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Have You Been Vaccinated?

Have You Been Vaccinated?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 62 31.5%
  • No!

    Votes: 41 20.8%
  • Soon!

    Votes: 15 7.6%
  • No Way!

    Votes: 65 33.0%
  • I Just Wanna Watch!

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    197

Thegreengrower64

Well-known member
trump very famously does not exercise. Limited battery life or something he says.

he eats fast food for every meal.

he is vaccinated and alive.

you have been bamboozled
Your allegory doesn't work. Try again.
You'll do anything but admit you're wrong and that you made serious mistakes.
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
My only vaccine regret is that I come in here almost daily to engage with anti vaccine crazies. Mr Mustard seems to have the right idea, haven't seen him here for a while.

Why wouldn't you get a vaccine that is much safer than the disease itself? All the stats point to the fact that getting Covid has much worse health outcomes than being vaccinated, and better health outcomes if you do contract the virus after being vaccinated.

Just had my annual flu shot and will get the covid one again in September.
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
Can you read a graph?
Screenshot (5).jpeg
 

BudToaster

Well-known member
Veteran
the fact that getting Covid has much worse health outcomes than being vaccinated,
not for me. i got Covid OG and was down for 24 hours. i have also survived Delta and Omicron with just a feeling of blahs. a nothing burger.

no one knows what's in the shot - i don't take experimental, untested, and provably unsafe drugs - all risk, no benefit.
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
not for me. i got Covid OG and was down for 24 hours. i have also survived Delta and Omicron with just a feeling of blahs. a nothing burger.

no one knows what's in the shot - i don't take experimental, untested, and provably unsafe drugs - all risk, no benefit.
Nice anecdote and I'm sure it's the same for most people. That doesn't discount the fact that statistically you are more likely to get worse health outcomes from Covid than the vaccine.
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
Veteran
Repeated infections with COVID-19 is similar to heart disease. At first you don’t notice any changes, until you have a heart attack.
Infection 1 - endothelia damage (not noticed)
Infection 2 - endothelia damage (not noticed)
Rinse, repeat
Infection 5 - endothelia damage (Heart attack)

COVID-19 has significant effects on the endothelial lining, contributing to a range of vascular complications.


Mechanisms of Endothelial Dysfunction:

1. Direct Viral Infection: - SARS-CoV-2 can directly infect endothelial cells via the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor, leading to endothelial cell injury and dysfunction[1][2][4][10][16].

2. Indirect Mechanisms: - The virus induces a cytokine storm, which leads to an excessive inflammatory response. This inflammation can cause endothelial cell activation, oxidative stress, and damage[2][4][7][10][19]. - Hypercytokinaemia, particularly involving IL-6 and TNF, increases vascular permeability and promotes endothelial cell apoptosis and dysfunction[7][10][19].

3. Coagulation & Thrombosis: - Endothelial dysfunction contributes to a pro-thrombotic state, leading to microvascular & macrovascular thrombosis. This includes the formation of microthrombi & larger clots, which can result in complications such as stroke, myocardial infarction, and deep vein thrombosis[2][4][6][8][12][16].

4. Barrier Function Disruption: - Damage to the endothelial glycocalyx and tight junctions increases vascular permeability, leading to edema & further inflammation. This disruption can affect multiple organs, including the lungs, kidneys, and brain[9][16][19].

Implications:

1. Multi-Organ Injury: - Endothelial dysfunction in COVID-19 is associated with multi-organ injury, including acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), myocardial injury, acute kidney injury, and liver damage[1][4][16].

2. Long COVID: - Persistent endothelial dysfunction is thought to contribute to the Long Covid COVID-19. Symptoms such as fatigue, chest pain, and neuro-cognitive difficulties are associated with ongoing endothelial damage[5][9][18].

Sources:

[1] Endothelial dysfunction in COVID-19: an overview of evidence ... https://nature.com/articles/s41401-022-00998-0…
[2] Endothelial dysfunction in COVID-19: an overview of evidence ... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36253560/
[3] Endothelial dysfunction and cardiovascular risk in post-COVID-19 ... https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s15010-024-02173-5…
[4] Endothelial Dysfunction in Covid-19 Infection - PMC - NCBI https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8802031/…
[5] Long COVID 19 Syndrome: Is It Related to Microcirculation and ... https://frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2021.745758/full…
[6] Mechanisms of endothelial activation, hypercoagulation and ... https://cardiab.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12933-023-02097-8…
[7] Immunity, endothelial injury and complement-induced coagulopathy ... https://nature.com/articles/s41581-020-00357-4…
[8] Endothelial Injury in COVID-19 and Acute Infections - AHA Journals https://ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/ATVBAHA.121.316101…
[9] Damage to endothelial barriers and its contribution to long COVID https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10456-023-09878-5…
[10] The Endothelium and COVID-19: An Increasingly Clear Link Brief Title https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9181280/…
[11] Endothelial contribution to COVID-19: an update on mechanisms ... https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8610843/…
[12] Endothelial Cell Contributions to COVID-19 - PMC - NCBI https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7600722/…
[13] Endothelial SARS-CoV-2 infection is not the underlying cause of ... https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10562591/…
[14] Your vascular system and COVID | Heart and Stroke Foundation https://heartandstroke.ca/articles/a-quick-guide-to-your-vascular-system…
[15] COVID-19 is, in the end, an endothelial disease - Oxford Academic https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/41/32/3038/5901158…
[16] Endothelial cell dysfunction: a major player in SARS-CoV-2 infection ... https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/56/1/2001634…
[17] COVID-19: Respiratory or Vascular Disease? - Healthline https://healthline.com/health/covid-respiratory-or-vascular…
[18] COVID-19 and the Vasculature: Current Aspects and Long-Term ... https://frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2022.824851/full…
[19] COVID-19 Vasculopathy: Mounting Evidence for an Indirect ... - NCBI https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8141344/…
[20] COVID-19 and the endothelium - PubMed https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32568187/
 

Greenfingers420UK

Active member
There seem ALOT more ill people nowadays, with 4 deaths in the last month at work.
All we need is God :)
Graphs are mostly made up, just like the science
 

Thegreengrower64

Well-known member
Repeated infections with COVID-19 is similar to heart disease. At first you don’t notice any changes, until you have a heart attack.
Infection 1 - endothelia damage (not noticed)
Infection 2 - endothelia damage (not noticed)
Rinse, repeat
Infection 5 - endothelia damage (Heart attack)

COVID-19 has significant effects on the endothelial lining, contributing to a range of vascular complications.


Mechanisms of Endothelial Dysfunction:

1. Direct Viral Infection: - SARS-CoV-2 can directly infect endothelial cells via the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor, leading to endothelial cell injury and dysfunction[1][2][4][10][16].

2. Indirect Mechanisms: - The virus induces a cytokine storm, which leads to an excessive inflammatory response. This inflammation can cause endothelial cell activation, oxidative stress, and damage[2][4][7][10][19]. - Hypercytokinaemia, particularly involving IL-6 and TNF, increases vascular permeability and promotes endothelial cell apoptosis and dysfunction[7][10][19].

3. Coagulation & Thrombosis: - Endothelial dysfunction contributes to a pro-thrombotic state, leading to microvascular & macrovascular thrombosis. This includes the formation of microthrombi & larger clots, which can result in complications such as stroke, myocardial infarction, and deep vein thrombosis[2][4][6][8][12][16].

4. Barrier Function Disruption: - Damage to the endothelial glycocalyx and tight junctions increases vascular permeability, leading to edema & further inflammation. This disruption can affect multiple organs, including the lungs, kidneys, and brain[9][16][19].

Implications:

1. Multi-Organ Injury: - Endothelial dysfunction in COVID-19 is associated with multi-organ injury, including acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), myocardial injury, acute kidney injury, and liver damage[1][4][16].

2. Long COVID: - Persistent endothelial dysfunction is thought to contribute to the Long Covid COVID-19. Symptoms such as fatigue, chest pain, and neuro-cognitive difficulties are associated with ongoing endothelial damage[5][9][18].

Sources:

[1] Endothelial dysfunction in COVID-19: an overview of evidence ... https://nature.com/articles/s41401-022-00998-0…
[2] Endothelial dysfunction in COVID-19: an overview of evidence ... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36253560/
[3] Endothelial dysfunction and cardiovascular risk in post-COVID-19 ... https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s15010-024-02173-5…
[4] Endothelial Dysfunction in Covid-19 Infection - PMC - NCBI https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8802031/…
[5] Long COVID 19 Syndrome: Is It Related to Microcirculation and ... https://frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2021.745758/full…
[6] Mechanisms of endothelial activation, hypercoagulation and ... https://cardiab.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12933-023-02097-8…
[7] Immunity, endothelial injury and complement-induced coagulopathy ... https://nature.com/articles/s41581-020-00357-4…
[8] Endothelial Injury in COVID-19 and Acute Infections - AHA Journals https://ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/ATVBAHA.121.316101…
[9] Damage to endothelial barriers and its contribution to long COVID https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10456-023-09878-5…
[10] The Endothelium and COVID-19: An Increasingly Clear Link Brief Title https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9181280/…
[11] Endothelial contribution to COVID-19: an update on mechanisms ... https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8610843/…
[12] Endothelial Cell Contributions to COVID-19 - PMC - NCBI https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7600722/…
[13] Endothelial SARS-CoV-2 infection is not the underlying cause of ... https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10562591/…
[14] Your vascular system and COVID | Heart and Stroke Foundation https://heartandstroke.ca/articles/a-quick-guide-to-your-vascular-system…
[15] COVID-19 is, in the end, an endothelial disease - Oxford Academic https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/41/32/3038/5901158…
[16] Endothelial cell dysfunction: a major player in SARS-CoV-2 infection ... https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/56/1/2001634…
[17] COVID-19: Respiratory or Vascular Disease? - Healthline https://healthline.com/health/covid-respiratory-or-vascular…
[18] COVID-19 and the Vasculature: Current Aspects and Long-Term ... https://frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2022.824851/full…
[19] COVID-19 Vasculopathy: Mounting Evidence for an Indirect ... - NCBI https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8141344/…
[20] COVID-19 and the endothelium - PubMed https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32568187/
Go away , take your bullshit elsewhere.
There never was any covid, never any sars cov2 except in a petri dish.
All computer modelling .
Virus theory debunked.
Put as many graphs and links as you like, it's all lies.
 

So Hai

Well-known member
So you can't read a graph?
Lucky you can find a youtube clip though.
They are not youtube clips, they are from bitchute. And yes I can read your graph but also learned early that there are lies, damned lies and statistics. It is genocidal government-capital propaganda.

 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
This thread just gets funnier each day.
There is no covid.
Science is made up.
Go to Bitchute for accurate information.

:laughing:
 

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