Have You Been Vaccinated?

[Cuddles]

so I went to the doctors this week to pick up a prescription and whilst I phoned them about it in advance I asked about the vaccines. I had mentioned on this forum (somewhere, maybe on this thread even) that I asked them about it around spring time and they had put me on the waiting list.
Now just recently there has been news about the vax center more or less closing and all who have not been vaccinated are more or less being put to shame. There´s all this discussion about a 2 class system etc.
I find this extremely unfair and the way our local government has handled th whole situation regarding testing and vaccinating has been really sh*t to say the least!
Anyway as I asked I was told that they have not got enough vaccines! The official line is however that there is more than enough to go round but that people are refusing to get a vax. This is just not true!
The real problem is though that the vaccines are not being distributed properly!
In addition you need a corona test to say, go to the hairdresser etc but very soon people will have to pay good money for it. Given the fact that there´s millions already living on or below the poverty line and with so many having become unemployed and relying on the dole this is incredibly unfair. Because even those who have had the vax are gonn ahave to pay for it too!
So all this talk and handling of it over here is really pissing me off.

sorry about the little rant!

 

[moose eater]

so I went to the doctors this week to pick up a prescription and whilst I phoned them about it in advance I asked about the vaccines. I had mentioned on this forum (somewhere, maybe on this thread even) that I asked them about it around spring time and they had put me on the waiting list.
Now just recently there has been news about the vax center more or less closing and all who have not been vaccinated are more or less being put to shame. There´s all this discussion about a 2 class system etc.
I find this extremely unfair and the way our local government has handled th whole situation regarding testing and vaccinating has been really sh*t to say the least!
Anyway as I asked I was told that they have not got enough vaccines! The official line is however that there is more than enough to go round but that people are refusing to get a vax. This is just not true!
The real problem is though that the vaccines are not being distributed properly!
In addition you need a corona test to say, go to the hairdresser etc but very soon people will have to pay good money for it. Given the fact that there´s millions already living on or below the poverty line and with so many having become unemployed and relying on the dole this is incredibly unfair. Because even those who have had the vax are gonn ahave to pay for it too!
So all this talk and handling of it over here is really pissing me off.

sorry about the little rant!

Not sure what location you're in, but in the Interior of Alaska, you can get t4ested OR vaccinated for free at the airport, whether you're arriving or departing on a plane, or not, and one outfit that tests for some specific foreign trips is using antibody tests, the other primary outfit/company is using antigen/molecular tests, that better determine of a person has COVID -right now-, which is the test we recently needed for a trip into semi-remote Canada; had our results about 20 minutes after the swabbing, and it was a shallow nose swab, with no gouging the brain from the back of the head, via the sinuses. Tickled a bit, but no serious discomfort.

Likely going in there myself in the very near future, to acquire the third Moderna vax, due to having had tumors removed recently, and hoping it leaves out the side effects that came with the second shot, as they were, indeed, more than a bit unpleasant.

Good luck Cuddles. Is it possible that you need to locate a different outlet in your area, or are the pharmacies the ones that are I.D.ed as having that task where you live?

 

[Cuddles]

Not sure what location you're in, but in the Interior of Alaska, you can get t4ested OR vaccinated for free at the airport, whether you're arriving or departing on a plane, or not, and one outfit that tests for some specific foreign trips is using antibody tests, the other primary outfit/company is using antigen/molecular tests, that better determine of a person has COVID -right now-, which is the test we recently needed for a trip into semi-remote Canada; had our results about 20 minutes after the swabbing, and it was a shallow nose swab, with no gouging the brain from the back of the head, via the sinuses. Tickled a bit, but no serious discomfort.

Likely going in there myself in the very near future, to acquire the third Moderna vax, due to having had tumors removed recently, and hoping it leaves out the side effects that came with the second shot, as they were, indeed, more than a bit unpleasant.

Good luck Cuddles. Is it possible that you need to locate a different outlet in your area, or are the pharmacies the ones that are I.D.ed as having that task where you live?

Hi Moose, vaccines at an airport? They didn´t even supply GPs properly over here. And at pharmacies? They did do some testing but no shots. No, the main problem and also the main motto here is in this country is to be as unflexible as possible! Like I said they say there´s vaccines available but that people don´t want them, which is simply untrue. There are many reasons why people cannot or are not happy traveling to the vax center here.
I live in a fairly big city with a few million people for instance and heck you can get infected just travelling there on public transport for example. And there are practiclly no parking spots either as it´s in the centere of town and when you do find one, well it´s really expensive because getting your shot takes half the day. And this is another issue: If they distributed the vaccines to the doctors (where they pretty much belong anyway) peoople could get to them much more easily and more quickly.

There are many other reasons why people cannot take the day off, spend money on getting to the center in order to get the shot. If have my own persnal reasons too.
I got family in NY and my cousin who is trained in a medical profession told me that there were offering shots left right and center- like in pharmacies, doctors surgeries etc. Kinda like they did in the UK. Which is why much more people could get it in a shorter period of time.
Honestly, I am hugely dissapointed with the local government over here and if I get a chance I´ll be voting these tossers out at the next opportunity.

Oh, I hope you don´t get any bad side effects moose because I knoow that in your current condition it´s the last thing you need on top of the other crap ! hope you´re getting better

 

[audiohi]

Now i'm sold.... 1 crate of APPLE FLAVOURED Ivermectin on it's way.

Your horse is going to LLLLLOVE that shit!

 

[moose eater]

Hi Moose, vaccines at an airport? They didn´t even supply GPs properly over here. And at pharmacies? They did do some testing but no shots. No, the main problem and also the main motto here is in this country is to be as unflexible as possible! Like I said they say there´s vaccines available but that people don´t want them, which is simply untrue. There are many reasons why people cannot or are not happy traveling to the vax center here.
I live in a fairly big city with a few million people for instance and heck you can get infected just travelling there on public transport for example. And there are practiclly no parking spots either as it´s in the centere of town and when you do find one, well it´s really expensive because getting your shot takes half the day. And this is another issue: If they distributed the vaccines to the doctors (where they pretty much belong anyway) peoople could get to them much more easily and more quickly.

There are many other reasons why people cannot take the day off, spend money on getting to the center in order to get the shot. If have my own persnal reasons too.
I got family in NY and my cousin who is trained in a medical profession told me that there were offering shots left right and center- like in pharmacies, doctors surgeries etc. Kinda like they did in the UK. Which is why much more people could get it in a shorter period of time.
Honestly, I am hugely dissapointed with the local government over here and if I get a chance I´ll be voting these tossers out at the next opportunity.

Oh, I hope you don´t get any bad side effects moose because I knoow that in your current condition it´s the last thing you need on top of the other crap ! hope you´re getting better

No smugness intended, and different countries aside (therefore, different health care systems), I guess there are -definitely- some benefits to living in smaller populations. I have to drive for about a half-hour to the airport, and can call the airport manager on the phone, inquire about their inbound and departing flight schedules, let them know that I'm trying to access the testing and vaccinating area during a lull in traffic there, and they accommodate me without any judgement at all.

Same vaccines, same virus, same goals, and apparently a world of difference between your and my realities.

Thanks for the well-wishes re. the side-effects. I can likely do some research and find out if the prevalence is similar for the third shot as it was for the second. I have a hunch, but... I'll keep that to myself, lest I embarrass myself with undue cynicism.

For that reason, I may leave the 3rd jab until after the next fishing trip with my younger son; hate to add illness of one sort to another.

 

[Cuddles]

No smugness intended, and different countries aside (therefore, different health care systems), I guess there are -definitely- some benefits to living in smaller populations. I have to drive for about a half-hour to the airport, and can call the airport manager on the phone, inquire about their inbound and departing flight schedules, let them know that I'm trying to access the testing and vaccinating area during a lull in traffic there, and they accommodate me without any judgement at all.

Same vaccines, same virus, same goals, and apparently a world of difference between your and my realities.

Thanks for the well-wishes re. the side-effects. I can likely do some research and find out if the prevalence is similar for the third shot as it was for the second. I have a hunch, but... I'll keep that to myself, lest I embarrass myself with undue cynicism.

For that reason, I may leave the 3rd jab until after the next fishing trip with my younger son; hate to add illness of one sort to another.

I didn´t think you were being `smug´ about anything trouble over here is (I think) is that the politicians organized it, I really don´t know about the individual health insurances etc. But having mainly just 1 vaccine center for a few million people, and expecting everybody in town to get there in a matter of about 8-9 months, well that is just downright ignorance imo.
There should have been tons of vax centers plus all the doctors surgeries... but they just didn´t give them the vaccines required. And then they go and shame the people who haven´t had one, whilst complaining that thousands of dosages are going bad, well...now that just sucks...

 

[Amynamous]

Hi Moose, vaccines at an airport? They didn´t even supply GPs properly over here. And at pharmacies? They did do some testing but no shots. No, the main problem and also the main motto here is in this country is to be as unflexible as possible! Like I said they say there´s vaccines available but that people don´t want them, which is simply untrue. There are many reasons why people cannot or are not happy traveling to the vax center here.
I live in a fairly big city with a few million people for instance and heck you can get infected just travelling there on public transport for example. And there are practiclly no parking spots either as it´s in the centere of town and when you do find one, well it´s really expensive because getting your shot takes half the day. And this is another issue: If they distributed the vaccines to the doctors (where they pretty much belong anyway) peoople could get to them much more easily and more quickly.

There are many other reasons why people cannot take the day off, spend money on getting to the center in order to get the shot. If have my own persnal reasons too.
I got family in NY and my cousin who is trained in a medical profession told me that there were offering shots left right and center- like in pharmacies, doctors surgeries etc. Kinda like they did in the UK. Which is why much more people could get it in a shorter period of time.
Honestly, I am hugely dissapointed with the local government over here and if I get a chance I´ll be voting these tossers out at the next opportunity.

Oh, I hope you don´t get any bad side effects moose because I knoow that in your current condition it´s the last thing you need on top of the other crap ! hope you´re getting better

The US adopted a money driven approach and pumped hundreds of billions of dollars to get every American vaccinated. The direct government reimbursement amounted to $45 for the two shot series, and $28 for the JNJ single shot. That’s just for the “costs” associated with jabbing someone in the arm. Just the reimbursement provides a lot of incentive to jab people in the arm. That kind of cash allows for big vaccination events in stadiums where thousands of injections/day could be given, or small pharmacies could offer it to customers, or do outreach to people in senior centers, etc.

Edit: On March 15th, 2021 the reimbursement increased to $40 per jab, regardless of manufacturer.

 

[mexcurandero420]

The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 reprograms both adaptive and innate immune responses

Summary


The mRNA-based BNT162b2 vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech was the first registered COVID-19 vaccine and has been shown to be up to 95% effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections. Little is known about the broad effects of the new class of mRNA vaccines, especially whether they have combined effects on innate and adaptive immune responses. Here we confirmed that BNT162b2 vaccination of healthy individuals induced effective humoral and cellular immunity against several SARS-CoV-2 variants. Interestingly, however, the BNT162b2 vaccine also modulated the production of inflammatory cytokines by innate immune cells upon stimulation with both specific (SARS-CoV-2) and non-specific (viral, fungal and bacterial) stimuli. The response of innate immune cells to TLR4 and TLR7/8 ligands was lower after BNT162b2 vaccination, while fungi-induced cytokine responses were stronger. In conclusion, the mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine induces complex functional reprogramming of innate immune responses, which should be considered in the development and use of this new class of vaccines.

not peer viewed yet

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.03.21256520v1

 

[Cuddles]

The US adopted a money driven approach and pumped hundreds of billions of dollars to get every American vaccinated. The direct government reimbursement amounted to $45 for the two shot series, and $28 for the JNJ single shot. That’s just for the “costs” associated with jabbing someone in the arm. Just the reimbursement provides a lot of incentive to jab people in the arm. That kind of cash allows for big vaccination events in stadiums where thousands of injections/day could be given, or small pharmacies could offer it to customers, or do outreach to people in senior centers, etc.

Edit: On March 15th, 2021 the reimbursement increased to $40 per jab, regardless of manufacturer.

that´s a very interesting angle actually: the money involved. I´ve read that the `helpers´ in the vax centers here get 15 EUR / hour. And just for reference the minimum wage was aroung 8.50 EUR. I don´t think that a jab should be all that expensive - I mean it doesn´t take long , does it?
It seems like another thing the governments(S) have buggered up a little - the money factor.

 

[Hammerhead]

IMO it's your Govners that are failing to be honest with you. All of the bogus Vaccine BS is coming from them. Here in Cali, you can get a vac at most stores with a pharmacy all walk in no apt needed. We have some drive through in kaiser parking lots and other hospitals. They do require you to wait 15 min after the vac before driving. No charge at any of these places. Next time your voting change it to someone that will put your resident's needs 1st.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

Somehow I can see desantis getting reelected

 

[Amynamous]

that´s a very interesting angle actually: the money involved. I´ve read that the `helpers´ in the vax centers here get 15 EUR / hour. And just for reference the minimum wage was aroung 8.50 EUR. I don´t think that a jab should be all that expensive - I mean it doesn´t take long , does it?
It seems like another thing the governments(S) have buggered up a little - the money factor.

I believe the money factor played a big part of America’s success with vaccinating everyone who wanted one in record time. The US government spent somewhere between $300-400 per person to ensure everyone gets jabbed. That includes storage, transportation, labor, etc, etc. I’ve read of different locations in the US that struggled with one thing or another at the beginning, but with that much $$ being thrown at the task, they found a way.

Some large organizers in the US were hiring “travel nurses” and putting on mass vaccinations events and and paying good wages. I’m sure they did well. Large pharmacy chains were also hiring lots of nurses/techs and paying good wages(~$50.00/hour for fulltime temporary RN help). I tried to do both and wasn’t able to find an opportunity i liked. I ended up volunteering a lot at one of the mega events close to where i live, and not even getting lunch provided, lol, but i did receive lots of thank yous.

At the mass event I was helping at, we were averaging 1500-2000 jabs/day with most people receiving their injection within 10-15 minutes of arriving in the parking lot. That includes completing a questionnaire, answering a few questions and completing their vaccination card and completing the computer record keeping. There’s additional time for the recommended observation time of 15-30 minutes, but I don’t believe every place follows that guideline.

 

[audiohi]

Somehow I can see desantis getting reelected

I'm very interested in seeing how that plays out.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

I'm very interested in seeing how that plays out.

Agreed

 

[unclefishstick]

I believe the money factor played a big part of America’s success with vaccinating everyone who wanted one in record time. The US government spent somewhere between $300-400 per person to ensure everyone gets jabbed. That includes storage, transportation, labor, etc, etc. I’ve read of different locations in the US that struggled with one thing or another at the beginning, but with that much $$ being thrown at the task, they found a way.

Some large organizers in the US were hiring “travel nurses” and putting on mass vaccinations events and and paying good wages. I’m sure they did well. Large pharmacy chains were also hiring lots of nurses/techs and paying good wages(~$50.00/hour for fulltime temporary RN help). I tried to do both and wasn’t able to find an opportunity i liked. I ended up volunteering a lot at one of the mega events close to where i live, and not even getting lunch provided, lol, but i did receive lots of thank yous.

At the mass event I was helping at, we were averaging 1500-2000 jabs/day with most people receiving their injection within 10-15 minutes of arriving in the parking lot. That includes completing a questionnaire, answering a few questions and completing their vaccination card and completing the computer record keeping. There’s additional time for the recommended observation time of 15-30 minutes, but I don’t believe every place follows that guideline.

we're fortunate to have a good governor who made wise choices,and the health department made it easy to get the jab/s

 

[Gry]

we're fortunate to have a good governor who made wise choices,and the health department made it easy to get the jab/s

Looking at the number of governors who are acting more like obstructions than facilitators, I feel fortunate.
Would like to see vaccines more evenly and rapidly distributed. Medicare for all would make it more possible.

 

[unclefishstick]

Looking at the number of governors who are acting more like obstructions than facilitators, I feel fortunate.

it never should have become a political issue

 

[Amynamous]

Somehow I can see desantis getting reelected

He probably will get reelected. He’s doing a heck of a job with expanding the monoclonal antibody treatments in Florida.
More states should be following that example.

 

[member 505892]

Your horse is going to LLLLLOVE that shit!

I did a little horse whispering "Psst, the apple Ivermectin is on it's way buddy".... He's trying to play it cool.... trying....

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

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