It will just go away "like a miracle".
Not knocking general health advice like having adequate D, but this is a virus.
Are you sure you're a doctor, M? I have my doubts?
I believe this was recommended for side effects - context?
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I believe this was recommended for side effects - context?
not sure if this is in response to my post but there are numerous sources, some of which are peer reviewed.
Doctor M I don’t have the energy to trash all of your misleading graphs and bogus studies, but i will include a comment from the medrvix link you provided:
bgoo2 • 2 days ago
To all the people commenting on this article who have no idea how to critically evaluate study methodology.... let's just skip over the lack of control variables and omission of addressing the Santa's naughty list of biases.
Let's just get right to the bones of it... while you are searching for your "natural immunity" as opposed to vaccination (how did that go with Polio, by the way? And Tetanus? And Rubella? And Hepatitis? ... hint: those vaccines came out before the Twitter era) ... where the FAHQK do you intend to keep the millions of symptomatic infected people who require hospitalization while they recover?
How did that work out in 2020? How is that working out now? Every whack job shouting about natural immunity doesn't seem to acknowledge that to get there... you have to sacrifice a whole lot of people who would've otherwise been protected by a vaccine.
Alabama USA has less than 5 million people. 38% of the population is double vaccinated as of August 31. Nearly 2500 people are in hospital with mild to severe Covid symptoms.
Ontario Canada has 15 million people. Triple the population. 67% double vaccinated. Less than 350 hospitalized.
We can repeat these comparisons across the globe. The results of this years' vaccination program is completely undeniable.
The results in an under-vaccinated population is undeniable.
Thankfully, each day, the percentage of unvaccinated grows smaller and smaller.
And it is very quickly isolating who the remaining lunatics are in your community. (hint: they're ironically usually the ones who clearly have trouble saying NO to refined carbohydrates)
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bgoo2 • 2 days ago
To all the people commenting on this article who have no idea how to critically evaluate study methodology.... let's just skip over the lack of control variables and omission of addressing the Santa's naughty list of biases.
Let's just get right to the bones of it... while you are searching for your "natural immunity" as opposed to vaccination (how did that go with Polio, by the way? And Tetanus? And Rubella? And Hepatitis? ... hint: those vaccines came out before the Twitter era) ... where the FAHQK do you intend to keep the millions of symptomatic infected people who require hospitalization while they recover?
How did that work out in 2020? How is that working out now? Every whack job shouting about natural immunity doesn't seem to acknowledge that to get there... you have to sacrifice a whole lot of people who would've otherwise been protected by a vaccine.
Alabama USA has less than 5 million people. 38% of the population is double vaccinated as of August 31. Nearly 2500 people are in hospital with mild to severe Covid symptoms.
Ontario Canada has 15 million people. Triple the population. 67% double vaccinated. Less than 350 hospitalized.
We can repeat these comparisons across the globe. The results of this years' vaccination program is completely undeniable.
The results in an under-vaccinated population is undeniable.
Thankfully, each day, the percentage of unvaccinated grows smaller and smaller.
And it is very quickly isolating who the remaining lunatics are in your community. (hint: they're ironically usually the ones who clearly have trouble saying NO to refined carbohydrates)
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Conrad Haelterman
@CHaelterman
Belgian GP Conrad Haelterman says via social media: “Vaccinating young people with a healthy immune system with THIS vaccine is criminal. We make them sick. I see it every day in my practice. People in their twenties and thirties, sporty and hard workers, are suddenly unable to move forward. Blood […] gives strange images.”
@CHaelterman
Belgian GP Conrad Haelterman says via social media: “Vaccinating young people with a healthy immune system with THIS vaccine is criminal. We make them sick. I see it every day in my practice. People in their twenties and thirties, sporty and hard workers, are suddenly unable to move forward. Blood […] gives strange images.”
I had covid symptoms for 2-3 days that were by the sound of it milder than what you got from that jab, other than that only a dry cough that lasted a bit longer.
I can understand if those in an at risk group would want it as it would give some milder symptoms if and when infected. But if not then, what is the point of taking the jab other than enriching a few capitalists? Money and the love of it is the reason behind this scare (in reality, a mild virus that near all survive):
”Pfizer stands to benefit over the next few years from its partnership with BioNTech on this breakthrough vaccine. In Pfizer's first-quarter earnings report, CEO Albert Bourla said first-quarter sales from just the COVID-19 vaccine brought in $3.5 billion, accounting for about 24% of revenue. Additionally, the company outperformed analyst expectations, reporting $0.93 in EPS and total revenue of $14.58 billion for the first quarter of 2021. Management also noted that sales for the full year from the vaccine alone should reach about $26 billion. This was revised up from the previous estimate of $15 billion.
Pfizer has been struggling to increase sales over the past five years, with average revenue growth over that time sitting at an abysmal 0.05%. The commercial success of its vaccine will make it a great driver for growth well into the future. In addition to its possible contract with the EU, Pfizer has reached an agreement with Canada for about 65 million doses through 2023. The company has just received approval from Health Canada, the department that sets Canada's national health policy, for treating adolescents age 12 to 15 with the vaccine.”
https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/...tock-for-2021/
moose eater
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That's part of the whole misconception; folks thinking that their own experience is -the- experience, and that COVID has consistent or predictable outcomes.
The facts include that COVID has killed relatively healthy persons, and for some who are immunocompromised, who most would assume that statistically, would be goners, have survived, with varying degrees of illness.
Seeing COVID only through the eyes of 'me and my experience' leads to false assumptions. A fellow in his later 60s, with 2 forms of cancer, had COVID upon returning to the Yukon Territory from Ireland with his daughter, at a time that the hospital they went to weren't even aware enough of COVID to know to test for it; he was most of the way through it, before someone tested him, and confirmed that was what he was dealing with. He went on to whip one of his cancers, but the other is now killing him.
While I was in the hospital up here, dealing with a massive infection a surgeon had left unaddressed, an acquaintance in his late 60's/about 70, who had made lots of assumptions about what COVID is and isn't, died on another floor in the hospital; he was pretty healthy, relatively speaking, a pilot, and fit & trim..
That same week here, that hospital had a 20-something-year-old woman die of COVID, and about 6 months before that we saw an MMA fighter (retired) in his later 40's, otherwise regarded locally as being as "healthy as an ox", die from COVID in the local hospital, as well.
While the profits Pfizer & others have made from this scourge are outrageous, it's a major error in thinking to assume that COVID has predictable outcomes and is consistently benign for the young or healthy. It's just not so.
troutman
Seed Whore
Things are getting retarded. If you want to go to a restaurant you'll need a vaccine passport after Sept. 22.
But employees don't need one like Covid won't infect the employees. I am smarter than the experts again.
https://www.thestar.com/politics/pro...iders-say.html
But employees don't need one like Covid won't infect the employees. I am smarter than the experts again.
https://www.thestar.com/politics/pro...iders-say.html
Many make the error that disease is beaten by robust health and a good immune system when it's mostly genes.
i stand corrected
moose eater
Well-known member
I think it's the whole mish-mash of variables, combined at a specific moment in time.
Many of our 'diseases' such as cancer, etc., can be tracked through genetics/conveyance, but lifestyle, diet, physical fitness, what's happening in terms of stressors (cortisol, etc.) all play a role at that moment in time when we face what ever it is.
I'm ordinarily the last person in our house to get ill; everyone else falls prey before me, and that's often how I've known I may be in line for what ever it is. But then changes in the body occur, stressors in life happen, other diseases step up to bat, and suddenly the immune system is almost non-existent. (Speaking from this last spring's experiences...).
I believe, in addition to that, COVID is a unique beast, a truly 'novel virus', that really acts differently in each person, based on viral load, and all the rest of the mix.
I routinely take Vit. D3 in hefty dose, Zinc, Vit C from bioflavonoids, B12, E, Potassium, Magnesium, etc., etc. almost all of them in increased dosage, per age requirements. I've been mostly sticking to a vegan diet that's high in (half-cooked/half-raw) cruciferous veggies, tofu, very little soy protein that's not fermented, etc., cheating a bit when we've gone to the bush, yet the 3rd jab, after leaving me alone long enough to get my town errands done the other day (Wednesday) kicked my ass pretty good; still had chills last night and this morning.
So I think many of these things are the result of a snap-shot in time of where our body (and even mind/emotions) are at, at that moment when we're exposed..
And yeah, sucking down milkshakes and similar, eating unhealthy fats in high volume, refined foods, etc., while being 80 to 120 lbs. overweight, as in Unc's pic, likely is a huge set-up for nasty outcomes, especially if the genetics and the rest are in agreement that it's time to pay some dues.
Gonna' shave to get a good seal on my GVS Elipse P100 mask, in order to go to the post office in our 'village' and send an assortment of recently harvested spuds to a forum member. Then on with chores, including sealing and freezing some of the recent harvest. The resin content was elevated enough that they literally took twice as long to dry, and some are STILL drying after 2 weeks in trays. The down-side to a successful go. Soon to be extracting THC-A extract in order to make the cancer unhappy.
clearly immunity comes from eating green chile from the mesilla valley and riding bikes...single case anecdotal evidence is enough right? that's just science!
Yes I get that plus the jolt from unc's picture. I'm more thinking of the supermen in the room who contend that their health status excludes them from susceptibility to a measly virus. I'm pretty damn healthy myself outside of pretzel shaped bones n joints and it got me.
clearly immunity comes from eating green chile from the mesilla valley and riding bikes...single case anecdotal evidence is enough right? that's just science!
fukyou...its red cayenne peppers
sure,if you just want hot with no actual flavor
one word,fire roasted hatch green chili
sure,if you just want hot with no actual flavor
one word,fire roasted hatch green chili
moose eater
Well-known member
Those are the folks who are certain it's a hoax, a 'plandemic', and a conspiracy, lost in their delusions, until they're on a respirator, and too far gone to make any meaningful improvement to their condition, other than to maybe recalibrate their spiritual leanings.
That pilot/acquaintance who died while I was in the hospital up here; airborne, Air Guard, sky-diver, pilot (you know; routine physicals and all of that), proud of his physical prowess, shitty karma, etc., etc., also was certain it was "just the flu", until his lungs were full of pink paste, and the nurses commented that they had a COVID-denier who wasn't going to make it.
I didn't know who they were talking about until after I got discharged.
There's a thousand better ways to die than the way he went. I tell people, "Imagine drowning on mud." That sometimes gets their attention.
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i dunno man,it would make a pretty lame relleno...
