H3ad goes Coco

[Tdawg]

Not a prob.

Always a good idea to presoak your coco with some addition of cal-mag. I use canna coco straight out of the bag and i have no problem yet.

 

[J23]

Hi everyone. How big pot would you guys recommend for a one plant 150 HPS SCRoG in coco? I have 28" distance from the bottom shelf to fan-cooled cool tube?
Thnx

 

[skener]

what is wrong with these roses
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[skener]

I'm doing the same formula as proposed by Grate 3fulh3ad (6 and 9). Europe is 1g = 3.78l. 6ml to 3.78litra.FLORA FLORA MICRO HARD and Bloom. I do not know what I did wrong in coconut temp in boxing Sat 21stopin night when the lights burn 18 stopin. Watering by hand. I ask for

 

[libby]

Gutted, this thread deteriated a long time ago, mr head, top man, so happy your a brit. No british flag.

 

[Bobby Stainless]

6/9 under 5200w of mixed spectrum.

5 gal coco, looking for those 8-10 plants!!!!

Can't slack on Veg.

Only thing I do different from H3ad is add a dash of Bloombastic towards the end!

 

[Mountain High]

COCO ROOTS!!!

 

[TRUESCIENCE]

H3ad! your the man, thanks for all your knowledge and sharing!
finally made it thru all 91 pages!!! i feel like ive been on coco forever! haha but rly i
recently switched to coco and h3ads method, things appear to be going great 1 week in...

i have a sort of dilemma, i have to go away for 4 days at week 2 of veg,
i understand the importance of feeding daily but i have no way around this...
so i was thinking i might give a good flush with light nutes maybe half strength, the day i leave... and get back on schedule asap, or would u recommend another route???

i ordered blumats but im concerned i wont have them hooked up in time, just want a back up plan...

thanks again h3ad and everyone....best thread ever...

 

[KosmoKramer]

How often do peeps feed seedlings and young (just rooted) clones? I have some of both in 18-20oz cups and was wondering if they should be fed daily or let to get a bit dry?

New to this coco thingy. But after a little more that 4 days or so my youngins are looking good

 

[puff adder]

Head, I was hoping you can help me.

I've been using your recipe for years now, and doing VERY well. I am in your debt.

I've accepted a job as a Master Cultivator which was offered to me because of samples given over time which were top notch, and impressed some high-ups, so now I'm running a couple big shows.

The water at one new place is 240-260ppm, and I'm wondering what to do here, if anything. My water at my other places is 140-160, and I have a system that kills it consistently, and of course I want to keep things that way.

I research Everything heavily, and I know about GH hard water micro, I'm just wondering if I should do anything about this semi-hard water. I KNOW that I can Kill it with your recipe with 150ppm water, over 11 strains have gone perfectly so far, and I know if I put the water back down to 150 or lower I can simply carry on, but if there's some nute adjustment I can make without having to get an RO system I would choose that probably.

I can mix RO and this 250ppm well water to get back to 140 or so, I know 250 isn't THAT hard, but I was hoping to get your take.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[slowandeasy]

How often do peeps feed seedlings and young (just rooted) clones? I have some of both in 18-20oz cups and was wondering if they should be fed daily or let to get a bit dry?

New to this coco thingy. But after a little more that 4 days or so my youngins are looking good

Depends on how moist your Coco is staying and how well they are rooted. If the roots are not filling the cup, just keep it damp, not soaked. Once the roots explode, the more moist you can keep it. The concept is to fill the cup with roots as fast as possible. The more often they NEED to be watered, the faster they grow. Good luck!!

BTW, with clones and seedlings...I prefer to bottom feed for the first week or so. Promotes root growth downwards. If your Coco is too wet, your roots will not grow as fast. Trust me, I use clear cups with Cover cups...to watch my root system grow. Roots seek water, if the Coco is too moist...they do not have to SEEK

 

[KosmoKramer]

Thanks slow.

Top fed for now. Going to let the cups lighten up a bit before giving them a feeding. Only in 1 colored cup until I find some clear and colored that are the same size so I can put them together.

Hate being "in the dark" and not being able to check root development. Moving from hydro to coco. Thinking I should have made the move sooner already

 

[sm0k4]

How often do peeps feed seedlings and young (just rooted) clones? I have some of both in 18-20oz cups and was wondering if they should be fed daily or let to get a bit dry?

New to this coco thingy. But after a little more that 4 days or so my youngins are looking good

Keep your pH going in always at 5.6-5.8

That should be rule #1. I screwed this up because I didn't buy a meter or pH up/down until I was two weeks in. Stupid on my part, since my coco got to 6.5 and the plants were looking wrinkled on the new growth. I had to run a crapload of pH 5.6 water through my pots until it got down under 6 again. That is a pain.

I just went through seedling stage for the first time in coco. You can't really mess it up, but water when you see the top layer feel dry and the cup/pot is light with no water weight. When I watered, I watered the outer edges until a slight runoff (believed to make the roots spread out toward the water).

You have to give some nutes to the coco every watering. Coco isn't soil and doesn't store the nutrients. For seedlings I was giving mine 400-500ppms fine. Strains may vary.

For the first 1-2 weeks of growth, every two waterings I flushed with 5.8pH water and a very weak (300-400ppm) solution. I run 200% flush, meaning if my pot is 1L, I run 2L through it.

Once they got a couple weeks old, I upped the ppm to 6-700 and just increased if they seemed to be able to handle it. I then don't flush unless my runoff starts going up near 100ppm higher than my feeding solution.

Coco is very forgiving and once the roots take hold after a couple weeks from seed, watering every day don't hurt, but letting them go from watered to damp is best. Some of mine I let go 2 days because they seem to be not drinking as much (maybe my pH issue). Keeping it too wet can cause issues. Just gotta feel it out and get used to measuring water weight by lifting the containers. After a couple weeks of this you will have it down pat.

 

[slowandeasy]

Thanks slow.

Top fed for now. Going to let the cups lighten up a bit before giving them a feeding. Only in 1 colored cup until I find some clear and colored that are the same size so I can put them together.

Hate being "in the dark" and not being able to check root development. Moving from hydro to coco. Thinking I should have made the move sooner already

I did DWC for over a decade, so wanting to see roots on seedlings and clones...is just habit for me. It also helps gauge how moist the whole cup is, not just the top layer. I prefer to use 9oz clear cups cut in half to start seeds, and cut down a tad for clones as well. Extra Coco does nothing but slow root growth down at this stage. If the Coco is too moist, your roots will be thin and sparse. If you keep damp, they are thick, white, and explode much faster! Since I use clear cups, I know this for a FACT. There is no guess work involved.

I use a modified 6/9 recipe and Blumats, but start all of my clones and seedlings in tiny cups. Filling the cup with roots quickly is the key to fast healthy growth. For seedlings I pre charge my Coco with half strength nutes, seedlings get fed full strength nutes within a week. Unrooted clones get half strength nute pre charge in Coco, but bottom feed full strength once they NEED to be watered. I just keep the top damp, so the Coco does not dry out too much...but do not soak your Coco until the roots are nicely developed. Transplanting clones get full strength pre charged Coco and full strength feed. Good luck!!

 

[KosmoKramer]

Hmm 9 oz cups huh? Makes sense. Going today to pick some up, if I can find them.

Another question. When is a good time to drop out the micro for fast strains? I run 2 really fast ones that I chop at 50 & 55 days. Usually cut the micro after week 2 for the 50 day'er, but yields have been light so I'm thinking of at least 3 weeks before cutting it out.

Sound about right? I have to check Rez's thread and see. Pretty sure its stated there somewhere just ahve to find it.

Thanks

 

[slowandeasy]

Your yields are light, because you cut the micro 2 early!! 56 day strain I cut micro at week 4. On a 56 day strain I also hit them up with Kool Bloom on days 14, 28,35 Cut micro on day 28. For a 50 day strain, I would not cut micro until atleast week 3. Week 2 is too early IMO. You will have lower yields, and your plants will yellow faster than normal...Good luck!!

 

[KosmoKramer]

Crazy. Tried 3 different stores and can't find any 9 or 18 oz cups that are the same size in clear and colored. Including Wally World, Dollar whatever and the local supermart.

WTF!!!

So I'm just gonna stick with the dark red 9oz'ers I grabbed and do the dump and check after 10 days or so. Wasted $10 in gas looking for $5 in plastic cups

 

[slowandeasy]

Crazy. Tried 3 different stores and can't find any 9 or 18 oz cups that are the same size in clear and colored. Including Wally World, Dollar whatever and the local supermart.

WTF!!!

So I'm just gonna stick with the dark red 9oz'ers I grabbed and do the dump and check after 10 days or so. Wasted $10 in gas looking for $5 in plastic cups

It cut my 9oz cups down, so you can use another size. I like to start mine in shorter cups, so they fill the cup with roots faster. You will be fine, I just did hydro for so long...I like to see my roots when they first develop. If you can find a similar sized clear cup, just cut it down a tad, you can light proof another clear cup if you like. Clones will root fine even without a cover cup, I just prefer to cover. Good luck.

 

[KosmoKramer]

slowandeasy


It cut my 9oz cups down, so you can use another size. I like to start mine in shorter cups, so they fill the cup with roots faster. You will be fine, I just did hydro for so long...I like to see my roots when they first develop. If you can find a similar sized clear cup, just cut it down a tad, you can light proof another clear cup if you like. Clones will root fine even without a cover cup, I just prefer to cover. Good luck.

Right on. One last question (for now lol). How do you peeps like to store your coco? Thinking of dumping my bag out into a large, lightproof rubbermaid. Then I can just grab what I need and rinse as I go. Does the tub need to have some ventilation (like the bag)? If the coco dries out when stored does it have any detrimental effects?

Took 3 nice big cuts tonite, dipped in Clonex, and went straight into coco. Did the Rez method in perlite way back some with so-so results, but usually using lower branches for my cuts. Instead of nutes to precharge my coco I'm using something called Starter Juice made and sold by the local hydro store. Got some small amounts of nutes (N-P-K ect) plus a little Indole-3-butyric and 1-Naphtha acids.

I'm sure I'll be firing away questions left and right here as I slowly transition to coco. Seems so simple that its making me overthink things!

Thanks all

 

[TRUESCIENCE]

my clear cups are slightly smaller than my blue ones...so some runoff gathers in the blue one and seems the roots love it and drink it up before the next feeding, only problem i see is my roots growng too much thru the bottom of my cups, i imagine this will make for difficult transplant...should i have done something like cut the clear cup or put hydroton in the bottom to prevent this???