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HERIJUANA

RoyalFlush

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BINGO! Steve never passed out seeds of her*juana. He passed out F1's of the original cross between the Kentucky Sativa (Killer New Haven, named after the fact), and Petrolia Headstash (the old afghan, also named after the fact).

The people with those seeds then took it upon themselves to work with those genetics and selectively breed it to be more on the indica afghan side, hence now a days you hear reports of it having a bland taste.

They did kind of the opposite of what Skunkman did to Skunk #1. If you recall, Sam bred Skunk #1 to be more sweet, because at the time he was smoking a lot of hazes, and he loves hazes, and he preferred the sweeter taste and smell and effects of what we know today as Skunk #1. He selectively bred out the afghan narcotic high because he didn't like it.

The people who recieved F1 hybrid seeds of the original cross selectively bred for indica knockout bland tasting stony bud.

This was confirmed by Woodhorse (again, Reeferman and Meduser's old co.) and then once Motarebel got those seeds that had already been worked on by Woodhorse, he continued to selectively breed for indica traits. When he got into his legal trouble, he gave what he was working on to the guy who can't be mentioned who now sells seeds. That person further inbred the plants and again selected for more indica dominance.

Luckily the real Steve Tuck herojuana/herijuana will be back.

Without sounding self-entitled, I do firmly believe I deserve some sort of "thank you" or "oh, thank you for clearing things up", or "sorry for not believing you" by the negative ones who came at me on attack mode.

This is an old thread. The only reason I put my input in to begin with is because as I've stated Steve is a personal friend of mine, and I know the story. Let the lies die.

You mean the same Steve tuck that tried to take some credit for the creation of OG kush?
 

englishrick

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Is there a Steve cut?,, if he sent out a cut that ruled all that would woq be in itself the main point,, wouldn't it,, i love samS early sk1 but the later stuff really didn't improve on it in terms of quality,, it kinda went down hill as people in cross,,,

I guess my real focus is not who made it just yet but is it there a cut good enough to keep in my stable,, i imagine only the oqldes stuff will suit my pallet for flavour as I believe the secondarily metabolites are the first to be lost by bad breeding habits,, so basically I'm a relic hunter,, who's got them fukin relics, this is what I'm interested in atm
 

tetragrammaton

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You mean the same Steve tuck that tried to take some credit for the creation of OG kush?

Steve Tuck NEVER tried to take credit for OG Kush. He did however claim that the OG stood for Over Grow (the forums) which is not the case. As far as creating OG, no, he has always remained firm in that it's surrounded by mystery. He has theories of what's in it, but will be doing DNA tests on it to know for sure. It is not his cup of tea either.

He does believe that it contains some of his genetics as well as other breeders genetics in it, but again, will wait on DNA results but OG Kush is of little interest to him, although he respects it in that it breeds pretty true and is good in crosses.
 

tetragrammaton

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Oooof,,, that's a big one,,, any thoughts or corroboration on this,
this comment is a potential rep death,,,, like career over shit

Nah, he never claimed to create OG Kush. He believes that some of his genetics as well as genetics from other breeders might have been used to create OG Kush but maintains that theres too many stories and mysteries and will settle on DNA testing.

The only thing he got wrong about OG Kush is that the OG stands for Over Grow. That is incorrect because those in the know, are aware of the fact that prior to OG Kush being called OG Kush, it was called The Kush, and many people tried selling fake "Kush" so then it became a "what kush is this?" "it's the original" "well what original?" The OG. Then B-Real and the Cypress crew who were heavily involved running it, and the whole LA scene in general, it kind of took on Original Gangsta. It started being called OG Kush around '98 and Overgrow didn't get shut down until 2004, nor did overgrow exist back then, so he is wrong in what he was told about OG standing for Over Grow.
 

RoyalFlush

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Steve Tuck NEVER tried to take credit for OG Kush. He did however claim that the OG stood for Over Grow (the forums) which is not the case. As far as creating OG, no, he has always remained firm in that it's surrounded by mystery. He has theories of what's in it, but will be doing DNA tests on it to know for sure. It is not his cup of tea either.

He does believe that it contains some of his genetics as well as other breeders genetics in it, but again, will wait on DNA results but OG Kush is of little interest to him, although he respects it in that it breeds pretty true and is good in crosses.

Stating that his genetics were used to make og kush without knowing anything about it's genetic background, is technically taking some credit. like it or not he shouldn't have said a bold statement like that without having solid evidence to back his claim.
 
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tetragrammaton

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Honestly it's very hard to adress a legit and concise reply to turbo posting members like you and the dumb troll wich called me a cop.

I truly apologize for my fast posts. I type extremely fast, won countless awards I didn't want for it throughout my years in school, plus I'm on a computer with a keyboard not a phone so I guess that makes it even more faster. I don't intend on turbo posting or typing such long blocks of text, but that's just how it ends up. Things would be way more easier, and tone would be way more easier to interpret if this was all happening via a Skype discussion or some Google hangout thing.

I enjoyed your post as you included a lot of good points. I also respect you for taking the time for actually reading my posts, albeit long, and many, to realize that I am not the evil crazy person than pongster and hubcap have pointed me out to be.

Herojuana and Herijuana are interchangable. It's the same thing, but as you mentioned, and as I mentioned as well, Steve never gave out herojuana/herijuana seeds. He gave out F1s of the original cross, so the people with the same genetics did their own work with it, breeding it to their liking.

Thank you for being respectful.

As far as my brief avatar of Tekashi, it served as me being petty, not towards you, but for two other individuals, because as we all know, he exposed people, and I at the time was exposing idiots who refused to believe the truth that Steve Tuck is the person behind Herojuana/Herijuana. It also served as a petty warning to an individual who is not operating within the laws of our country, as the law would NEVER recognise his grow/plant numbers as medicinal or for personal use. I found humor in it, nothing more, nothing less.
 

tetragrammaton

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Stating that his genetics were used to make og kush without knowing anything about it's genetic background, is technically taking some credit. like it or not he shouldn't have said a bold statement like that without having solid evidence to back his claim.

Well, that is a fair point, but he didn't STATE that his genetics were used to make OG Kush, he stated that he believes some of his best stock, as well as the best stock of various other breeders were used. Again, he's not interested in OG Kush, and even stated that until he has dna evidence he doesn't really care about any of the stories of it's lineage.

But thank you for being respectful. I truly appreciate it.
 

RoyalFlush

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Well, that is a fair point, but he didn't STATE that his genetics were used to make OG Kush, he stated that he believes some of his best stock, as well as the best stock of various other breeders were used. Again, he's not interested in OG Kush, and even stated that until he has dna evidence he doesn't really care about any of the stories of it's lineage.

But thank you for being respectful. I truly appreciate it.

I saw the video a bunch of times, if "BELIEVES" would have been in the statement he made then I would have let it slide.


https://youtu.be/uvKl1XMpPE4


Tuck wines about people taking credit for his work yet has no problem injecting himself on the OGK background and taking SOME KIND of credit.

Not here to argue, just stating facts.
 

tetragrammaton

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I saw the video a bunch of times, if "BELIEVES" would have been in the statement he made then I would have let it slide.


https://youtu.be/uvKl1XMpPE4


Tuck wines about people taking credit for his work yet has no problem injecting himself on the OGK background and taking SOME KIND of credit.

Not here to argue, just stating facts.

I do believe that I need to bring that up to him, the whole Over Grow thing, as well as the genetics thing. I'm not here to argue with you either. While he might have as you put it injected himself or his work into the mystery surrounding OG Kush, he never makes any claim to be the one who invented the strain itself or have any part in breeding it. He personally doesn't like the plant.
 

RoyalFlush

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Come on guys, no need to get personal.

Here is a pic of Herijuana from s a n n i e ( on the right), don't mind the Northern Lights #5 male on the left
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tetragrammaton

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Come on guys, no need to get personal.

Here is a pic of Herijuana from s a n n i e ( on the right), don't mind the Northern Lights #5 male on the left
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Wow Royal Flush, those are some nice looking plants. As far as "don't mind the Northern Lights #5 male on the left", well I can't help but to take notice. That is one nice bushy male, and looking healthy.

Do you plan on doing a cross of the two?

By the way, to clear things up, all of you with genetics from the man who cannot be named, motarebel, or woodhorse, or got any from resulting backcrosses DO have the genetics of the original cross, but it's not the same, due to all parties involved who worked with the F1's of the Kentucky Sativa (Killer New Haven) and the 35 year old indica that was germinated and named Petrolia Headstash. For those unaware, New Haven is a city in Kentucky, and Petrolia is in Humboldt. Hence the naming of the Afghan and the Kentucky Sativa. That information can perhaps serve Hubcap and clear things up, so he understands why he doesn't see any sativa in it. The seeds he has been getting have been inbred for over two decades for the indica doms. The F1s that were distributed of the cross from Steve weren't herijuana. They were brothers and sisters of herijuana. Herijuana was cubed. What is now referred to as a 4x backcross. That herijuana is coming back this year.

I think we can all agree that it's a very interesting plant and that the people who worked with the genetics created what I'm assuming to be a great indica as the genetics are there, but looks like all the sativa has been bred out, hence why hubcap initially thought my statement of it being a cross between a kentucky sativa and an ancient afghan seemed farfetched to him.

I hope things are cleared up now and hubcap doesn't hate me or think I'm some liar, as I have provided answers to all of his questions as well as pictures, but oh well.

It seems to me that my goal of participating in this thread has been achieved, which is to ensure that everyone knows that this is Steve Tuck's creation and the real deal is coming back this year.

As far as not getting personal, you're right Royal, that was a very unfortunate situation caused by an individual who has held animosity towards me ever since pointing out his hypocricy in a seperate thread, and unfortunately I let him get to me and stooped to his level of pettiness but fortunately the individual is a man of his word and left the site. I have no issue with anyone at all whatsoever, until they have an issue with me, and even then I let it go and ignore it, until they make it impossible to ignore, like a mosquito buzzing around you. I unfortunately lost my cool and was unkind to that individual in return for his unkindness and pettiness towards me. At the end of the day, it was a learning lesson, and I hope that you all can see that I just came to clear up myths and rumors, I had no idea that the individual was going to come here and start shit with me, and I had no plans to pay attention to it, until they just wouldn't stop, and I ended up reacting in a way I'm not proud of, but it is what it is.

Peace, Love, and no BS
Tetra
 

Happy Times

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P.S. For now i'm replacing the pure Heri with a Hogsbreath cross and I still may pull out the Lazarus Pit cross I have. Just looking for a super strong indica that will surpass the high of the old Sensi's Hashplant my friends used to run. Trust me it hasn't been an easy task and i've been trying for over 6 years now. Its come down to these 4 strains: Herijuana, Sensi Star, Black Domina, and Hogsbreath. May the best Indica win!

So almost 8 years later, wondering what the leading Indica is for you?

Inquiring minds
:)
 

rod58

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lol,..just this morning i was going through some " new " seeds , sent to me from a good friend from southern europe and included was a packet of Herijuana .
so i googled them and based on my interpretation of reviews i was in two mindsets whether i'd bother with them in a outdoor setting .
now i've just stumbled across this thread and have read parts of it here and if this thread is any indication of the effects of this weed then i seriously doubt i'd like it . it seems like i've walked in on a shit fight ! can't we just have a grow - smoke report ?
 

Bud Jones

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lol,..just this morning i was going through some " new " seeds , sent to me from a good friend from southern europe and included was a packet of Herijuana .
so i googled them and based on my interpretation of reviews i was in two mindsets whether i'd bother with them in a outdoor setting .
now i've just stumbled across this thread and have read parts of it here and if this thread is any indication of the effects of this weed then i seriously doubt i'd like it . it seems like i've walked in on a shit fight ! can't we just have a grow - smoke report ?
I’ve ran S A N N I E S Herijuana before .. Out of two packs found one Pheno with sickeningly potent effects .. Couldn’t get in with the taste . Flushed properly but it burnt “hot” ... Had an odd peppery rubber taste of that makes sense .. Super lung expanding .. Almost too much .
 

BlackBart

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Thanks for the heads up . Here's afew pics of Mota Rebel's Heri
 

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