H3ad goes Coco

[slowandeasy]

Hey Head,
I was wondering how you feed your Clones? I think you go full strength once they have roots? Rez says half strength til 10 inches, but I think that is too long. I know you like to water often, but what about your clones? About how often do you water once they are rooted decently?

I use Canna Coco, which holds alot of moisture in 9 oz cups and get roots in 6 days. I find saturating too soon slows down root growth by a ton. Until the cups get really well rooted, the Coco does not dry out fast enough to "Need" watering daily. In this case do you like to water daily? So I was just wondering your method? Thanks!!

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Hey Head,
I was wondering how you feed your Clones? I think you go full strength once they have roots? Rez says half strength til 10 inches, but I think that is too long. I know you like to water often, but what about your clones? About how often do you water once they are rooted decently?

I use Canna Coco, which holds alot of moisture in 9 oz cups and get roots in 6 days. I find saturating too soon slows down root growth by a ton. Until the cups get really well rooted, the Coco does not dry out fast enough to "Need" watering daily. In this case do you like to water daily? So I was just wondering your method? Thanks!!

I feed clones full strength from the time they're fully rooted onward.
When I transplant, I transplant into damp coco and skip a couple of days waterings, and then start watering regularly.

I recently had a couple of bad batches of coco and found a new source. Going to GH cocotek now, and it seems nice and fibrous.

 

[slowandeasy]

I feed clones full strength from the time they're fully rooted onward.
When I transplant, I transplant into damp coco and skip a couple of days waterings, and then start watering regularly.

I recently had a couple of bad batches of coco and found a new source. Going to GH cocotek now, and it seems nice and fibrous.

What do you consider fully rooted?The whole cup full or just a nice root system? I know you feed everytime, but are you feeding daily? I skip a couple days between waterings when transplanting also, works well. I was just wondering how often you are watering your clones once rooted. I am using Canna, which holds alot of moisture. I was using GH cocotek Green Bricks, but washing alot of Coco gets old. I do not trust any brand of Coco right out of the bag. Every batch is different!

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

What do you consider fully rooted?The whole cup full or just a nice root system? I know you feed everytime, but are you feeding daily? I skip a couple days between waterings when transplanting also, works well. I was just wondering how often you are watering your clones once rooted. I am using Canna, which holds alot of moisture. I was using GH cocotek Green Bricks, but washing alot of Coco gets old. I do not trust any brand of Coco right out of the bag. Every batch is different!

every day, sometimes more often.

 

[Bonzo]

Awesome thread h3ad, thinkin about coco myself thanks for all the info

peace Bonz

 

[stickey fingers]

THANKS

THANKS

H3ad, thank you from the bottom of my heart ! i love all of youre input, i have had great scuess with youre pertlite tub method and now the coco thread, you rock now if i can only get youre trainwreck i would be in heaven.

SPECIAL THANKS H3ad
RIP DR JAY

 

[Tokesome]

I'm growing in coco and have recently switched from Smartpots to Airpots. Features I like are the easy re-usability and the elevation of the bottom of the pot from the run-off. The only disadvantage is a very slight bit of coco that filters out of the bottom and side holes while watering. However, this only occurs until the roots form a web to hold the coco together. I like them enough to state that I won't be going back to Smartpots.

Do you mind if I ask you what kind of feed regime you use with air-pots, I`m assuming you can flood them more frequently than conventional pots?

I have a sample to try in my next grow, in 5-6 weeks and just trying to glean all the info ai can before deciding how I`m going to tackle it.

Cheers, Toke

 

[BcMedGrower]

Hi H3ad, thx for all the great info,
I recently browsed through your post and after all of it decided to try coco out. After about a week of being in coco from rooted clone, i noticed that the new growth is coming out a little on the light side comppared to the ones i left in promix. I am using the lucas formula on both with your modified 6/9 ratio on the coco and mixed in 30 percent perlite with the coco as well. Strain is kush.

Any advce is much appreciated

 

[geekusa]

Hi H3ad, thx for all the great info,
I recently browsed through your post and after all of it decided to try coco out. After about a week of being in coco from rooted clone, i noticed that the new growth is coming out a little on the light side comppared to the ones i left in promix. I am using the lucas formula on both with your modified 6/9 ratio on the coco and mixed in 30 percent perlite with the coco as well. Strain is kush.

Any advce is much appreciated

Are you under MH / HPS by any chance? If so I've noticed after a transplant into coco or rockwool they tend to get a little yellow the first few days, and generally by the end of the week they are booming.

If your not under those your nitrogen might be a little high.

All the best,

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

pre-charging your coco with nutrient can help minimize the lightening.

 

[BcMedGrower]

Thx for the help,
I did run a 3/4.5 solution through the coco before planting, repeated for a cpl days then up to 6/9, then noticing the yellowing added 3ml calmag while waiting to post here. This morning before your replies, I ran tap water with 3 ml cal mag through at ph 5.7 and 220 ppm, my normal tap is at 7.0 and 90 ppm. I am under 1k mh in 5 inch cups with a 70/30 coco/perlite mixture.
What I have noticed is new growth coming out a little light, some interveinal yellowing(a patchy camoflaging) on a few fan leaves, and also some of the leaves seam a little dark around the edges, i'll see if I can get some good pictures posted for u!
My temps are 75 lights on and around 69 lights out.

 

[BcMedGrower]

Here are some pics i took, thefirst 4 are from a few days ago. the last four are from an hour ago.

 

[BcMedGrower]

cant seem to get my pics up even after i resized them?????

 

[BcMedGrower]

http://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=80749&stc=1&d=1285954995

 

[BcMedGrower]

First 4 from a few days ago, last 4 from yesterday. Any advice??http://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=80761&stc=1&d=1285956654
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[stickey fingers]

THANKS

THANKS

H3ad,
Thanks for all help, youre coco thread is amazeing, its saved my plants lives and gave me a piece of mind. Your'e knowledge is always amazeing as are you !
SPECIAL THANKS, H3ad
RIP DR JAY

 

[verdecielo]

great thread

great thread

amazing info... thanks H3ad
I will soon be trying this up
after reading all and seeing the results no doubt this is the way to go
big props u r the man!!

 

[verdecielo]

first of all thanks H3ad for this great thread
i already started with coco and have 4 1 day old seedlings

i will be doing pure coco with trichoderma, and H3ad's feeding
6ml Micro/9ml Bloom but with the GHE flora which has a little different % of calcium (7%), Potash (5.3%) magnesium (3%), Sulfur (5%)

so after using the cannastats calculator the PPM values are:


N 97
P 60
K 112
Mg 82
S 137
Ca 136

what do you think about the numbers is it too much calcium and sulfur??
or looks ok???
thanks

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

There is a modified ratio for ghe in this thread somewhere.

 

[verdecielo]

There is a modified ratio for ghe in this thread somewhere.

i read all of it and nothing i also use the search and there is mention of GHE having different % but there is not a modified ratio for it

could tell me your thoughts on the numbers above

thanks