Hmmm....
Firstly-Raco and Ur Hum;
You have my sincerest admiration for growing a variety that can run
almost six months of 12/12 with no guarantee (from seed) of finishing correctly indoors. It's a tricky thing to grow Pure(ish) tropical sativas under HID lighting,and the more land race and less hybridized the tropical variety is,the more of a PITA it is to grow inside.
Years and years ago,when I was originally running the whole group of (Original,GHS' ""black pack") Super Silver Haze (that my (imo) "picture-perfect indoor Haze" Mom came from,) seeds,looking for a perfect "haze" mom and trying to sort out any variables,I let a couple of those bitches go near 130 days.
As it turned out,at that length,it had been "over-flowered",and it generally lost all flavor and most of the high.
So.... Into the b-bags it went.
As it turned out,82-95 days was "peak" for that group-and it's as long,or longer a flower period,than almost anyone growing indoors wants to bother with-at least initially in their growing "career".
They see,I think,"Too many pratfalls,not enough "reward",quick enough",especially when compared to,say,C99,with a 50-55 day finish,eh?
I've found that people who grow for long periods of time seem to gravitate towards extreme sativas as they get really,REALLY comfortable with their ability to read plants and control their environment.
Years back,I first combined Sour Diesel and the above SSH to add a Sour "zest" to the very sharp and almost-picturesque,sandal-woody Haze flavor,and also to see if the Sour Diesel's 77-day flower time and slight indica lineage would shorten the SSH's "just a wee bit too long" flower time. It did,with some SSSDH plants finishing in under 80 days,the majority around day 80. Hazes when grown indoors don't produce copious seed by a long-shot,either,and by adding Sour D to the equation I also bred a haze hybrid that was more amiable to indoor breeding,should the grower wish to inbreed,or out-cross,the SSSDH. "Commercially",it's not easy for a smaller, indoor-based seed company to produce lots of tropical sativa seeds in one shot-and that's why you see a lack of SOLID,yet inexpensive haze hybrids available for purchase-If you do see something "haze" and cheap,one has to seriously consider the Source P1 stock before proceeding. Buying haze hybrids can be a shitshoot. Sam's Haze stock is THE Industry Standard,you cannot ever go wrong with Sam's Hazes. Shanti,next.
This is a really nice thread,and some really nice plants.
Thanks gang!
Cheers!
Rez,
I always appreciate receiving compliments, especially from long time breeders like yourself. I do have a clone of the Old Timer's Haze being flowered indoors (at about 9 weeks now). I had to transplant into a larger container today as she was showing some N deficiencies and liquid nutes are not well tolerated by these extreme sativas. For me, the indoor grow of Haze is to select what I intend to flower outdoors. I can gain a sense of the plants characteristics and select for those plants I wish to explore further. Raco, it seems, has truly mastered the art of growing these ladies indoors. I am impressed beyond belief with his skill. I think everyone interested should learn what they can from the likes of Raco.
I have every expectation that your SSSDH is some truly world class cannabis. I have been very pleased with growing your Sour Diesel and Strawberry Diesel and hope to do so again in the future - so I know you can select very well! I'm looking forward to popping some of the SSSDH I bought this summer and running it along side other Haze genetics (Old Timer's, Tom Hill's, Seedsman - which I believe comes from Sam's line). I'm sure some delicious hybrids could be made with a select SSSDH crossed to these old Haze lines. This would inject some well needed Hybrid vigor into old sativa blood. I've only got one pack of the SSSDH (unfortunate earlier order lost) but from what I've seen, I am confident I can find my keeper.
Cheers,
