Have You Been Vaccinated?

[Switcher56]

another quick update:
The injection was placed more or less just below the shoulder and the area from shoulder to neck is really hurting now, it´s a pinching pain. I guess it´s right where those muscles `run´.
I have issues with muscle tension there anyway so I put it down to that at first, even though I had an acupuncture session on tuesday.
But now, when I move my arm and shoulder around the entire region hurts. I guess the injection went into one of the acupuncture points.

Which jab did you get cuddles? The nerve I was talking about is the nerve Spock used to pinch on Star Trek. But is only lasted a couple of days. TBS, we are all different.

 

[h.h.]

Cannabis is not medicine per say. Possibly glaucoma and epilepsy.
It doesn’t take away pain. It was doesn’t cure anything.

 

[Cuddles]

Which jab did you get cuddles? The nerve I was talking about is the nerve Spock used to pinch on Star Trek. But is only lasted a couple of days. TBS, we are all different.

I got the biontech/pfizer one.

 

[Cuddles]

Cannabis is not medicine per say. Possibly glaucoma and epilepsy.
It doesn’t take away pain. It was doesn’t cure anything.

Something which kills cancer cells is pretty much medicine to me and it is known for other medicinal uses too, hence: medicine
A lot of the pharma meds out there don´t cure much - just the symptoms in a lot of cases...and causing other problems along the way too

 

[Switcher56]

I got the biontech/pfizer one.

Thank you. I was discussing your case/woes with my wife at breakfast this am. The soreness that travels up the nerve I mentioned earlier was more severe/intense with the Pfizer vaccine, which I also stated. A friend of mine in the UK, both he and his wife both had the Pfizer, and she went on without missing a beat, with the exception of the injection site which is normal.

 

[h.h.]

Something which kills cancer cells is pretty much medicine to me and it is known for other medicinal uses too, hence: medicine
A lot of the pharma meds out there don´t cure much - just the symptoms in a lot of cases...and causing other problems along the way too

In vitro.
If you have cancer and smoke pot, you’re still going to have cancer. It may very well have saved some of us from getting cancer, but we don’t know that and there are no glaring statistics to back up that idea.
Seriously, many in the medical field are out to defeat cancer. I imagine a few of them smoke pot or have smoked pot. If it had value, it would be exploited.

It’s just pot. Folks enjoy it. That should be enough.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

everyone thinks they want a ,but i can tell you the day to day reality isn't so peachy...the back aches,never being able to wear shorts...

Ahh....it's not all that bad

 

[Cuddles]

In vitro.
If you have cancer and smoke pot, you’re still going to have cancer. It may very well have saved some of us from getting cancer, but we don’t know that and there are no glaring statistics to back up that idea.
Seriously, many in the medical field are out to defeat cancer. I imagine a few of them smoke pot or have smoked pot. If it had value, it would be exploited.

It’s just pot. Folks enjoy it. That should be enough.

I didn´t mean smoking it, I was referring to cannabis oil

 

[buzzmobile]

from a certain perspective everything is small!

Turn the binoculars around.

 

[mexcurandero420]

In vitro.
If you have cancer and smoke pot, you’re still going to have cancer. It may very well have saved some of us from getting cancer, but we don’t know that and there are no glaring statistics to back up that idea.
Seriously, many in the medical field are out to defeat cancer. I imagine a few of them smoke pot or have smoked pot. If it had value, it would be exploited.

It’s just pot. Folks enjoy it. That should be enough.

Depends on what kind of cancer you have.Irvin Rosenfeld is smoking since 1983 10-12 pre-rolled government joints per day to keep his rare bone disease multiple congenital cartilaginous exostoses under control.

 

[h.h.]

Depends on what kind of cancer you have.Irvin Rosenfeld is smoking since 1983 10-12 pre-rolled government joints per day to keep his rare bone disease multiple congenital cartilaginous exostoses under control.

What I found on him reported that he used it for pain, not as a treatment..
I smoke pot when my back hurts. My back still hurts. I just have a better attitude.
He seems to be a bit of an activist. Pushing the medical use. I understand that.
Medical was the beginning of the road to legalization. Even now, recreational gets taxed to death.
It started with glaucoma and epilepsy where it appears to have some qualities. Don’t read too much into it all though. It’s of limited use.
Beyond that, it’s all political. The new snake oil.
Hempvana.
It’s all about the buzz.
Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Cuddles]

Thank you. I was discussing your case/woes with my wife at breakfast this am. The soreness that travels up the nerve I mentioned earlier was more severe/intense with the Pfizer vaccine, which I also stated. A friend of mine in the UK, both he and his wife both had the Pfizer, and she went on without missing a beat, with the exception of the injection site which is normal.

Surprised to hear this actually. I thought that people in the UK all got astra

you know I probably wouldn´t have noticed these little details were it not for my insomnia. A normal person goes to bed and sleeps it off ... but I had nothing else to do really and my brain has been mush for the most part since yesterday evening.
I broke down and did have a beer a short while ago but only because I´ve been so anxious , stressed about things and really on edge lately, as everything has been going wrong. And most of it is down to technical issues of modern technology.
. I managed to solve one big problem this afternoon, only to be taken by surprise by another crappy one which I really must deal with by sunday at the latest. However I reckon I can do it, because I´ve managed to come up with a sort of solution, which I hope will be accepted, sigh..

sorry guys, but it is kinda good to have a little rant and get it all out now and then

 

[Switcher56]

Surprised to hear this actually. I thought that people in the UK all got astra

you know I probably wouldn´t have noticed these little details were it not for my insomnia. A normal person goes to bed and sleeps it off ... but I had nothing else to do really and my brain has been mush for the most part since yesterday evening.
I broke down and did have a beer a short while ago but only because I´ve been so anxious , stressed about things and really on edge lately, as everything has been going wrong. And most of it is down to technical issues of modern technology.
. I managed to solve one big problem this afternoon, only to be taken by surprise by another crappy one which I really must deal with by sunday at the latest. However I reckon I can do it, because I´ve managed to come up with a sort of solution, which I hope will be accepted, sigh..

sorry guys, but it is kinda good to have a little rant and get it all out now and then

I use several strains for sleep these days as well, and normally I can't get more than 6 hrs at a time, probably has more to do with my service career than anything else. The day following the jab, when I said I felt off I slept like a baby that night and cranked 12.5 hrs.

I asked my m8te the same Q and I believe England had both A & P. I don't believe they got the Moderna one though. A lot of countries got the P or ordered the P from early on. The UK was developing the A and, as protocols call for, they didn't place all their eggs in one basket.

I can only state my effects on the 1st jab as the 2nd was M. He got both P jabs and although is wife was pretty much unaffected, he went through the same for his 2nd dose as well. Everyone is different, at least you know what to expect with the 2nd and, IMHO if you have a "choice" get the M.

 

[Cuddles]

I use several strains for sleep these days as well, and normally I can't get more than 6 hrs at a time, probably has more to do with my service career than anything else. The day following the jab, when I said I felt off I slept like a baby that night and cranked 12.5 hrs.

I asked my m8te the same Q and I believe England had both A & P. I don't believe they got the Moderna one though. A lot of countries got the P or ordered the P from early on. The UK was developing the A and, as protocols call for, they didn't place all their eggs in one basket.

I can only state my effects on the 1st jab as the 2nd was M. He got both P jabs and although is wife was pretty much unaffected, he went through the same for his 2nd dose as well. Everyone is different, at least you know what to expect with the 2nd and, IMHO if you have a "choice" get the M.

mine is a prescription med and it works pretty well for me usually but, like I mentioned I didn´t want to use it with the vax... . I´m taking it again tonight though.
We get the moderna and J&J over here but not every place offers it. My GP uses the Pfizer , which is the most common one over here.

 

[Hammerhead]

Cannabis doesn't make me sleepy. It makes me feel more awake more often.

There is no better sleep aid than Benzos. unfortunately there very addictive.

Cannabis is not medicine per say. Possibly glaucoma and epilepsy.
It doesn’t take away pain. It was doesn’t cure anything.

lol, 100% false. Cannabis has been used as a medicine for centuries. There's many that get pain relief using cannabis. Before it was made illegal it was used in many home remedy meds around the world.. IMO cannabis is the best plant to have around for medical uses.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

LsD also works as sleep meds. If you start having trouble sleeping for a few nights. Eat a few hits, stay up and listen to some music. The following night you will sleep like a baby.

 

[BudToaster]

they're coming for your joints STAT!

Fully vaccinated individuals with substance use disorders were more likely to have breakthrough COVID-19 infections than those without such disorders, researchers found.

Adjusted analyses found that breakthrough infections were higher in patients with all types of substance use disorder, except tobacco, and were the highest among cocaine users (HR 2.06, 95% CI 1.30-3.25) and cannabis users (HR 1.92, 95% CI 1.39-2.66), reported Lindsey Wang, PhD, of Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, and colleagues.

lol: except tobacco - must have been funded by the tobacco growers association.

edit: nope, me be wrong again:

This study was supported by the National Institute on Drug Abuse, the National Institute of Aging, and the Clinical and Translational Science Collaborative of Cleveland.

surely the NIDA is fair and impartial.

Study: Drug Use a Factor in COVID Breakthrough Infections | MedPage Today

Pot users almost twice as likely to get reinfected. put down that joint ... for the good of society - it's for the children, fuckers.

gun are in their crosshairs, too, the media is lining up to start dripping out that story.

 

[Hammerhead]

LsD also works as sleep meds. If you start having trouble sleeping for a few nights. Eat a few hits, stay up and listen to some music. The following night you will sleep like a baby.

Not for me.. It's like taking a hallucinogenic with speed. I could also drink 2x more before feeling the effects..

 

[bigtacofarmer]

Not for me.. It's like taking a hallucinogenic with speed. I could also drink 2x more before feeling the effects..

I'll try to find a link to the science. In Rick strassmans book, DMT the spirit molecule. He explains that low doses of LSD (and I believe other tryptamine also) mimick an amphetamine until you get enough in your system to completely fill the receptors.

This also explains people commenting that their acid was speedy. It was more likely just dosed weak.

 

[moose eater]

In vitro.
If you have cancer and smoke pot, you’re still going to have cancer. It may very well have saved some of us from getting cancer, but we don’t know that and there are no glaring statistics to back up that idea.
Seriously, many in the medical field are out to defeat cancer. I imagine a few of them smoke pot or have smoked pot. If it had value, it would be exploited.

It’s just pot. Folks enjoy it. That should be enough.

Anticancer Effect of New Cannabinoids Derived from Tetrahydrocannabinolic Acid on PANC-1 and AsPC-1 Human Pancreas Tumor Cells (nih.gov)

Decades of suppression re. research, primarily by the DEA, via FDA, et al, put the damper on proving anecdotal events to be more than anecdotal...

'Cured', versus 'in remission', are 2 different statements, but there's more evidence beyond the results posted by NIH above.

There's also (legitimate) research effort going on currently re. metastases being prevented by CBD; not any conclusion yet that I'm aware of, and I'm as skeptical as anyone, but the NIH study re. mice, pancreatic cancer tumors being reduced by both size and weight, and the use of THC-A, seems pretty promising to me.

Add to that the forum member here who has had prostate cancer with heightened PSAs for going on 15 years, and, after holding the PSAs down for 13 years+ with THC extract, he has recently began a regimen of THC-A (after the PSAs seemed to be coming up slightly again, and I'd posted the NIH THC-A study elsewhere on the forum) and he is now technically in remission.

In that this is indeed anecdotal, it is not conclusive, but his current status is his current status, to which his Doc reportedly told him, "What ever you're doing, it seems to be working/helping.", or something to that effect.

Sometimes it's not just a matter of wanting to cure something. There are entities that act as gate-keepers re. what can and what can't be tried within the law. And that has had a serious dampening effect on research. Just as one variable.

Note also that in the study above, the THC-A molecule was synthesized, not a natural extract, and there may be questions around that as well. However, the forum member who recently went into remission at age (79?), is definitely using a natural extract, and lower temp extractions.

Does this mean it will work for everyone? Nope.

But there's a thousand medicines that work well for one person, and not for another. If that turns out to be the case with THC-A extracts, it would be far from the first time this occurred with what are now commonly accepted and approved medicines.

Working in mental health, before we found the producers/manufacturers had buried the negative outcomes data re. SSRIs, there was plenty of evidence that for some, SSRIs were the shit. For others, SSRIs contributed to all sorts of horrible outcomes.