Have you looked at the North Pole lately?
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Hiddenjems
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One issue is that the climate models don’t incorporate this data into their models because they believe constantly updating the models leads to lack of confidence in said model.
Imagine a perfect climate model, and data for every cc of atmosphere on earth. Within minutes discrepancies appear between model and reality. It’s called sensitivity on initial conditions and it’s a hallmark of chaotic systems.
Do any work with differential equations and you’ll see it turn up.
where do you see "non-stop fear" ? if reporting facts is what you are referring to, then you are even further out in left field than i thought. why would you quote a post and put up a non-relevent meme ? if you have a reply to my post, do so. nothing in your meme counts...
So how come we have only had 1 day over 40C this summer instead of at least a week at a time a couple of times for the last few years in South Australia?
I can't give you an answer that hasn't been discussed many times before in the thread
counter the information as you see fit
Hiddenjems
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You DC!
The median ice is smaller in 2024!
arsekick
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"Left field" you've got to be joking Hippywhere do you see "non-stop fear" ? if reporting facts is what you are referring to, then you are even further out in left field than i thought. why would you quote a post and put up a non-relevent meme ? if you have a reply to my post, do so. nothing in your meme counts...
it all counts, you believers will never admit you have been conned by the great "man made" climate scam
"where do you see non-stop fear" well I don't see it anywhere, because I don't believe the bullshit the media pumps out, its a constant bombardment of global warming bullshit.
Apparentlly man made Co2 causes hot weather, cold weather, floods, droughts, fires ect ect
its all bullshit, there is no global warming
Show me some definitive proof that man made Co2 causes anything, make sure you get your facts right, non of this "could" might or maybe garbage
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According to the man made climate change believers what I have reported on temp here in South Australia is like putting a glass of water in the oven and some of it getting really hot and some of it getting really cold.
Captain Red Eye
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This is a good point. It's a favored tool in the tyrant toolbox.
there is no absolute proof of much of anything. are you real? got a brain ? prove it beyonds a shadow of ANYONES doubt, convert ALL of those that think you DON'T have a brain. oh...and "good luck". science isn't absolute/concrete/never to change. it frequently evolves as more discoveries are made. but i'll go with the majority of scientists over your disbelief. you keep doing you, it doesn't bother me.
Hiddenjems
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Science is not done by consensus. In fact, it’s the opposite. No large committee of scientists came up with Newtons theory of universal gravitation, einsteins theory of relativity, or any other great groundbreaking theory.
It’s the lone new idea the consensus tries to disprove, but can’t. That’s science. Science requires a free flow of ideas to operate, not censorship of competing theories, no matter how far fetched.
Hiddenjems
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Some people would rather think for themselves and risk being wrong than let others do the thinking and risk being tricked.
Hiddenjems
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partly true, the innovation was done by individuals in those cases
but it was consensus that incorporated those theories into the body of knowledge we call science
without consensus these theories would not have affected the world in the way they did
arsekick
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there is no absolute proof of much of anything. are you real? got a brain ? prove it beyonds a shadow of ANYONES doubt, convert ALL of those that think you DON'T have a brain. oh...and "good luck". science isn't absolute/concrete/never to change. it frequently evolves as more discoveries are made. but i'll go with the majority of scientists over your disbelief. you keep doing you, it doesn't bother me.
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Do you understand the difference between weather and climate, between regional and global, between short term and long term, between single point data and averages?
We had two days more with temperatures sub zero here this month than one year ago, do you conclude from that there is no global warming?
Global warming can even lead to cooler temperatures locally for example because of cloudage caused by more water evaporating into the atmosphere, depending on for example on the altitude of clouds and time of the day. Dense, low clouds reflect sunlight during the day, keeping them from warming the planet, while at night they keep thermal radiation from radiating into space. High cirrus clouds allow sunlight from above to pass but not thermal radiation from below, so they contribute to global warming.
99 percent of scientists dealing with climate change consider it real, there is literally no controversy from a scientific point of view. How probable do you consider it that virtually the entire gobal scientific community has been conspiring against mankind for decades?
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The Smithsonian institute you seem to be quoting does not at all doubt man made climate change caused by greenhouse gas emissions, for starters, nor does it deny that this man made climate change poses a threat to our species.
To quote from the article I linked below: “Earth’s ability to endure dramatic temperature shifts does not guarantee the same for human societies,” she says, as we evolved and thrived under colder conditions, often in places near sea level that are becoming increasingly inundated as a warmer climate causes sea levels to rise.
Do you understand where on your graph mankind has entered the stage?
Do you understand the difference between naturally caused temperature swings caused for example by Milankovitch cycles (changes in orbital shape, axial tilt and axial wobble),with temperature changes of +/- 2 degrees Celsius over hundreds of thousands of years that actually swing back, because they are cycles, and human activity increasing the average surface temperature by the same amount in only 250 years with no built in rebound to pre industrial temperatures, and instead an open end?
arsekick
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So you want to go back to the "Little Ice Age" that finished about 1850.
Funny how global temps have rebounded since then and its all "mans" fault
You're wasting your time with these fools @Frosty Nuggets
Its back to La Nina and more cold wet shit weather, no doubt caused by the "man made" Co2
