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In theory yes, but the bigger your garden gets, the more lights you use, the harder it is to keep on top of your enviromental conditions.
To be getting 2gs per, you have to have everything perfect--its a lot harder to do with a big garden with lots of lamps.
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DaveTheNewbie
Ok so i have read this whole thread front to back. I have made an account just to post here. Now to the questions.
1) Can this be applied to a traditional pot in pot clay pellet recirc system with the drain line taken from half way up the outer pot instead of the bottom? This would keep half the clay pellets and roots submerged. Is this basically the real change Heath is suggesting?
2a) With the configuration of 5 vert lights and 4 plants, the middle light i get. The 4 corner lights arent surrounded by plants, they are in the corners. Isnt this against the advantages of vert growing in which the whole globe range is used without reflectors?
2b) if 2a) is true then wouldnt you get more yield with 4 globes and 4 plants if the 4 plants were in the corners and the 4 globes were on the sides, such as below :
X O X
O ? O
X O X
and maybe a 5th super plant or globe in the middle as desired?
3a) the autocad plans show that the water IN can be either a line from above or a line into the side of the pot. If no line from above is used, where do you get your DO from as its mainly added as the water goes thru the medium.
3b) can you just use the line in from the top and not add water into the system via pvc piping into the base? if so see 1)
4) given the scenario of 2 lights and 2 plants am i better having the 2 lights above and below each other between the 2 plants or left and right / front and back at the same height?
5) given that heath gets amazing yields out of a waterfarm bucket (which is quite small), what is the real advantage of the monster bucket system he designed on page 8 (with the viewport), and what were the results from that monster?
6) when the water leaves the plant via the 1.5 inch pipe and goes back to the res, if you can arrange it so the water enters high in the res and "waterfalls" or splashes into the res wouldnt that also add an amazing amount of DO in the process with zero extra effort? Maybe i have to draw a diagram for this one.
7) this isnt a question but an observation / opinion : i would put a water drain and tap at the bottom of the pot so that you can drain it when doing a water change. Otherwise you are only changing a part of the water, not all of it.
8) full kudos to everyone who had an intelligent contribution to this thread, its an amazing thing. I have been on grow forums for 5 years and this is the single best thread i know of. Double points to Cyat for following the destructions and getting the goods and sharing it with us all so we know it works.
1) Can this be applied to a traditional pot in pot clay pellet recirc system with the drain line taken from half way up the outer pot instead of the bottom? This would keep half the clay pellets and roots submerged. Is this basically the real change Heath is suggesting?
2a) With the configuration of 5 vert lights and 4 plants, the middle light i get. The 4 corner lights arent surrounded by plants, they are in the corners. Isnt this against the advantages of vert growing in which the whole globe range is used without reflectors?
2b) if 2a) is true then wouldnt you get more yield with 4 globes and 4 plants if the 4 plants were in the corners and the 4 globes were on the sides, such as below :
X O X
O ? O
X O X
and maybe a 5th super plant or globe in the middle as desired?
3a) the autocad plans show that the water IN can be either a line from above or a line into the side of the pot. If no line from above is used, where do you get your DO from as its mainly added as the water goes thru the medium.
3b) can you just use the line in from the top and not add water into the system via pvc piping into the base? if so see 1)
4) given the scenario of 2 lights and 2 plants am i better having the 2 lights above and below each other between the 2 plants or left and right / front and back at the same height?
5) given that heath gets amazing yields out of a waterfarm bucket (which is quite small), what is the real advantage of the monster bucket system he designed on page 8 (with the viewport), and what were the results from that monster?
6) when the water leaves the plant via the 1.5 inch pipe and goes back to the res, if you can arrange it so the water enters high in the res and "waterfalls" or splashes into the res wouldnt that also add an amazing amount of DO in the process with zero extra effort? Maybe i have to draw a diagram for this one.
7) this isnt a question but an observation / opinion : i would put a water drain and tap at the bottom of the pot so that you can drain it when doing a water change. Otherwise you are only changing a part of the water, not all of it.
8) full kudos to everyone who had an intelligent contribution to this thread, its an amazing thing. I have been on grow forums for 5 years and this is the single best thread i know of. Double points to Cyat for following the destructions and getting the goods and sharing it with us all so we know it works.
SUPER FORUM and I mean SUPER! I know Heath likes a decent flow drip system, so I'd take it WaterFarm's wouldn't be ideal for this.
Not liking the efficiency of the WaterFarm air-push-drip system I came across HydroHalo water rings that run off another water pump. The media coverage and aeration look pretty good too.
Could also start real young plants in a 5 gal or greater bucket system with them. It also can add redundancy to a DWC or similar system.
I know Heath likes a decent flow drip system, so I'd take it WaterFarm's wouldn't be ideal for this.Not liking the efficiency of the WaterFarm air-push-drip system I came across HydroHalo water rings that run off another water pump. The media coverage and aeration look pretty good too.
Could also start real young plants in a 5 gal or greater bucket system with them. It also can add redundancy to a DWC or similar system.
TURBD
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Good read 4+ off 1 plant is amazing.
All these people that are like oh if you did this or that different wouldn't that be better.....
Wtf. 4lbs off a plant and your gonna tweak and fuck around with it.
It works as is. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Hope to try this one day. Just as its been laid out.
Thanks for posting this.
All these people that are like oh if you did this or that different wouldn't that be better.....
Wtf. 4lbs off a plant and your gonna tweak and fuck around with it.
It works as is. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Hope to try this one day. Just as its been laid out.
Thanks for posting this.
Well I agree TURBD. But that's how Heath got to where he is, a lot by emulating exisiting products and ideas and of course his own style and ideas. I'm talking about people and their existing Waterfarm systems that Heath likes to also mod. To quote Heath:
Hence why I suggested the HydroHalos, especially for seedlings/clones/small plants in a 8-10" netpot in a 3-5 gallon bucket - or 2 bucket in bucket system. But yeah, if I want 4 lb trees the only thing I may differ is stacking bulbs, which Health also does in other grows.
Hence why I suggested the HydroHalos, especially for seedlings/clones/small plants in a 8-10" netpot in a 3-5 gallon bucket - or 2 bucket in bucket system. But yeah, if I want 4 lb trees the only thing I may differ is stacking bulbs, which Health also does in other grows.
Right cyat, but the GH Waterfarm uses air to inefficiently push water up whereas the Hydrohalo uses straight water pressure and a much better flow rate and the water is distributed evenly like the Waterfarm on seedlings. Yes, just letting an open ended line would work just about as well and would be cheaper. I'm considering Hydrohalo to supplement bubble buckets (could also add redundancy). Not affiliated w/Hydrohalo in any shape or form and I'm not their sock puppet.
drymouth
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Of course I find this thread when Heath is MIA!!!
Is DHF or Billy Liar still around??
Going to grow in dirt my first round or two but planning on building a "test" system off of Heath's design to see if I can make it work
Would be nice to have peeps around to bounce ideas off of!!! Come on out guys, don't be shy!!!!
cyat, what kind of results have you had growing trees with this system?
Is DHF or Billy Liar still around??
Going to grow in dirt my first round or two but planning on building a "test" system off of Heath's design to see if I can make it work
Would be nice to have peeps around to bounce ideas off of!!! Come on out guys, don't be shy!!!!cyat, what kind of results have you had growing trees with this system?
Billy Liar
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I'm listening.....
Just holler if we can help.
Peace
BL
Just holler if we can help.
Peace
BL
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