong..you 'twarted' the handler at best..not a properly trained K9 team...I will stop there.

 

[KONY]

Are you saying I've only been pulled over 4/4 times and I've been dog searched each of those times?

Some circumstances you can only control so much man.

In the past years, I have been pulled and attempted to be searched hundreds of times....

Man that says alot. You must really suck at driving or drive like a little kid.

 

[mad librettist]

Man that says alot. You must really suck at driving or drive like a little kid.

In the past 15 years I have been pulled over one time, for speeding.


My method is not about playing a cop like a puppet, which to be perfectly honest, is just you underestimating your opponent.

My more subtle method for avoiding LEO's is the "answered question" approach. When he sees you, a LEO is going to ask "who is this person, and where is he going, and what is he doing?"

If those questions have obvious answers, you are more likely to be passed over regardless of you "profile". Surfboard on top? You are easy to summarize. Van full of band equipment? Again your summary is easy to write. Dog in the car? You are taking your dog to the park. You have an obvious story.

However, if you have been careful to look "neutral" or "formal", and forgot to tell a story with your appearance, you have projected questions instead of answers, and you are worth checking out further. Your story also needs to be true, e.g. no driving around with a car full of clean fishing gear.

 

[dagnabit]

If you say you have gotten away with this, awesome!
However, I have owned and trained a good # of dogs.
None of mine would be deceived by this.
Hunting dogs, blind guide dogs ect. would not be able to focus .
Vacu. sealing probably saved you.

Also, while the chippy thing is pretty good, I would be concerned about charges of product tampering if detected.

QFT...
deer pee will not distract a well trained dog.

it sounds good and all but a properly trained dog ignores superfluous stimulation.

 

[dagnabit]

I'm a boy scout.. Be prepared.. Chicks will love you for it. And real men don't care what time of the month it is.. Also work well to plug up bullet holes... I always hav some around

no sir no MJ in these tampons..

i use 'em to plug my nose when i do to much blow and it bleeds...

 

[JJScorpio]

I guess this has gone on long enough. If someone wants to read it to "get a laugh", that's cool, but I'd suggest no one take anything here as fact or that it would work.

You've been pulled over hundreds of times huh? Who do you expect to believe this? Now for some facts.

I've had many well trained dogs over the years. And deer urine would never have distracted any of them. And for your information most of these dogs are trained while using fresh urine from a bitch in full heat. There's nothing stonger than that to preoccupy a dog. Male or female. Most of these dogs being used today have had a minimum of two years of hard training. Most longer than that. This is after they have reached maturity. And only a small percentage make the cut. And they are trained for specific thing. Some for drugs, some for tracking, some for cadavers and so on.

I don't like calling anyone out, but I can't take the chance someone might think they were safe in following what you claim to be fact......

Are you saying I've only been pulled over 4/4 times and I've been dog searched each of those times?

Some circumstances you can only control so much man.

In the past years, I have been pulled and attempted to be searched hundreds of times. MANY times with bud, large quantities. I have never gotten a bud charge, ever. My record is actually perfectly clean. I'm just consider myself super good at circumventing the law. I wont reveal an exact time frame I have been clean like this, I don't want to reveal my age.

You can come up with all sorts of ways to prevent an officer from searching your car, for example by rejecting a search when he ask etc. The problem with all these methods is they never teach you to think about the mindset of the cop.

Your primary goal in circumventing a LEO should be controlling him like a puppet, predicting how he is going to think in each state of mind he is in, which is dependent upon how you are responding.

You have his attention, he will respond to whatever you do. People you can't control are people who are non responsive. The cop is willfully placing himself in a situation where he is giving you his attention, and he will respond to the situations you project into his experience of reality. You control him, if you have his attention.

Too bad many people don't think like this, it's the true way to get out of any LEO encounter. While it may be rather deceptive and manipulative. It protects me from being proscecuted over senseless drug laws that do nothing but give jobs to federalies.