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ANYONE WHO USES THIS METHOD TO MAKE OIL IS POISONING THEMSELVES!!!

I urge you to do a search and never use denatured alcohol, there is a very poisonous ketone added to denatured alcohol, a ketone is an oil, hence it mix's with your thc oil and has no scent or taste, yet you are poisoning people with your dirty product.
You may not feel sick now, but years down the road, the accumulated effects add up.

Lazyman - Methyl Isobutyl Ketone will not evaporate and this is a very poisonous substance
go ahead and kill yourself, but do not tell others SLX is good to use when it is in FACT a POISON!!!

Denatured Alcohol MSDS

1. Product Identification
Synonyms: Denatured Alcohol; Denatured Ethanol; Proprietary Solvent III-1
CAS No.: Not applicable to mixtures.
Molecular Weight: Not applicable to mixtures.
Chemical Formula: Not applicable to mixtures.
Product Codes:


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2. Composition/Information on Ingredients
Ingredient CAS No Percent Hazardous
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Ethyl Alcohol 64-17-5 91 - 93% Yes
Ethyl Acetate 141-78-6 1% Yes
Methyl Isobutyl Ketone 108-10-1 1% Yes
Gasoline 8006-61-9 1% Yes
Methyl Alcohol 67-56-1 4 - 6% Yes


3. Hazards Identification
Emergency Overview
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POISON! DANGER! VAPOR HARMFUL. MAY BE FATAL OR CAUSE BLINDNESS IF SWALLOWED. CANNOT BE MADE NONPOISONOUS. HARMFUL IF INHALED OR ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. FLAMMABLE LIQUID AND VAPOR. AFFECTS CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM. CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. MAY AFFECT LIVER, BLOOD, KIDNEYS, GASTROINTESTINAL TRACT AND REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM.

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Health Rating: 3 - Severe (Poison)
Flammability Rating: 4 - Extreme (Flammable)
Reactivity Rating: 2 - Moderate
Contact Rating: 2 - Moderate
Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES & SHIELD; LAB COAT & APRON; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES; CLASS B EXTINGUISHER
Storage Color Code: Red (Flammable)
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Potential Health Effects
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Inhalation:
Causes irritation to the respiratory tract. Symptoms may include coughing, shortness of breath. Prolonged exposures to high concentration may cause drowsiness, loss of appetite, and inability to concentrate.
Ingestion:
Cause headaches, gastritis, intoxication, blindness and, in acute cases, death.
Skin Contact:
Causes skin irritation, cracking or flaking due to dehydration and defatting action.
Eye Contact:
Can cause eye irritation. Splashes may cause temporary pain and blurred vision.
Chronic Exposure:
Prolonged skin contact causes drying and cracking of skin. May affect the nervous system, liver, kidneys, blood, g.i. tract and reproductive system. Continued ingestion of small amounts could result in blindness.
Aggravation of Pre-existing Conditions:
Persons with pre-existing skin disorders or eye problems or impaired liver or kidney function may be more susceptible to the effects of the substance.


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4. First Aid Measures
Inhalation:
Remove to fresh air. If not breathing, give artificial respiration. If breathing is difficult, give oxygen. Get medical attention.
Ingestion:
Induce vomiting immediately as directed by medical personnel. Never give anything by mouth to an unconscious person. Get medical attention immediately.
Skin Contact:
Immediately flush skin with plenty of water for at least 15 minutes while removing contaminated clothing and shoes. Get medical attention. Wash clothing before reuse. Thoroughly clean shoes before reuse.
Eye Contact:
Immediately flush eyes with plenty of water for at least 15 minutes, lifting lower and upper eyelids occasionally. Get medical attention immediately.



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5. Fire Fighting Measures
Fire:
Flash point: 13C (55F) CC
Autoignition temperature: 463C (865F)
Flammable limits in air % by volume:
lel: 3.3; uel: 19.0
Flammable liquid and vapor!
Dangerous fire hazard when exposed to heat or flame.
Explosion:
Above flash point, vapor-air mixtures are explosive within flammable limits noted above. Vapors can flow along surfaces to distant ignition source and flash back. Sealed containers may rupture when heated.
Fire Extinguishing Media:
Water spray, dry chemical, alcohol foam, or carbon dioxide. Water may be ineffective.
Special Information:
In the event of a fire, wear full protective clothing and NIOSH-approved self-contained breathing apparatus with full facepiece operated in the pressure demand or other positive pressure mode. Water spray can be used to extinguish fires and cool fire-exposed containers. Water may be used to flush spills away from exposures and to dilute spills to non-flammable mixtures.


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6. Accidental Release Measures
Ventilate area of leak or spill. Remove all sources of ignition. Wear appropriate personal protective equipment as specified in Section 8. Isolate hazard area. Keep unnecessary and unprotected personnel from entering. Contain and recover liquid when possible. Use non-sparking tools and equipment. Collect liquid in an appropriate container or absorb with an inert material (e. g., vermiculite, dry sand, earth), and place in a chemical waste container. Do not use combustible materials, such as saw dust. Do not flush to sewer! US Regulations (CERCLA) require reporting spills and releases to soil, water and air in excess of reportable quantities. The toll free number for the US Coast Guard National Response Center is (800) 424-8802.


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7. Handling and Storage
Protect against physical damage. Store in a cool, dry well-ventilated location, away from any area where the fire hazard may be acute. Outside or detached storage is preferred. Separate from incompatibles. Containers should be bonded and grounded for transfers to avoid static sparks. Storage and use areas should be No Smoking areas. Use non-sparking type tools and equipment, including explosion proof ventilation. Containers of this material may be hazardous when empty since they retain product residues (vapors, liquid); observe all warnings and precautions listed for the product. Do Not attempt to clean empty containers since residue is difficult to remove. Do not pressurize, cut, weld, braze, solder, drill, grind or expose such containers to heat, sparks, flame, static electricity or other sources of ignition: they may explode and cause injury or death.


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8. Exposure Controls/Personal Protection
Airborne Exposure Limits:
- OSHA Permissible Exposure Limit (PEL):
ethyl alcohol = 1000 ppm (TWA);
methyl alcohol = 200 ppm;
ethyl acetate = 400 ppm (TWA);
methyl isobutyl ketone = 100 ppm.

- ACGIH Threshold Limit Value (TLV):
ethyl alcohol = 1000 ppm (TWA);
methyl alcohol = 200 ppm (TWA), 250 ppm (STEL);
ethyl acetate = 400 ppm (TWA);
methyl isobutyl ketone = 50 ppm (TWA), 75 ppm (STEL);
gasoline = 300 ppm (TWA), 500 ppm (STEL), A3 - animal carcinogen.

Ventilation System:
A system of local and/or general exhaust is recommended to keep employee exposures below the Airborne Exposure Limits. Local exhaust ventilation is generally preferred because it can control the emissions of the contaminant at its source, preventing dispersion of it into the general work area. Please refer to the ACGIH document, Industrial Ventilation, A Manual of Recommended Practices, most recent edition, for details.
Personal Respirators (NIOSH Approved):
If the exposure limit is exceeded, wear a supplied air, full-facepiece respirator, airlined hood, or full-facepiece self-contained breathing apparatus.
Skin Protection:
Wear impervious protective clothing, including boots, gloves, lab coat, apron or coveralls, as appropriate, to prevent skin contact.
Eye Protection:
Use chemical safety goggles and/or a full face shield where splashing is possible. Maintain eye wash fountain and quick-drench facilities in work area.
 

Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.
Veteran
ANYONE WHO USES THIS METHOD TO MAKE OIL IS POISONING THEMSELVES!!!

I urge you to do a search and never use denatured alcohol, there is a very poisonous ketone added to denatured alcohol, a ketone is an oil, hence it mix's with your thc oil and has no scent or taste, yet you are poisoning people with your dirty product.
You may not feel sick now, but years down the road, the accumulated effects add up.

Lazyman - Methyl Isobutyl Ketone will not evaporate and this is a very poisonous substance
go ahead and kill yourself, but do not tell others SLX is good to use when it is in FACT a POISON!!!

Denatured Alcohol MSDS

1. Product Identification
Synonyms: Denatured Alcohol; Denatured Ethanol; Proprietary Solvent III-1
CAS No.: Not applicable to mixtures.
Molecular Weight: Not applicable to mixtures.
Chemical Formula: Not applicable to mixtures.
Product Codes:


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2. Composition/Information on Ingredients
Ingredient CAS No Percent Hazardous
--------------------------------------- ------------ ------------ ---------
Ethyl Alcohol 64-17-5 91 - 93% Yes
Ethyl Acetate 141-78-6 1% Yes
Methyl Isobutyl Ketone 108-10-1 1% Yes
Gasoline 8006-61-9 1% Yes
Methyl Alcohol 67-56-1 4 - 6% Yes


3. Hazards Identification
Emergency Overview
--------------------------
POISON! DANGER! VAPOR HARMFUL. MAY BE FATAL OR CAUSE BLINDNESS IF SWALLOWED. CANNOT BE MADE NONPOISONOUS. HARMFUL IF INHALED OR ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. FLAMMABLE LIQUID AND VAPOR. AFFECTS CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM. CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. MAY AFFECT LIVER, BLOOD, KIDNEYS, GASTROINTESTINAL TRACT AND REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM.

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Health Rating: 3 - Severe (Poison)
Flammability Rating: 4 - Extreme (Flammable)
Reactivity Rating: 2 - Moderate
Contact Rating: 2 - Moderate
Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES & SHIELD; LAB COAT & APRON; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES; CLASS B EXTINGUISHER
Storage Color Code: Red (Flammable)
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Potential Health Effects
----------------------------------

Inhalation:
Causes irritation to the respiratory tract. Symptoms may include coughing, shortness of breath. Prolonged exposures to high concentration may cause drowsiness, loss of appetite, and inability to concentrate.
Ingestion:
Cause headaches, gastritis, intoxication, blindness and, in acute cases, death.
Skin Contact:
Causes skin irritation, cracking or flaking due to dehydration and defatting action.
Eye Contact:
Can cause eye irritation. Splashes may cause temporary pain and blurred vision.
Chronic Exposure:
Prolonged skin contact causes drying and cracking of skin. May affect the nervous system, liver, kidneys, blood, g.i. tract and reproductive system. Continued ingestion of small amounts could result in blindness.
Aggravation of Pre-existing Conditions:
Persons with pre-existing skin disorders or eye problems or impaired liver or kidney function may be more susceptible to the effects of the substance.


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4. First Aid Measures
Inhalation:
Remove to fresh air. If not breathing, give artificial respiration. If breathing is difficult, give oxygen. Get medical attention.
Ingestion:
Induce vomiting immediately as directed by medical personnel. Never give anything by mouth to an unconscious person. Get medical attention immediately.
Skin Contact:
Immediately flush skin with plenty of water for at least 15 minutes while removing contaminated clothing and shoes. Get medical attention. Wash clothing before reuse. Thoroughly clean shoes before reuse.
Eye Contact:
Immediately flush eyes with plenty of water for at least 15 minutes, lifting lower and upper eyelids occasionally. Get medical attention immediately.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

5. Fire Fighting Measures
Fire:
Flash point: 13C (55F) CC
Autoignition temperature: 463C (865F)
Flammable limits in air % by volume:
lel: 3.3; uel: 19.0
Flammable liquid and vapor!
Dangerous fire hazard when exposed to heat or flame.
Explosion:
Above flash point, vapor-air mixtures are explosive within flammable limits noted above. Vapors can flow along surfaces to distant ignition source and flash back. Sealed containers may rupture when heated.
Fire Extinguishing Media:
Water spray, dry chemical, alcohol foam, or carbon dioxide. Water may be ineffective.
Special Information:
In the event of a fire, wear full protective clothing and NIOSH-approved self-contained breathing apparatus with full facepiece operated in the pressure demand or other positive pressure mode. Water spray can be used to extinguish fires and cool fire-exposed containers. Water may be used to flush spills away from exposures and to dilute spills to non-flammable mixtures.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

6. Accidental Release Measures
Ventilate area of leak or spill. Remove all sources of ignition. Wear appropriate personal protective equipment as specified in Section 8. Isolate hazard area. Keep unnecessary and unprotected personnel from entering. Contain and recover liquid when possible. Use non-sparking tools and equipment. Collect liquid in an appropriate container or absorb with an inert material (e. g., vermiculite, dry sand, earth), and place in a chemical waste container. Do not use combustible materials, such as saw dust. Do not flush to sewer! US Regulations (CERCLA) require reporting spills and releases to soil, water and air in excess of reportable quantities. The toll free number for the US Coast Guard National Response Center is (800) 424-8802.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

7. Handling and Storage
Protect against physical damage. Store in a cool, dry well-ventilated location, away from any area where the fire hazard may be acute. Outside or detached storage is preferred. Separate from incompatibles. Containers should be bonded and grounded for transfers to avoid static sparks. Storage and use areas should be No Smoking areas. Use non-sparking type tools and equipment, including explosion proof ventilation. Containers of this material may be hazardous when empty since they retain product residues (vapors, liquid); observe all warnings and precautions listed for the product. Do Not attempt to clean empty containers since residue is difficult to remove. Do not pressurize, cut, weld, braze, solder, drill, grind or expose such containers to heat, sparks, flame, static electricity or other sources of ignition: they may explode and cause injury or death.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

8. Exposure Controls/Personal Protection
Airborne Exposure Limits:
- OSHA Permissible Exposure Limit (PEL):
ethyl alcohol = 1000 ppm (TWA);
methyl alcohol = 200 ppm;
ethyl acetate = 400 ppm (TWA);
methyl isobutyl ketone = 100 ppm.

- ACGIH Threshold Limit Value (TLV):
ethyl alcohol = 1000 ppm (TWA);
methyl alcohol = 200 ppm (TWA), 250 ppm (STEL);
ethyl acetate = 400 ppm (TWA);
methyl isobutyl ketone = 50 ppm (TWA), 75 ppm (STEL);
gasoline = 300 ppm (TWA), 500 ppm (STEL), A3 - animal carcinogen.

Ventilation System:
A system of local and/or general exhaust is recommended to keep employee exposures below the Airborne Exposure Limits. Local exhaust ventilation is generally preferred because it can control the emissions of the contaminant at its source, preventing dispersion of it into the general work area. Please refer to the ACGIH document, Industrial Ventilation, A Manual of Recommended Practices, most recent edition, for details.
Personal Respirators (NIOSH Approved):
If the exposure limit is exceeded, wear a supplied air, full-facepiece respirator, airlined hood, or full-facepiece self-contained breathing apparatus.
Skin Protection:
Wear impervious protective clothing, including boots, gloves, lab coat, apron or coveralls, as appropriate, to prevent skin contact.
Eye Protection:
Use chemical safety goggles and/or a full face shield where splashing is possible. Maintain eye wash fountain and quick-drench facilities in work area.


For alcohol:

5. Fire Fighting Measures
Fire:
Flash point: 13C (55F) CC"

MIK evaporates at 244*F, so it would be the last thing left. Ten minutes in the oven at 250* should remove the 1-4 % MIK that's left, but I would have noticed if a 1-4% liquid remained in my hash, that would be a significant amount of liquid. I've evaporated off GALLONS of this stuff in an oven, 4 gallons of SLX would yield at least 5 ounces of MIK, which would be noticeable.

The alcohols (methanol and ethanol) both have a low boiling point, in the case of SLX it's 147*F.

Again, evaporate some of this "poison" yourself on a piece of glass for a couple days, or in a 200*F oven. Nothing will remain.
 
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Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.
Veteran
BTW< here is the MSDS for the actual SLX alcohol product, it is 45-50% methanol, and 45-50% denatured alcohol (mostly ethanol, and 1-5% methanol, and 1-5% MIK). Still, they list 241*F as the upper boiling point: http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/msds/605435.pdf According to wikipedia, MIK has a flash point of 57.2 * F.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_isobutyl_ketone

If you don't have the ability to heat your mix, it would be wise to use isopropyl alcohol instead. I'll continue to use SLX as i can evaporate off all of its ingredients easily.
 

Texicannibus

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When I checked the one I used the msds said >1% wich is less than 1%... not that its a huge difference. Im probably going to be switching to SLX since its got a better ratio of ethenol/methenol
 

G.O. Joe

Well-known member
Veteran
I've evaporated off GALLONS of this stuff in an oven

BTW< here is the MSDS for the actual SLX alcohol product, it is 45-50% methanol, and 45-50% denatured alcohol (mostly ethanol, and 1-5% methanol, and 1-5% MIK).

There must have been very good ventilation.

You people are getting the dangers all wrong. The problem isn't in the residues it's in the evaporation. Hazard summary:

Methylene chloride: not flammable or particularly toxic.
Everything else: very flammable.
Butane, hexane, heptane, petroleum ether: nearly inert.
Toluene: slightly less inert.
Ethanol: ethanol.
Ketones and esters: more likely to get you high than kill you.
Methanol: deadly toxic or worse.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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omg after reading the rest of this, i am just sticking with bubble, and dry sift. too confusing
 

B. Friendly

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this method was used by a dispensary that got the receipe from a doctor some type of specialist i thought. The amount of anything harmful is so minor it's not worth thinking about to me.
Not to mention how small of a toke i take of BHO compared to the many more tokes i will take from a joint to get as high. In a day of Bho compared to joints i am taking in much less smoke with bho. so we gotta take all factors into consideration
 
you can take any alcoholic beverage and distill it into 99.99% alcohol look up how to make a homade reflux apparatus and how it works or with a little $$ you could pick up some science lab equipment and get a real reflux apparatus and use that to not only make pure alcohol or other solevants like iso but also your hash oil itself. then you have absolutely no health risks exept if you blow your stupid ass up for not following simple instructions (natural selection in my opinion)
 

kilacaLIbud

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wooooo hoooo i love this thread been like 4-5 years since i made this and still goin strong at least some of u people have tried and not talked s*** !!!! MAKE OIL !!!! F*** THE BUTANE>> I DONT EVEN uSE THAT S*** TO LIGHT MY BOWL ANY MORE >>> HEMP WICK OR BEELINE FTW:thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you::thank you:

jk jk butane is good.. if HM cut makes it :)
 

Scrogerman

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Howe did i miss this one, gonna have to give it a whirl, Cheers Bro! De-Natured Alco Wash Super Pooey Gooey Oil it is then! How many peeps have tried this fierce looking Oilage then!??
 

Gray Wolf

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Howe did i miss this one, gonna have to give it a whirl, Cheers Bro! De-Natured Alco Wash Super Pooey Gooey Oil it is then! How many peeps have tried this fierce looking Oilage then!??

I have enough times to know that the less selective methanol extracts undesirable things that an ethanol extraction leaves behind.

I find however, that if I redissolve the denatured alcohol extract in 190 proof ethanol, that many of those undesirable things will precipitate out. By chilling in the freezer and then decanting and filtering, I end up with a more pristine extract after subsequent distillation.

Denatured costs us about $10 a gallon, while 190 proof ethanol costs about $78 a gallon with drinking alcohol taxes. Using the 190 proof in smaller quantities to clean up the denatured extraction is a more ecconomical use of it.
 

Scrogerman

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Great Info GreyWolf, ima gonna have to knock some of this stuff up next time i have a load of trim n Popcorn. Cheeers & Good Luck!!!! ;)
 

kilacaLIbud

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you can take any alcoholic beverage and distill it into 99.99% alcohol look up how to make a homade reflux apparatus and how it works or with a little $$ you could pick up some science lab equipment and get a real reflux apparatus and use that to not only make pure alcohol or other solevants like iso but also your hash oil itself. then you have absolutely no health risks exept if you blow your stupid ass up for not following simple instructions (natural selection in my opinion)



this is how it was orj made in norcal med club back in "00" and the 90's .. i just did this for a homemade version

heres a fun fact.. if ur worried about methanol

Methanol is a by-product of fermentation; more methanol is produced in fruit fermentation than in grains. Brewers do not remove the methanol in beer and wine because methanol is not especially toxic at low concentrations. You are looking at between 0.4%-1% methanol in wines and brandies and smaller amounts in beers. Distillers remove almost all the methanol in most cases. Ever notice how vodka produces clean hangovers and wines (particularly reds) give you very nasty hangovers? Methanol. That, and dehydration!

The fatal dose of methanol is 60 to 250 mL. Death depends on the size of the individual, their general health and stomach contents. The exposure limit is 200ppm. The highly lethal nature of methanol (compared to ethanol) has not been fully researched, but it is believed to be the result of the byproducts of metabolism, which turn methanol into formic acid and formaldehyde, and formaldehyde has been proven to have selective injurious effects on retal cells- this is the reason for it's ability to cause blindness.

Antidote: Give ethanol, 50%, 1.5ml per kilo of body weight, orally, diluted to no more than a 5% solution, followed by 0.5-1ml/kg every 2 hours orally for 4 days. ethanol interferes with the absorbtion of methanol by the body and allows it to be excreted with less damaging effects. Also give up to 4 litres of water daily to maintain adequate urine output. Control delirium by giving 10mg valium slowly by injection in order to prevent respiratory depression.
 

kilacaLIbud

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ive read your hexane extraction grey wolf and impressed with your set up.. i posted this when these were the two methods i knew of extraction... but i did not want to give out the hexane .. now 7 years later .. if u took a week of a chemistry lab u would know that hexane is the choice of extraction.. also over bho .. .. hexane is used to extract cooking oils from seeds .. and also used to extract oil from contaminated soil for analsys ... ive been doin only hexane extraction since 05
 

Gray Wolf

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ive read your hexane extraction grey wolf and impressed with your set up.. i posted this when these were the two methods i knew of extraction... but i did not want to give out the hexane .. now 7 years later .. if u took a week of a chemistry lab u would know that hexane is the choice of extraction.. also over bho .. .. hexane is used to extract cooking oils from seeds .. and also used to extract oil from contaminated soil for analsys ... ive been doin only hexane extraction since 05

Hexane certainly produces a purdy extraction but is relatively expensive in these parts, so we mostly use it to clean up other extractions and for alchemy.

It is also the most difficult to fully purge, of any of our extraction methods.

Denatured is the cheapest method we've found, aside from our dirt cheap butane recycle system, and is easily made pristine with Hexane alchemy.

We use denatured to extract stems and fan leaves for topical, and clean it up some by winterizing in ethanol, which is less agressive.

I'm thinking that it's all good, in its place and time.
 

kilacaLIbud

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Hexane certainly produces a purdy extraction but is relatively expensive in these parts, so we mostly use it to clean up other extractions and for alchemy.

It is also the most difficult to fully purge, of any of our extraction methods.

Denatured is the cheapest method we've found, aside from our dirt cheap butane recycle system, and is easily made pristine with Hexane alchemy.

We use denatured to extract stems and fan leaves for topical, and clean it up some by winterizing in ethanol, which is less agressive.

I'm thinking that it's all good, in its place and time.


in my experiance.. hexane is much better then butane.. . the final product is much differant..

my hexane get rock hard and turns into rock candy like substance and bubbles when u burn like a fine resin...

bho on the other hand .. seems to burn and bubble up like soap.. \

i dunno what the acual reason for these 2 non polar substances to make 2 completely diff oils..

next week im sending my hexane and bho oil off to get analyzed through gas chromotography and we will see ..


and as for denatured.. is tottaly differant .. denatured never acually hardens up it stays in a tar/molases state forever.. and the high is altogeather differant ... i had this thread up before rick simpson even thought about helpin people make ol
:thank you::thank you:
 
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