Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

[Yamaha FG-840]

The incredible innumeracy guiding you through your life is nothing short of stunning. LoL!

FROM YOUR CHURCH'S TEACHINGS: "About 29 percent of the solar energy that arrives at the top of the atmosphere is reflected back to space by clouds,

atmospheric particles, or bright ground surfaces like sea ice and snow.

This energy plays no role in Earth’s climate system.

Thus, about 71 percent of the total incoming solar energy is absorbed by the Earth system.

If they are called Greenhouse gasses how can they cool the atmosphere? By definition greenhouses warm things.

green·house
ˈɡrēnˌhous/Submit
noun
a glass building in which plants are grown that need protection from cold weather.

There you have it you are wrong. By your own logic!

Again, you're obviously not paying attention to your church's teachings.

You've been shown this no less than a half dozen times in the last week alone

29% less energy in

means 29% less energy out,

and you're gonna be dealing with the fact you got caught thinking otherwise.

FROM YOUR CHURCH'S TEACHINGS:
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/ContentFeature/EnergyBalance/images/reflected_radiation.jpg

FROM your CHURCH'S TEACHINGS, same PAGE:

"Effect on Surface Temperature
The natural greenhouse effect raises the Earth’s surface temperature to about 15 degrees Celsius on average—more than 30 degrees warmer than it would be if it didn’t have an atmosphere."

There it is right there in front of your gullible face: 29% less energy in, makes more than 100% come out as if there WERE no Atmosphere making 29 less energy go in.

"Evur time green house gases, has dun made less wint in,
thay dun made moar come back owt!''

That's your story. It's right there on your leaders' indoctrination page about

"GHGs making less energy go in,

making more energy come out,

every time they make less go in.''

 

[Yamaha FG-840]

You think less light into a rock means more light out.

The Atmosphere and particularly the GHGs stop 29% of sunlight from warming the planet.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/ContentFeature/EnergyBalance/images/reflected_radiation.jpg

I think he means Aerosols.

 

[Yamaha FG-840]

Don't worry nobody watching this thinks you're pretending about this.

Everyone believes you actually think you're gonna argue

till 29% less energy into a rock, makes more than 100% out.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Still kind of hung up on that 29% rock huh?

 

[hubcap]

we all do realize this has been happening on Earth for quite some time, correct?
we all do realize we are in a thawing period between ice ages, right?


while we aren't helping things......its getting warmer like it or not. V8s and diesels or not.
And it WILL get cold again. Hippies and wind turbines, or not.





Its ok, tho.
We have Elon Musk to save us.


/s/


-cap

 

[1G12]

A major climate report will slam the door on wishful thinking

A major climate report will slam the door on wishful thinking

The IPCC is likely to say that even the most optimistic scenario for climate change isn’t great at all.

by Umair Irfan, Energy & Environment, Vox, Oct 5, 2018


The leading international body of climate change researchers is preparing to release a major report Sunday night on the impacts of global warming and what it would take to cap warming at 1.5 degrees Celsius, or 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit, above pre-industrial levels, a goal that looks increasingly unlikely.

The report is from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, an international consortium of hundreds of climate researchers convened by the United Nations. Authors are meeting this week in Incheon, South Korea, to finalize their findings, but Climate Home News obtained an early leaked draft.

Why examine the prospects for limiting global warming to 1.5°C? Because under the Paris agreement, countries agreed that the goal should be to limit warming to below 2°C by 2100, with a nice-to-have target of capping warming at 1.5°C.

According to the drafts, the report finds that it would take a massive global effort, far more aggressive than any we’ve seen to date, to keep warming in line with 1.5°C — in part because we are already en route to 3°C of warming. And even if we hit the 1.5°C goal, the planet will still face massive, devastating changes. So it’s pretty grim.

But this is also a thunderous call to action, laying out what tools we have at our disposal (we have plenty) to mitigate global warming and to accelerate the turn toward cleaner energy.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Regardless. We're fucked now mate.

 

[1G12]

Regardless. We're fucked now mate.

I think you are right. While we're all yammering about weather or not humans are responsible for the state of things we really should be talking about what we could be doing about it....what sorts of alternative fuels to use and the infrastructure needed for distribution.
You know, there weren't any gas stations when we went from the horse and buggy days to automobiles and it really didn't take forever to eventually make the change. We just need to get with it, get started and do it again. Probably will require some sort of political will...and it ain't there these days.

 

[igrowone]

a very big bet has been laid down on electric vehicles
the cost per mile of an electric vehicle has gone below gas cars for a while
your gasoline car is costing you money, and that's in plain economic terms, not politics
stuff is being done, but it's slow

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I'd get one of I could. There's dozen new Tesla charging stations just down the road from me.

 

[igrowone]

yeah i see more charging posts myself
an inch at a time, just keeping inching forward, it adds up

 

[kickarse]

you blokes are certainly fanatical with your belief in the IPCC and the UN bullshit

"regardless. we're fucked now mate"

 

[TychoMonolyth]

you blokes are certainly fanatical with your belief in the IPCC and the UN bullshit

"regardless. we're fucked now mate"

Has nothing to do with fanaticism unless you think believing your doctor when he tells you you're diabetic is fanatical.

It's too late to argue about whether it's true or not anymore. The world you know will be your worst nightmare, but wait.... there's more... It WILL cost $50 trillion to fix this, IF we start now. But we won't because of idiots and it will collapse economies and governments. Mark my words, in one or two generations, it'll be illegal for governments to ignore scientific realities.

If you see a spark in the wood pile, all you have to do is throw your beer on it. But like all drunks, you're too fucking worried about your fucking beer. Now the wood pile is burning. To put it out we have to sacrifice ALL the beer and all the water. You won't of course so let the woodpile burn and it'll spread to your house, and surrounding forest faster than you can say "I don't believe it".

 

[kickarse]

$50,000,000,000,000 to fix what ?

it will certainly collapse a few western economy's if we do as the IPCC and the UN want
the UN is a typical mad socialist organization, out to control of everything
has one of their predictions come true, non of Al Gore's have, nor anyone else's

 

[TychoMonolyth]

To abandon fossil fuel and move to nuke or solar. Preferable solar.

The 3rd world had the benefit of a slight technological leap in communications. They didn't have to build a telecom infrastructure because mobile came around and that's all they had to install. I doubt very much we'll have that advantage with energy.

The climate will not only inundate coastal cities, it will kill millions with heat, water, cold, and hunger. Buy a 100lbs bag of white rice while it's cheap. You can't just say "instead of corn, I'll grow rice." That takes years. Empty grocery shelves are what we have to look forward to. But that's ok because you won't have a job to fill a cart. Our grand kids will never experience hunting for a spot to put the celery in the fridge, because it's full.

If we don't take it seriously, we'll be one great big of what Trump called a "Shithole" country.

 

[Ignignokt]

Has nothing to do with fanaticism unless you think believing your doctor when he tells you you're diabetic is fanatical.

It's too late to argue about whether it's true or not anymore. The world you know will be your worst nightmare, but wait.... there's more... It WILL cost $50 trillion to fix this, IF we start now. But we won't because of idiots and it will collapse economies and governments. Mark my words, in one or two generations, it'll be illegal for governments to ignore scientific realities.

If you see a spark in the wood pile, all you have to do is throw your beer on it. But like all drunks, you're too fucking worried about your fucking beer. Now the wood pile is burning. To put it out we have to sacrifice ALL the beer and all the water. You won't of course so let the woodpile burn and it'll spread to your house, and surrounding forest faster than you can say "I don't believe it".

You just have to let deniers be....
They will dance around and spout little snippets of whatever makes them feel clever regardless of what is happening because they are simply contrarian personalities.

For whatever subject on whatever topic there will ALWAYS be contrarian folks that CANNOT bend, regardless of facts, their ego won't allow it, like flat earthers.

 

[Yamaha FG-840]

It's called being functionally numerate: knowing 29% less in can't mean more than 100% out like your church teaches you.

Still kind of hung up on that 29% rock huh?

 

[Yamaha FG-840]

Like your grandpa believed his doctor when he was told pot was like heroin?

Has nothing to do with fanaticism unless you think believing your doctor when he tells you you're diabetic is fanatical.

It's too late to argue about whether it's true or not anymore. The world you know will be your worst nightmare, but wait.... there's more... It WILL cost $50 trillion to fix this, IF we start now. But we won't because of idiots and it will collapse economies and governments. Mark my words, in one or two generations, it'll be illegal for governments to ignore scientific realities.

If you see a spark in the wood pile, all you have to do is throw your beer on it. But like all drunks, you're too fucking worried about your fucking beer. Now the wood pile is burning. To put it out we have to sacrifice ALL the beer and all the water. You won't of course so let the woodpile burn and it'll spread to your house, and surrounding forest faster than you can say "I don't believe it".

The rest of your illuced ramble is more sounding like a foul mouthed drunk

screeching every time he drinks 29% out of a glass of beer, magic made more than 100% than the glass will hold come out of it.

To explain how he got so drunk.

 

[Yamaha FG-840]

That's the most ridiculous sh** anybody ever said about the climate of the planet.

To abandon fossil fuel and move to nuke or solar. Preferable solar.

The 3rd world had the benefit of a slight technological leap in communications. They didn't have to build a telecom infrastructure because mobile came around and that's all they had to install. I doubt very much we'll have that advantage with energy.

The climate will not only inundate coastal cities, it will kill millions with heat, water, cold, and hunger. Buy a 100lbs bag of white rice while it's cheap. You can't just say "instead of corn, I'll grow rice." That takes years. Empty grocery shelves are what we have to look forward to. But that's ok because you won't have a job to fill a cart. Our grand kids will never experience hunting for a spot to put the celery in the fridge, because it's full.

If we don't take it seriously, we'll be one great big of what Trump called a "Shithole" country.

From the same allegedly grown man who said "It's nearly the end of the world" and "When he joins a website and tells everyone there to repent because it's the end times, and they don't, he has a hard time controlling himself.''

 

[1G12]

What the IPCC actually is...from Wikipedia

What the IPCC actually is...from Wikipedia

you blokes are certainly fanatical with your belief in the IPCC and the UN bullshit "

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is a scientific and intergovernmental body under the auspices of the United Nations,[1][2] set up at the request of member governments, dedicated to the task of providing the world with an objective, scientific view of climate change and its political and economic impacts.

Thousands of scientists and other experts contribute (on a voluntary basis, without payment from the IPCC)[8] to writing and reviewing reports, which are then reviewed by governments.

The IPCC does not carry out its own original research, nor does it do the work of monitoring climate or related phenomena itself. The IPCC bases its assessment on the published literature, which includes peer-reviewed and non-peer-reviewed sources.[7]