Heaths latest tree grow

[Billy Liar]

All looking great Cyat, cant wait to see them done....
peace
BL

 

[Mybud]

Wow! looking forward to your next adventure

 

[Floralfaction]

Does anyone know the original parentage of Heath's Black Rose? It's quite beautiful.

peace

 

[DHF]

Black Rose = Black Russian X Purple Shiva Skunk.........The beans are very stable in growth habits per se depending on which light source used as in vertical or horizontal , but spit out many different colored pheno`s from Lime Green to almost Black........wish I still had the Lime Greenie....strongest of the bunch in flavor , taste , and smell........

Cyat........Keep up da good work Bro......don`t let em get ahead of yas or snapped branches are on the way......Coco Bubba @ 6 weeks looks killer.......

Peace....DHF............

 

[vicious bee]

Here's some info from Heath about D.O :


"In this you can see that at 19 deg C its about 9mg / L of DO, so not quite 1 mg for every C the temps are raised but a useful rule of thumb. this is sufficient for healthy plant growth, the optimum for nutrient temps is between 18 and 24c

As growers we are caught in a "catch 22" situation because DO is increased at low nutrient temps but the plant growth is regulated by performing countless numbers of biochemical reactions which will double for every increase of 10 degrees C degrees or on the other hand be cut in half for every reduction of 10 degrees C, so there is the dilemma...... which leads me on to some possible answers

The recirculating systems I use all rely on one simple fact and that is whenever air is in contact with the water, whether through natural or artificial means, a transfer of oxygen from the air to the water takes place at the surface which provides a good gas exchange allowing oxygen to enter the water and carbon dioxide to escape until the water becomes saturated. The speed at which oxygen from the air enters and mixes through a system depends on the amount of agitation at the water surface, the depth of the system and the rate at which it mixes itself.

When normal airstones are used most of the DO is obtained when the bubble forms and then by water movement at the surface, so most of the DO is created by water movement at the surface rather than bubbles as most people think. Another thing growers should consider is the practice of placing a large airstone underneath the roots and allowing it to bubble away furiously can cause mechanical damage to the roots and the turbulence can cause stress. Much better to have the bubbles generated in a remote rez and recirculate them through the system.

Ceramic Micro air Diffusers (CMD) are brilliant for aerating your system, if you have never seen one running you are in for a treat, when you first run one its a surprise to see what looks like milk streaming out of the diffuser! or a bit like underwater fog, with one of these you can oversaturate depending on the size of the diffuser or system but not to the point that the system is toxic. If you decide to use one of these, depending on how good the CMD is you can run them intermittently as the DO will stay in the system for about 20 mins .

I wouldn't recommend the use of CMD with oxygen as you would run the real risk of it becoming toxic but not at the levels you suggest it would have to be more than double 14mg DO / L."

This is just an idea. What if you used H2O2 for oxygen? The H2O2 would kill the brown sludge that comes when temps rise and provide oxygen. I mean large quantitys added every day. You could buy a large amount of H2O2 as compared to running chillers and air conditioners. Also running at higher temperatures might give better growth.

 

[down2grow]

Damn Cyat!!!! That's just ionic?

D2G

 

[cyat]

yeah fred thanks bro, your right branches are getting way too heavy, lota work to do tying. gonna throw up a 6 on top and take away the t5.fred thanks on the 6 week bubba and d2g the quality off a snapped branch on the 6 week bub is insane, best ever! Only ionic and sulphuric acid , no joke.
vb, peroxide seems cool but not a fix all type deal it cant replace a good working system like Heath's. I get the do from the water pump flowing over the clay rocks and a tee in the res.
Have fun

 

[Critter]

Great grow Cyat real cutting edge stuff! Got a question-the sulphuric acid is that used for ph down? What do you use for ph up if anything? What kind of sulphuric acid do you use Source from? What increments? Sorry for busting up in here with questions answer if you like if not no prob. Again great grow mate!!

 

[est1977]

been watching Heath since the overgrow days Kick ass Cyat

 

[cyat]

Hey critter thanks man the sulphuric acid is from an auto parts store, a small bottle is $8 and makes 4 gallons of ph down. I don't ever need ph up because I use tap water. When I used ro water I needed ph up. I would probably use silica for ph up it's cheap and has added benefits. sulphuric acid has added benefits in regards to ph stability and added sulphur for the plant.

thanks est1977

One piece of advice I have learned the hard way with this system is to have your 1/2 in. feed line pointed away from the plant. I use a 45 so I can turn it where I want. The moistness on the hydroton is enough for the roots until they hit the water, the high flowing feed mostly serves the purpose of keeping the system moving fast and keeping the nutrients mixed. IMHO

 

[DHF]

Battery acid`s `ol cropper secret.......Shhhhhh......LOL. .

Battery acid`s `ol cropper secret.......Shhhhhh......LOL. .

There`s always a learnin curve on new setups Bro........We usedta take the top feedlines away from the upper medium after roots hit the bottom containers , and just let it squirt down into the bottoms to allow upper drying out and forming of "air roots" in our `ol krusty bucket runs.......

Didn`t notice or rather have never seen pics of you blastin juice at the base of the mainstem or I`d said somethin....

Anyways.......get ta tyin up dem branches......I can think of worse things ta do......monster bitches......

Peace.....DHF.........

 

[cyat]

yeah Fred no prob on the feed line on the big girls got lucky on positioning it
probs on the new veg setup lost about 10 including some big clones and my last sage cut oh well
2 black berry are left
1 lvpk is growing strong and a headband 707
added a swiss cheese from a buddy (never tried) it rinsed off the soil no shock whatsoever

switched nutes to dutch master gold and their boost couldn't get Ionic fast enough
confident it will work at 600ppm

 

[stoney419]

What boost are you using with the DM gold

 

[DHF]

OHHH..Ok...Glad it`s not on the big girls......Shit happens my buddy.......all in the name of dialage.....We live we learn......We kill multitudes of plants in the process , but all for the greater good......Knowledge.......

Handle it Bro....Got faith in yas.........DHF..........

 

[cyat]

Stoney I got the dm potash plus or whatever its called 0-5-6 ish not in front of me
Haven't used it yet just got it wish I could have got Ionic its all good

Fred thank god not the big girls they got got that mojo
dialage is happening I depend on it
Good vibes

 

[Bermyboy]

I thought this was a Heath grow?!?!

 

[ddftre]

cyat what light did you veg with and was the bulb vertical in veg, and how many lights are you using now in the budding.

 

[down2grow]

Heath hasn't came back to this thread in a long time Bermy! Cyat is killing it using Heath's design though. Keep up the good work Cyat!

D2G

 

[cyat]

ddftre I started with a couple cfls then added a 4ft 4 bulb t5 then a vertical 600 and then a vertical 1000
Now I'm rockin the t5 on top 2 1000's and a six vert bare bulb the purple bubba has 2 1000's
bermyboy I have asked if any one objects to me posting in Heath's thread and you are the first to object. I learned the technique from Heath at the beginning of this thread and never stopped putting up my results. I have tried to help others who have questions and I have never taken credit for this design, I just followed Heath's autocad and advice.
Thanks d2g

 

[ddftre]

cyat when are you going to be done, how much time does it take you to tie up the branches, is this how your going to be growing from now on. What are you going to change for the flowering cycle next time as far as lights and plant distance. what was the longest you did not have to go into the flowering room, 2 days or three days or did you have to do something everyday. sorry for all the questions I am thinking of doing it this way and want to know what I would be getting into, now I am doing ebb and flo buckets with netting over it, very little work.

thanks