How educated are ICMaggers?

[TychoMonolyth]

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The best education I had was travelling the world for decades - thru over 50 countries and many cultures - studying them - and living within them - and even to this day I am still keen to learn - and spend most of my days researching all sorts of subjects - even though I am 58 years old now - you are never too old to learn.

Yep. The first time I visited an emerging country I thought "what a shit hole." But I just didn't get it. People were happy friendly, and generous beyond belief. It didn't take me long to "get it". I have a home there now and spend a couple months a year there.

Life is more than TV, Kraft Dinner and office buildings.

 

[Hydro8]

I lived in a wealthy college town Boulder CO for years. So many rich kids go to school for years and years and at 30-40yrs old they are idiots.. They know philosophy, political science, classic literature but if they had to go out into the work force they would be washing dishes.

One of the common things I would hear there is "poor people just need to be educated" from rich kids who have never earned a living before. Years of "education" and they have no clue.

 

[Teddybrae]

Stories?! Fuck, have I got stories? I 've got stories about how smart and comfortable I am coming out of my asshole!

Years and years of stories. I am so educated I am clever and classless and free, not.

No, it's useless ... my head's so swelled up I can't fit inside this thread!

 

[Iamnumber]

Hello girls and guys.. few notes from the other side of the pond (europe)


We have a quite good public education system.. biggest flaw (in early stages) is that talent is not nurtured but talented kids just have to sit there as the classes go by at designed schedule.. and schedule/ speed is designed so that 95% of kids can cope with it..



Education and schooling is extremely important IF we wish to prevent/ slow the development of hereditary (? I mean that blue collar workers kid will be blue collar worker) social classes. It has to be available also in practical life .. which means that price of education must be low enough so that kids from lower income families have a real chance of pursuing that paht. Also it is one major key in breaking the crime renewal cycle .. we do have many workshops (and education) in our prisons so there is a major element to reform .. much much more so than in US .. and statistics do back this up (that it works).. naturally.. our societies are different which plays a major role..


Money wise.. Higher education (here) is not necessarily a best path as it takes several more years before one gets a degree and a job - during this time guy who went to secondary education for a profession has been working and earning a paycheck. .. Again .. different society here.. taxes for high income are much higher here than in US (as far as I know it .. and I did some checking several years back) .. also the top notch professions pay a lot less here than in US.


I personally broke the social barrier .. Our education system DID make it A LOT easier ..





PS .. any people out there wishing to have a higher education (in English) at bargain prices AND willing& able to relocate to another country .. pm me..


PPS .. we do have our share of Siht in our society.. it is bit different than siht in others and it is buried fairly deep so short term visitors don't see it.. but it is there..

 

[CaptainDankness]

I lived in a wealthy college town Boulder CO for years. So many rich kids go to school for years and years and at 30-40yrs old they are idiots.. They know philosophy, political science, classic literature but if they had to go out into the work force they would be washing dishes.

One of the common things I would hear there is "poor people just need to be educated" from rich kids who have never earned a living before. Years of "education" and they have no clue.

Yeah college don't mean shit really. I know an electrician, dumbest guy I know that's not retarded. Lol, also know one guy who went to Harvard for marine biology passed and all but ended up working for his father as a plumber makes good money, just all that ivy league college for nothing.

I also know a realtor that works bullshit around minimum wage jobs of course she was a junky.

I know plenty of people who have a decent business going on and non of them have been to college, really the college loans prevent you from starting a business. I got an uncle with a PHD he only makes $50k a year and he's still paying off his student loans at about 54 years old. I actually make more money and have no debt and best I got is a GED. Lol

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I lived in a wealthy college town Boulder CO for years. So many rich kids go to school for years and years and at 30-40yrs old they are idiots.. They know philosophy, political science, classic literature but if they had to go out into the work force they would be washing dishes.

One of the common things I would hear there is "poor people just need to be educated" from rich kids who have never earned a living before. Years of "education" and they have no clue.

Poverty breeds crime, and an education is the only way to beat it.

Everyone says we all have the same opportunities. Well they're wrong. We were poor as fuck, but we had books in the house. None of my friends had them. We had 3 rules in the house. 1. Take a bath. 2. Be home for dinner (you'd better not fucking miss it), and 3. You have to be reading a book because you're going to be asked about it. But that was easy in a poor farmhouse with only 2 english and 1 french black and white TV channels. lol.

 

[Hydro8]

Yeah college don't mean shit really. I know an electrician, dumbest guy I know that's not retarded. Lol, also know one guy who went to Harvard for marine biology passed and all but ended up working for his father as a plumber makes good money, just all that ivy league college for nothing.

I also know a realtor that works bullshit around minimum wage jobs of course she was a junky.

I know plenty of people who have a decent business going on and non of them have been to college, really the college loans prevent you from starting a business. I got an uncle with a PHD he only makes $50k a year and he's still paying off his student loans at about 54 years old. I actually make more money and have no debt and best I got is a GED. Lol

I know a couple of school teachers making 40k a yr with $100,000 of student loans, $1000. a month in loan payments, Poverty.
I worked with a guy with a masters in philosophy I ask him what he was doing on a construction site ? He said he looked for a job for 4 years and got one offer at a community college in the ghetto of Pittsburgh for a poverty wage.
I know a chemical engineer that made 6 figures for 2 years now they make 50k as a math teacher. How many chemical engineer jobs are out there ?

Many realtors went bust after 2008, What now ? retail ?


I do also know successful people that have stellar jobs due to their education. Education is a foot up but not a guaranteed success for sure.

Poverty breeds crime, and an education is the only way to beat it.

Everyone says we all have the same opportunities. Well they're wrong. We were poor as fuck, but we had books in the house. None of my friends had them. We had 3 rules in the house. 1. Take a bath. 2. Be home for dinner (you'd better not fucking miss it), and 3. You have to be reading a book because you're going to be asked about it. But that was easy in a poor farmhouse with only 2 english and 1 french black and white TV channels. lol.

Poverty is a complex dynamic. I have seen very educated societies become crime ridden hell holes in months over trade embargo and economic sanctions. They had the education but when the money was taken out of the society it crumbled. There is only so much wealth in a society when it has a lot crime goes down. When people get hungry they do desperate things, dogs turn into wolves. When broke people sit around all day they are much more prone to commit crimes.

I do agree on the importance of education. All of my kids got library cards at 5 years old or younger and I thought them to learn and study. Now they are smarter then me. Lol

Not everyone has the same opportunities.. I know tons of bright kids that cannot afford to sit in college, they had to join “the work force”.

 

[xavier7995]

Oddly weed was a motivator for higher education for me. First time hitting up Amsterdam was pretty exceptional and i was hooked on the idea of moving there. I never expected the US to open up the way it has for weed, i was determined to be able to go where i wanted and do what i wanted in life, so opted to go to grad school (mba)and study finance. Hindsight is 20/20 and i should have done something else but here we are. I sort of agree with shithawks take, there just isnt nearly as much opportunity out there today as existed 30-40 years ago, it is what it is. Hard work, being smart, etc. just doesnt count for much anymore, i have repeatedly seen those people get passed over for a variety of factors. It has me to the point that i am trying to get out of the corporate world and start a business of some sort.

But anywho, i am a big fan of education and going off to college. I wish i had studied something a bit more rewarding/interesting, but i was focused on being employable when i got done.