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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

vta

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Crusader Rabbit

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Sorry--IMO, it has nothing to do with the images being pieced together--because technically--all of Google Earth's representations are 100% "images pieced together". And since the earth is basically a ball shaped (actually more elliptical than spherical) the image at any location would be "like looking straight into a mirror and expecting to see the top of your head". Breaking news--earth is not flat, lol.


I just took a look at Google Earth. The South Pole image is a series of north-south strips which are nested together. Each strip tapers to a point where they all nest together at the pole. Where they all meet together like spokes on a wheel, the tapered points are so thin, and packed together so tight, that there must be some difficulty deriving an image at this location. It's an artifact of their piecing together strips on a sphere to make a representation of the globe's surface.

The North Pole region doesn't even try to show the surface sea ice. Instead they have a representation of the Arctic sea bottom based upon bathymetric data.

Do you get these ideas from Alex Jones?
 

igrowone

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did some quick reading on HAARP, just curious what it was
sometimes humor comes in unexpected places, this is a quote from the wiki
HAARP is a target of conspiracy theorists, who claim that it was capable of "weaponizing" weather. Commentators and scientists say that advocates of this theory are "uninformed", as claims made fall well outside the abilities of the facility, if not the scope of natural science.
 

DocTim420

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I just took a look at Google Earth. The South Pole image is a series of north-south strips which are nested together. Each strip tapers to a point where they all nest together at the pole. Where they all meet together like spokes on a wheel, the tapered points are so thin, and packed together so tight, that there must be some difficulty deriving an image at this location. It's an artifact of their piecing together strips on a sphere to make a representation of the globe's surface.

The North Pole region doesn't even try to show the surface sea ice. Instead they have a representation of the Arctic sea bottom based upon bathymetric data.

Do you get these ideas from Alex Jones?

No. I watched an show on Discover Channel discussing several theories as to why the South Pole is off limits to civilians (alien space craft thing was the wackiest)...and it appears there might be some truth to those claims. I could not find a "real" picture anywhere...all pics I saw were "doctored". Not so of the North Pole. Hmmm. Check out the countries that have military/science installations...all the normal suspects are there. Why is that?
 

igrowone

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the anti HAARP sites throw around scary terms like 'changes to the atmosphere' and 'megawatts of energy' are accurate but misleading
the amount of energy delivered is very small compared to the energy already present
it's just fear mongering, at least at the global scale
 

alpo

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Hurricane Noel 2007
Hurricane Felix 2007
Hurricane Dean 2007
Hurricane Gustav 2008
Hurricane Paloma 2008
Major Hurricane Ike 2008
Hurricane Igor 2010
Hurricane Tomas 2010
Hurricane Irene 2011
Hurricane Sandy 2012
Hurricane Ingrid 2013
Hurricane Joaquin 2015
Hurricane Erika 2015

12 Hurricanes in 2010 - second most for a single year dating back to 1851
 

DocTim420

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Pics of the surface of Antarctic (South Pole) taken December 2016--

That little dot that is surrounded by shadows of country flags at the bottom of the 1st pic is the "South Pole" marker. That marker is not in the 2nd pic, but would be at around the 8 o'clock position--but that main building is visible.

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Link to US Antarctic Program https://www.usap.gov/

What wiki has to say--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station

Territorial map of South Pole--
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Hmm, it seems that there is more than "just snow" at the South Pole.

Pic of the surface Arctic (North Pole)--

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Link to US Arctic Program (oops there isn't one).

Hmmm, nothing of interest.....just snow.

So....how come no aerial pics of the South Pole? Google is in bed with the US Government--so we know they have both the availability and technology. Something funny here I say, something is just not right.
 

Crusader Rabbit

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the anti HAARP sites throw around scary terms like 'changes to the atmosphere' and 'megawatts of energy' are accurate but misleading
the amount of energy delivered is very small compared to the energy already present
it's just fear mongering, at least at the global scale


The amount of energy released by a hurricane is profoundly greater than humans can produce through an electrical generating system. Yet I read of people saying that governments are creating these storms and directing them as weapons. And the internet is full of similar nonsense. Who is gaming our society by posting all this misinformation? It's pretty incredible.
 

alpo

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The amount of energy released by a hurricane is profoundly greater than humans can produce through an electrical generating system. Yet I read of people saying that governments are creating these storms and directing them as weapons. And the internet is full of similar nonsense. Who is gaming our society by posting all this misinformation? It's pretty incredible.

The USA Military and Government themselves.
HAARP program was closed down.
 

therevverend

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This time every year I get curious about shipping through the Northwest Passage. As the ice over the North Pole melts earlier every year there is a huge increase in shipping.
A Finnish ice breaker set a new record for earliest Northwest Passage crossing. Traveling 10,000 km in 24 days from Alaska to Greenland.
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/07/earliest-crossing-of-the-northwest-passage-ever/535443/
In August the Chinese sent a couple ice breakers to test the feasibility of sending their cargo ships through to avoid the Panama and Suez Canal, pirates, and monsoons. Canada has no infrastructure yet to deal with the bilge water, solid waste, and sewage or a potential oil spill. Luxury cruise ships, merchant ships, small ships, big ships, over 150 ships are making the passage this summer. The area is pristine untainted wilderness now that it's opening up lots of countries are lining up to trash it.
Wow looking at the route the Chinese ice breaker took, it's going almost down the middle between Asia and Canada.
The Northern Sea Route above Russia currently ice free. Russia has big plans to develop it to allow oil tankers and cargo ships access to their Arctic ports. In August the first ships crossed Russia's Northern Sea Route without the use of ice breakers.
The northern route saves around $50,000 a day in transit costs while simultaneously removing the necessity for security teams on guard through the piracy zones. Just a matter of time before it becomes commercially viable on a large scale.
China and Russia are signing big deals to send Russian fuel to China. The Arctic will be very different 50 years from now. Someone (oil companies?) is going to make a ton of $$. They're investing money to build the infrastructure right now. They're going to come out big winners in the climate game.
 
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Green House Gas warming is the story that when light refractive insulation is mixed into a cold nitrogen bath that's conduction chilling the sunlight-warmed rocky planet,

sensors on the planet detect and depict - more and more warming sunlight warming the planet

with every percent less the insulating gases make reach it.

Thousands of magic gassers say that's real to them. Insulation
making less warming firelight reach a rock,
causes sensors to depict more firelight reaching that rock,
with each percent less the insulation allows to reach that rock.

''Hit's REEL, YaW!!! And YeW shudd bea SKAiR'D cauws YEW ain't SIGHNTSIE!''
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This coming from a congregation of people who can't tell you

what's wrong with a story about insulation
between a sensor and fire
making more firelight leak out of the sensor
by making less light leak into it.
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Yeah but - YeW GoDDa adMiT, thim climits, is a chANGiN! YaW!
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Oh, contraire. See in fact the climate is so astonishingly stable it took men many years to even come to international agreement it's unchanging: and in fact there is an

International Regulatory Physical Standard: named the International Standard Atmosphere,

and it describes the current climatic state in great detail, regarding the atmosphere and it's temperature,
it's pressure,
it's chemical makeup

and ultimately, in order to attain THAT international *unchanging physical standard,*

the amount of sunlight and other finites, arriving on it.

That's climate and by virtue of the fact it's etched into international regulatory physics stone, as being unchanging,

climate is no more changing than international atmospheric temperature, pressure, and chemical composition and sunlight load say it is.

And they all say it's stable enough to supply unchanging standards for calibrating instrumentation and apparatus related to heat or atmospheric action. [edited grammar]

It's stable enough that we regulate everything from your oven to your air conditioner based in the International Standard Atmosphere's condition, somewhere back along the line there,

* * * and if it were changing, everyone from the welder to the scuba instructor to the glider pilot to the airline pilot to the airline pressurized-cabin instrumentation people,

would be talking about that fact as part of their educations, from rudimentary to more finished, related to their daily work and bread/beer/B.B.Q * * *

The congregation swearing to you they see no problem with insulation mixed in a bath
blocking light to a rock
causing sensors to detect and depict ever more light reaching it
with each percent less the insulation causes to reach it,

are the same people who have no idea the International Standard Atmosphere exists and formally records unchanging parameters related to Atmospheric conditions,

and are the same people who see nothing wrong with their leadership not being able to calculate global temperature using proper gas law and reach the actual, International Standard Atmospheric temperature.

They reach a temperature that's 33 degrees short.

What did their computer fraud daddy tell the world he could do with superfast goverment computers?

Justify his bizarre claim he can calculate the temperature of our compressible-phase matter atmosphere,
using Stefan-Boltzmann radiation energy mechanics that don't account for compression:

to do Stefan-Boltzmann radiation energy mechanics on gases
you must have first done your proper mathematics related to *the compressible nature of gases*

Hansen claims he doesn't have to do it.

How many degrees' error are attained if one ''calculates'' global atmospheric temperature,

refusing to properly process the matter-energy relationships using gas law?

33 degrees.
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This is fraud so transparent a child can stun it's adherents into silence telling them - there's no such thing as more light leaving a rock
insulation makes less light reach.

The atmosphere isn't a 'big ol' giant sin heater'

it's a cold, conductive, light blocking bath of fluids,
laced with cooling green house gases that block 20% of otherwise-available warming firelight from the sun, such that they're refracted to space not thermalized: never to warm a sensor on earth or in it's atmosphere.

Light input to a light-warmed object is surface energy density reduction. Cooling.

Green House Gases block refract away half the sun's true infrared load, 20% of total warming sunlight.

Anyone who learns the first most basic principles regarding atmospheric science sees the entire so-called climate 'science' racket

is ''pot's like heroin'' on steroids.

This time it isn't ''them'' who are criminals to be scalped by lying, thieving, government employees,

it's everybody.

They were practicing up on your grandpa and grandma by making them sit still in class after class explaining that

thuh sighnts is sownd,
it's for shoar,

DEVIL WEED

and thim folks we'z got to SHOOT to FREE em from it
is glad to be rid of thim worthless lives thay wuzza livin,
deap in the throws, uv
REEFER MADNESS.

And wea got the CRITICAL SCIENTIFIC PEER REVIEW to PROVE it's REAL.

And to PUT yew in JAIL.
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The people of this planet who are helping this fraud along are the same type who were squealing that the pot must be like heroin or thim good govurmint men with reputations to purtect, wooden say it wuz.

And they're trying to lead their civilization down that very same road but not for one tenth of the people they treat like criminals and rob blind:

they want everyone to nod that more light leaks out of rocks as less goes in, if government men say so.
 
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