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Kalyx

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Update 8/5

Sorry for delays and complete lack of updates since this grow started. Life can get crazy and things need to go on the back burner. The grow is still chugging along, the magic (flowering) hasn't started yet. This grow did get off to a very rough start and had lost a number of the seedlings when my intake and exhaust fans broke, turning my veg box into heat box. After all the damage was said and done I lost half of the 18 seedlings I had started. I initially began with 6 Headbangers and sadly only 2 of them survived the madness, one of them being a runt.

Mistakes happen, lessons are learned all in the process of becoming a better grower. Trying to look on the bright side of my mistakes and misfortunes, I have the theory that only the best plants survived. The survivors are very impressive plants with a lot of vigor, great structure and excellent smells. I like to think that my unintentional stress test eliminated all the weak links, leaving only the dankest plants standing.

Another positive note is I was blessed with 2 lady Headbangers from the only survivors. What could be a little flaw in my theory that only the strong survive is that one of the ladies is a super runt. In fairness to her, she was basically brought back from the dead, I never thought she was going to survive. After the mishap she remained stunted for about 4 weeks before starting to grow again. She was far behind every other plant but I kept her around because room was not an issue. The problem is that she has never shown much vigor at all, her growth is painstakingly slow. She will need to keep vegging before she is large enough to flower out, let alone take cuts from. To keep my theory intact, Im choosing to believe that even though she is small and slow, she is going to spit out the FIYAH! There is always the chance that she will display normal vigor once I can start growing a clone from her as well.

Headbanger #4

Well here she is, the runt of the pack but I still love all my children equally. I have had pretty good luck with runts in the past blessing me with some amazing smoke so fingers crossed. She has started to pick up her growth rate a tad the past 2 weeks but its still pretty pathetic. To give an idea to everyone how slow she has been growing, you are able to see where she was topped. Well thats just over an inch growth and she was topped nearly 4 weeks ago. She currently stands at 12 inches from top of soil and was started on 5/10 if that paints a better picture.

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Headbanger #5

I really love this girl, good vigor, easy to keep happy, tight node spacing and excellent branching. This girl has not been topped, I was really wanting to see what her normal growth structure is like. The only reason the runt was topped was a way to help promote growth to what little side branches she had. This girl is nearly 2x as tall and probably 8x as bushy as her little sister. This girl has a really nice spicy skunky stink to her, cant wait to get her into flower. I already have some rooted cuts from her, I plan to get her transplanted one last time into a 3gal pot. Will give her probably a week after transplant before I flip her into flower. If all goes to plan, I hope to have her into bloom in the next week or two.

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Bmac1

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Nice plants Kalyx. Looking forward to seeing these in a couple months. Been some real nice plants in the line.
 

Grid Xeon

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Looks lovely that one. Great structure on it. Will be nice size after flower I reckon. Loved this strain in the dam but a bit too strong for me. :biggrin:
wishing you good fortune.
 
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Xray Kimono

Looks lovely that one. Great structure on it. Will be nice size after flower I reckon. Loved this strain in the dam but a bit too strong for me. :biggrin:
wishing you good fortune.

Too strong? I'm at a loss. ;-)
 

Gardening Angel

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Update 8/5

Sorry for delays and complete lack of updates since this grow started. Life can get crazy and things need to go on the back burner. The grow is still chugging along, the magic (flowering) hasn't started yet. This grow did get off to a very rough start and had lost a number of the seedlings when my intake and exhaust fans broke, turning my veg box into heat box. After all the damage was said and done I lost half of the 18 seedlings I had started. I initially began with 6 Headbangers and sadly only 2 of them survived the madness, one of them being a runt.

Mistakes happen, lessons are learned all in the process of becoming a better grower. Trying to look on the bright side of my mistakes and misfortunes, I have the theory that only the best plants survived. The survivors are very impressive plants with a lot of vigor, great structure and excellent smells. I like to think that my unintentional stress test eliminated all the weak links, leaving only the dankest plants standing.

Another positive note is I was blessed with 2 lady Headbangers from the only survivors. What could be a little flaw in my theory that only the strong survive is that one of the ladies is a super runt. In fairness to her, she was basically brought back from the dead, I never thought she was going to survive. After the mishap she remained stunted for about 4 weeks before starting to grow again. She was far behind every other plant but I kept her around because room was not an issue. The problem is that she has never shown much vigor at all, her growth is painstakingly slow. She will need to keep vegging before she is large enough to flower out, let alone take cuts from. To keep my theory intact, Im choosing to believe that even though she is small and slow, she is going to spit out the FIYAH! There is always the chance that she will display normal vigor once I can start growing a clone from her as well.

Headbanger #4

Well here she is, the runt of the pack but I still love all my children equally. I have had pretty good luck with runts in the past blessing me with some amazing smoke so fingers crossed. She has started to pick up her growth rate a tad the past 2 weeks but its still pretty pathetic. To give an idea to everyone how slow she has been growing, you are able to see where she was topped. Well thats just over an inch growth and she was topped nearly 4 weeks ago. She currently stands at 12 inches from top of soil and was started on 5/10 if that paints a better picture.

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Headbanger #5

I really love this girl, good vigor, easy to keep happy, tight node spacing and excellent branching. This girl has not been topped, I was really wanting to see what her normal growth structure is like. The only reason the runt was topped was a way to help promote growth to what little side branches she had. This girl is nearly 2x as tall and probably 8x as bushy as her little sister. This girl has a really nice spicy skunky stink to her, cant wait to get her into flower. I already have some rooted cuts from her, I plan to get her transplanted one last time into a 3gal pot. Will give her probably a week after transplant before I flip her into flower. If all goes to plan, I hope to have her into bloom in the next week or two.

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Hey kalyx

Thanks for the update

Hope all is good on the grow now ?

GA
 

Kalyx

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@Bmac1 - Thanks Bmac1, really excited to watching the show these girls put on, I have been craving that sour in a bad way. Really happy that my runt really seems to have picked her act up in recent weeks.

@Grid Xeon - Thanks I really appreciate it, I really like the structure on these ladies as well, they are going to produce some great buds. I do expect her to stretch quite a bit by the time all is said an done. Im thinking she will go about 200% stretch but Im preparing for 300% though.

@Gardening Angel - Hey GA, things are going well. Sadly "El Dorado" isn't in operation just yet. Its been an insane amount of work for one person and there have been numerous set backs. Im tired of saying it will be finished in a couple of weeks and it not happening. I will say this though its VERY close, all I have left to do is hang up lights, fans and filters then power and "El Dorado" will be officially open for business. As soon as I have things operational I will get a thread started with before and after pictures, my grows and all of my current and planned projects.


Update 8/30 - Flower Day 1


Its been a hectic summer to say the least and I have really been neglecting my updates and logs. Good news though is that the Headbanger #5 has finally begun her flowering phase. Now that I do have one of these girls into flower the plan is to do weekly updates on her progress. Both plants were recently transplanted into larger pots, the Headbanger #4 was root bound and starting to look very stressed. The HB#5 was a little late on getting transplanted as well but didn't display nearly the stress that her sister did.

Lots of unfinished business with this strain, saying I was excited would be an understatement to finally get a lady Headbanger into bloom. The next 10-12 weeks of flower, add another few weeks for drying and curing are going to feel like an eternity. The quest for that sour funk isn't far away now, its going to be a fun show to watch in the coming weeks.


Headbanger #5 - Flower Day 1


The Headbanger #5 went from a 3gal pot to a 5gal for flowering and was transplanted a week before going into bloom. I have a couple clones from her that have really taken off and are displaying a lot of vigor. They will most likely be given another few weeks before they are thrown into flower. I have been craving that sour funk and in a few months that should be more than fulfilled. Nothing super strong smell wise with her yet but she does have a really nice skunky funk going on with stem rub.

The structure and growth with her is going to be all natural, no topping or training has been done. Fairly strong branching on this girl, most of the tops form a fairly even canopy outside of the main top that stands about 8 inches above. Her sister on the other hand has been topped, this was done in hopes of promoting faster growth on her. The two clones will probably be topped/trained in some way or fashion but wanted to she the natural structure on this run. I do need to add that this picture was actually taken 4 days before she went into flower.


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Headbanger #4


This girl has really made a great turn around, so many times I came close to just getting rid of her, happy I didn't. Getting her transplanted was put off much longer than it should have and she suffered because of it. Im not sure if it was the added stress or what but as soon as she was transplanted from a 1gal to a 2gal pot she took off. Took her a couple days to recover, when she did she was revitalized and looked like a brand new plant. Since she has displayed more vigor and growth than she has her entire life. Really starting to gain some excitement for this girl and her potential. She doesn't smell much in veg but is displaying a nice structure and growth. She has a great dark shinny green color and a really pretty leaf structure.

The plan with her is to let her veg a little bit longer before putting her into flower. She has yet to be cloned so that is on the docket for this week. Previously it wasn't planned that she would be cloned, she was just growing way to slow and wasn't large enough to give up any cuts. You never know the potential she has inside, this plant has gone through a lot of shit and stress and just keeps trucking along. After taking some cuts she will be transplanted one last time into either a 3gal of 5gal for flowering. The past few months I just kept her around because I had the space. I wasn't excited about her, she was the red headed step child if you will, that outlook has done a complete 180 recently.


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sourpuss

Lookin good bro! Id expect some serious stretch and floppy stems. Pre stake might be good. Let them roots grow around em. But u may get lucky with a less stretchy pheno. ...
 

Kalyx

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Lookin good bro! Id expect some serious stretch and floppy stems. Pre stake might be good. Let them roots grow around em. But u may get lucky with a less stretchy pheno. ...

Thanks man, I was planning for stretch around 200-300%, should I plan for more than that?

I was all out of stakes until I chopped down 3 Karma's Og the other night (will be uploading pics soon). I staked and tied up my Road Dawg (stardawg x biker) first since she has been flowering over 3 weeks. I was exhausted after doing that so I called it a night. I do need to get that done asap though so I dont hurt or stress the roots. She does have a very sturdy main stem but her branches are very thin. They are sturdy now but your right I can see now they will be flopping all over once they get some weight on them.

Thanks for the advice I appreciate it.
-Kalyx :tiphat:
 
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sourpuss

Ur prob right about the stretch. Ive only seen 1 pheno which does 2 to 3 times. Its the dense rock nugs that cause the issues. Fucking dense rock hard nugs of dankness haha.

Im enjoyin the show bro. Summer issues suck. Least those 2 girls r heat tested.... bangers can take the light I find compared to other strains. Where other strains will stress out the bangers just love the light. Like a well bred afghani broadleaf.. thick slight waxy leaves when healthy...
 

Doc D

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looking good, now for the exciting part…

I've got 6 headbanger babies going right now and look forward to seeing how yours progress…
 

Kalyx

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@sourpuss - All excellent information thank you.... Great to know about the bangers being able to take light. seems like everything I have in my stable right now is sensitive to it. Happy that wont be an issues with these.

My Karma's Og I just harvested I vegged too long, ran out of height in my tent and was a pain in the ass trying to keep basically every plant in the tent off to the sides lol. My KOG phenos seem to like being about 2 feet from the light at the closest, was a big pain in the ass this last round.

@Doc D - Thanks for dropping by Doc, So happy to finally have some lady bangers I can flower out. The strain is such an amazing smoke, you will find some magic in those babies.

Would love to see how your grow goes... Do you have a log?

-Kalyx :biggrin:
 

nickman

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Yeah I'm wondering if my testers(karma og x biker kush) will b sensative to the lights... I have them turned down to 750 only because of the summertime heat in my area... Good day bro...
 

Kalyx

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Yeah I'm wondering if my testers(karma og x biker kush) will b sensative to the lights... I have them turned down to 750 only because of the summertime heat in my area... Good day bro...

I would probably be of the mindset that at least some of those will have some sensitivities to the light. Having a dimmable ballast is a great option to help over come any issues or raising your light. If things work out and they aren't sensitive you can always lower the light or turn up the ballast.

Those testers will be spitting out fire no doubt, looking forward to see what you find with those.

-Kalyx :tiphat:
 

Grid Xeon

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@sourpuss - All excellent information thank you.... Great to know about the bangers being able to take light. seems like everything I have in my stable right now is sensitive to it. Happy that wont be an issues with these.

My Karma's Og I just harvested I vegged too long, ran out of height in my tent and was a pain in the ass trying to keep basically every plant in the tent off to the sides lol. My KOG phenos seem to like being about 2 feet from the light at the closest, was a big pain in the ass this last round.

@Doc D - Thanks for dropping by Doc, So happy to finally have some lady bangers I can flower out. The strain is such an amazing smoke, you will find some magic in those babies.

Would love to see how your grow goes... Do you have a log?

-Kalyx :biggrin:

funny you should say that, just finished a white og run and had similar issues, got the lights up to max head and made it through but I think the plants would have been happier shorter with a shorter veg time, found it hard to balance keeping the light close to discourage stretch, then raising it up during later flower to make temps at the tops more tolerable.
Have some kog seedlings which I might now flip to 12/12 to prevent this issue cropping up later :thank you:
 

Gardening Angel

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Hey kalyx,

Thanks for the update

That number 4 is looking real special looking forward to seeing it in flower

I hope your keeping well ?

GA
 

Kalyx

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@Grid Xeon - Ya it seems like Im always in a battle with the lights and plants being to close or too far. Thats what I get when Im always running different plants and popping seeds though. I have been very happy with how my Karmas Og came out, I know I can grow her better but some killer smoke and flavor regardless.

@Gardening Angel - Hey GA, Im keeping well and keeping busy my man. I hope all is going well on your end?

I have a feeling that the #4 pheno might come out real special, should be getting her into flower within the week. She has been a big pain in my ass but her clones seem to be growing much happier and easier.

Update 9/28 - Flower Day 28


Well shit, I thought I had done an update two weeks ago but I clearly spaced that one. I have been really busy and battling a cold recently and have done a really bad job doing updates on this grow. Things are rocking and rolling now with the bangers and hopefully it will be smooth sailing with updates until the finish. As mentioned above the runt Headbanger #4 hasnt started flowering yet but the #5 is now 4 weeks in and going strong. Multiple clones have been taken from both plants and will be flowered out and logged in the very near future. All of my plants are now in a new soil and amendment mix, this is part of the first round flowering using this mix. I have also been implementing and rotating different foliar feedings on a weekly basis. So far I have been really impressed with the results on both, all the plants appear very lush, healthy and happy with some great coloring.

Headbanger #5


Just loving this girl, my favorite of the two phenos so far, she is just a great looking, strong plant. She has the looks of being a nice yielder with some monster flowers the rate she is moving just 28 days in. I had two different plants go into flower the same time she did and her flower size and production is ahead of both her friends. Its been getting really frosty in here the past couple of weeks and this girl is just getting caked in it. I wish I could give an accurate smell description with her but I really haven't been able to smell much of anything the past couple of weeks due to this cold. As soon as Im able to accurately smell her stank I will provide a description to the best of my ability.

She has some really nice branching and strong sturdy stems. She hasn't required any staking or support as of yet but it looks like that could change quickly in coming weeks. Love the natural structure of her with a main terminal cola and some strong bud production on her branches. I did spend some time with her cleaning up the bottoms and removing a few large fan leaves over the weekend. She does have some fairly tight node spacing but still gets good light penetration all the way to the bottom. she required very little cleaning up on her bottoms and doesn't look like she will produce much larf or trash. The stretch has really come to an end the past week but she did quite a bit of it. I would guess she probably tripled in size since being flipped into flower. Her big fat dark leathery green fan leaves are just awesome, she just wants to grab your attention she is the Headbanger.

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Gardening Angel

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@Grid Xeon - Ya it seems like Im always in a battle with the lights and plants being to close or too far. Thats what I get when Im always running different plants and popping seeds though. I have been very happy with how my Karmas Og came out, I know I can grow her better but some killer smoke and flavor regardless.

@Gardening Angel - Hey GA, Im keeping well and keeping busy my man. I hope all is going well on your end?

I have a feeling that the #4 pheno might come out real special, should be getting her into flower within the week. She has been a big pain in my ass but her clones seem to be growing much happier and easier.

Update 9/28 - Flower Day 28


Well shit, I thought I had done an update two weeks ago but I clearly spaced that one. I have been really busy and battling a cold recently and have done a really bad job doing updates on this grow. Things are rocking and rolling now with the bangers and hopefully it will be smooth sailing with updates until the finish. As mentioned above the runt Headbanger #4 hasnt started flowering yet but the #5 is now 4 weeks in and going strong. Multiple clones have been taken from both plants and will be flowered out and logged in the very near future. All of my plants are now in a new soil and amendment mix, this is part of the first round flowering using this mix. I have also been implementing and rotating different foliar feedings on a weekly basis. So far I have been really impressed with the results on both, all the plants appear very lush, healthy and happy with some great coloring.

Headbanger #5


Just loving this girl, my favorite of the two phenos so far, she is just a great looking, strong plant. She has the looks of being a nice yielder with some monster flowers the rate she is moving just 28 days in. I had two different plants go into flower the same time she did and her flower size and production is ahead of both her friends. Its been getting really frosty in here the past couple of weeks and this girl is just getting caked in it. I wish I could give an accurate smell description with her but I really haven't been able to smell much of anything the past couple of weeks due to this cold. As soon as Im able to accurately smell her stank I will provide a description to the best of my ability.

She has some really nice branching and strong sturdy stems. She hasn't required any staking or support as of yet but it looks like that could change quickly in coming weeks. Love the natural structure of her with a main terminal cola and some strong bud production on her branches. I did spend some time with her cleaning up the bottoms and removing a few large fan leaves over the weekend. She does have some fairly tight node spacing but still gets good light penetration all the way to the bottom. she required very little cleaning up on her bottoms and doesn't look like she will produce much larf or trash. The stretch has really come to an end the past week but she did quite a bit of it. I would guess she probably tripled in size since being flipped into flower. Her big fat dark leathery green fan leaves are just awesome, she just wants to grab your attention she is the Headbanger.

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Hey kalyx,

Thanks for the update

Looking real nice bet she's starting to stink up nicely
Good job over on your roaddawg thread also

Defo get her supported bro when you can looking like she's going to swell up real nice
Did all the headbanger 3x after flip ?

Hit me up in pm when you can

Thanks
GA
 

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