Guerilla Underground Thread

[Rodehazrd]

Got my super soil cooking, pots ready, spots surveyed and chosen, planting tools ready, planting strategy laid out, and my seeds just lazing around ready for their bath in a 300mT electromagnetic field. Huh?

Last november I was doing some reading and research on the biology of seed germination when I stumbled on a scientific paper on Seed Dormancy. It was a hard read understanding what it said, but the more I re-read it, the more I understood it. I've been around farming most of my life and had never heard anything about exposing seeds to electromagnetic fields, let alone research on it. Then I found another paper, and another. There's a lot of research on it.

From this paper: (https://www.intechopen.com/books/advances-in-seed-biology/seed-dormancy)


Stunning!
In a nutshell, exposing seeds to a 300mT electromagnetic field for 72 hours increases not only germination, but growth and yield as well.
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So ya, I have my seeds ready to sit between two huge magnets 72 hours before they get popped. lol

Wow
I must read about this I have a lot of rare earth magnets in my shop. I would like to try it on some Bangi Haze and some Mexican Sativas.
I found that the 1" n52 disks used for alarm systems have exactly 3000 gauss or 300 mili Tesla's

 

[beta]

Got my super soil cooking, pots ready, spots surveyed and chosen, planting tools ready, planting strategy laid out, and my seeds just lazing around ready for their bath in a 300mT electromagnetic field. Huh?

Last november I was doing some reading and research on the biology of seed germination when I stumbled on a scientific paper on Seed Dormancy. It was a hard read understanding what it said, but the more I re-read it, the more I understood it. I've been around farming most of my life and had never heard anything about exposing seeds to electromagnetic fields, let alone research on it. Then I found another paper, and another. There's a lot of research on it.

From this paper: (https://www.intechopen.com/books/advances-in-seed-biology/seed-dormancy)


Stunning!
In a nutshell, exposing seeds to a 300mT electromagnetic field for 72 hours increases not only germination, but growth and yield as well.
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So ya, I have my seeds ready to sit between two huge magnets 72 hours before they get popped. lol

FYI, the publisher of this 'research' (IntechOpen) is notorious for pay to play / predatory publishing. They are not peer reviewed, they will publish anything anyone pays them to. They are not a reliable source of scientific information.

If the research is legit, it will be in a legit peer-reviewed journal, not a shady pay to play trying to look like legitimate research.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...g-about-shoddy-science-from-government-expert

 

[TychoMonolyth]

FYI, the publisher of this 'research' (IntechOpen) is notorious for pay to play / predatory publishing. They are not peer reviewed, they will publish anything anyone pays them to. They are not a reliable source of scientific information.

If the research is legit, it will be in a legit peer-reviewed journal, not a shady pay to play trying to look like legitimate research.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...g-about-shoddy-science-from-government-expert

I've seen that and it's absolutely a big issue. But A little searching will show that there have been many papers on it.

I'll do a side by side journal on a couple strains. If it pans out, awesome. If not, no harm done.

 

[MountainBudz]

Good to see you guys are keeping the thread rolling!

I have been extremely busy with my new indoor op and now going into the switch out for my perpetual it is keeping me constantly busy.... However I do have a few trays of seeds already started for the outdoors this year... mother plants too

Just wanted to drop that I will be around soon, once I get done trimming this run and get my co2 burner and mini split installed I will start updating this thread with pics. I am going to try to be as detailed as possible this year and only shooting for trees... Maybe a few late season bumper crop drops as Well, haha I always do those.

I will update soon what I have in mind this year to run and what I have already popped strain wise.

You guys keep that crucial guerilla info feed rolling out... everything has been amazing and in have enjoyed all the posts lately!

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I'm starting to pop my seeds next week and have more than my share of experiments on my plate for this year.

Now if the weather can turn, I'll be happy. We're 12 degrees below normal

 

[Wolfshadoe]

Any of you guys have experience drying outdoors?

I've been thinking that transporting fresh harvest is both a very delicate and risky endeavor. I've done it before with food-grade 5 gallon buckets filled with buds and ice packs, but that seems overly sketchy.

What I'm thinking about doing instead is stringing buds up in the trees to pre-dry for a few days. Then come back and pack them up in either big jars or turkey bags and haul them out in my pack. I figure that's the least sketchy way, and I'll be able to make less tricks with the buds pre-dryed.

It also helps with smell concerns, both in terms of fresh, wet bud and the clothes worn while chopping aren't part of the equation.

What do you guys think?

Maybe this will help if i got the right picture..
Predry hanging in tree's..Do all the work there and put in plastic totes with lids..
Good luck <ws>

 

[Easy7]

We have snow coming. Got super cold in early December, with snow, that's more unusual in recent years. Guessing mothers day planting may not happen. Memorial day is another marker on the calendar. It's good to see the 10 forcast for one of those dates, even though ten days out can change a lot. Just good to see some trending data.

No idea how the fall will be. Family in Oklahoma reported 100 degrees already.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Got my seeds started a week or so ago for outdoors this year.

PioneerValleyGenetics - PHAROAHS KUSH -
(LongValleyRoyalKush x BlackLimeReserve) x AncientOG


PioneerValleyGenetics - SIR-COUGH-A-GAS
DieselFire x AncientOG

Beanz' - HeadBanger x AncientOG

Beanz' - AncientOG x DragonsBlood

ChunkyPigs - Sex Pistol

Clones -
Grizz's - GG#4
HammerheadGenetics - Hammers Kush

 

[TychoMonolyth]

FYI, the publisher of this 'research' (IntechOpen) is notorious for pay to play / predatory publishing. They are not peer reviewed, they will publish anything anyone pays them to. They are not a reliable source of scientific information.

If the research is legit, it will be in a legit peer-reviewed journal, not a shady pay to play trying to look like legitimate research.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...g-about-shoddy-science-from-government-expert

Forgive me for being an optimist. lol

Department of Life Sciences and Systems Biology research
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4154392/
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Exposure of plants to MF intensities higher than the geomagnetic filed
A consistent number of papers described the effect of MF intensities higher than the GMF levels. In general, intensities higher than GMF relate to values higher than 100 μT. As summarized in Table ​
Table1, experimental values can reach very high MF levels, ranging from 500 μT up to 15 T. Most of the attention has been focused on seed germination of important crops like wheat, rice and legumes. However, many other physiological effects on plants of high MF described plant responses in terms of growth, development, photosynthesis, and redox status.
...

Effects on roots and shoots
Increased growth rates have been observed in different species when seeds where treated with increased MF. Treated corn plants grew higher and heavier than control, corresponding with increase of the total fresh weight. The greatest increases were obtained for plants continuously exposed to 125 or 250 mT (Florez et al., 2007).
...

Effects on photosynthesis
Photosynthesis, stomatal conductance and chlorophyll content increased in corn plants exposed to static MFs of 100 and 200 mT, compared to control under irrigated and mild stress condition (Anand et al., 2012).
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--/snip---

 

[MountainBudz]

Got my seeds started a week or so ago for outdoors this year.

PioneerValleyGenetics - PHAROAHS KUSH -
(LongValleyRoyalKush x BlackLimeReserve) x AncientOG


PioneerValleyGenetics - SIR-COUGH-A-GAS
DieselFire x AncientOG

Beanz' - HeadBanger x AncientOG

Beanz' - AncientOG x DragonsBlood

ChunkyPigs - Sex Pistol

Clones -
Grizz's - GG#4
HammerheadGenetics - Hammers Kush

Very nice lineup you got there ODW! You are planting in ground, correct? Not using large containers?

I have been wanting to ask someone how the original true clone only GG#4 does outdoors. I have 3 HUGE glue mommas also 2 Corey's and 2 Headbangers.

I have plants from seed already knee high, keeping them in 3 gallon grow bags currently so they dont outgrow the veg area lol, they are on maybe the 13th node that's gonna go out this year. They will be monsters for sure!

It's getting really hectic for me right now having all of my perpetual indoor plants and seedlings and mommas and clones plus my outdoor starts all in the same veg room. I am moving them a few at a time to the flower room as I take a plant down to trim, I replace it with a couple.

Also, I have great news, something I have been looking forward to for a long time. A buddy over on RIU is sending me 18 Sugar Punch seeds since they are extinct now days. Was and always has been in the top 5 BEST outdoor plants I have ever ran in my life. It's like SSH on steroids and has that grape berry skunk haze scent, rock hard purple hued nugs and as potent as a man can stand... SSH and it's children of variants does excellent outdoors in KY at production and mold resistance. Love SSH crosses.

 

[Wolfshadoe]

Same!!

Same!!

MB

Lol..You sound like me!!

I got a BUNCH of glue crosses also..Will be putting them through the heat/humidity test this year..I got both!!

My first time running gg outside..One thing for sure>>>Cant bunch too many together..That clone [orig GG] has eluded me for 3 yrs now..

Seems most of my stock this year is Haze/GG mix..Popped everything on the last new moon..I do things a lil different here in the swamp...Had I had good MATURE GG clones I would have had a good spring harvest with them this year..

Its a constant shuffle in the Veg/mother room...No room anymore for flower..Here we have to "hit" and get...So many ATV's in the woods now. Catch the wind right and they are "looking" but they DO NOT like to get too far from their atv.

I still love doing it old school>>>Hard work!! In a tent deep in the swamp..I just found my grow logs handwritten from 2000 ish from O.G. days..Crazy reading message {PM}that i was sending out from the swamp>>Now im ranting.Sorry
Peace!! <ws>

 

[marmarb]

Is there a major drawback to using pots outdoors.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Is there a major drawback to using pots outdoors.

- More babysitting.
- They dry out so you have to have a mechanism to water them, or visit often.
- Your plant is constrained to the size of the pot.
- Unless it's not possible, I'd spend the energy on digging a big hole and planting in amended soil.

I think it's crazy to use them unless you're growing on rock. But that's just me.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Very nice lineup you got there ODW! You are planting in ground, correct? Not using large containers?

I have been wanting to ask someone how the original true clone only GG#4 does outdoors.
Also, I have great news, something I have been looking forward to for a long time. A buddy over on RIU is sending me 18 Sugar Punch seeds since they are extinct now days. Was and always has been in the top 5 BEST outdoor plants I have ever ran in my life. It's like SSH on steroids and has that grape berry skunk haze scent, rock hard purple hued nugs and as potent as a man can stand... SSH and it's children of variants does excellent outdoors in KY at production and mold resistance. Love SSH crosses.

These are the GG#4's in 35 gln growbags at harvest last season ~
One of the best outdoor plants Ive ever ran in the Pioneer Valley! It doesnt even need to be topped. Grows into a natural egg shape. I have to grow in containers to restrict the size. If they are seen by the public driving by, the cops can take the plants. So we keep them, 'top of the fence' high, at finish.

Here they are 3 weeks flower ~

I have a few SSH x's Ill be selling at the next GeneTraders show May6th.

SuperSilverSourLemonGlaze = (SLH x GG#4(r)) x SSSDH (THESE ARE REDICULOUS!!!!)

SuperSilverSourDieselGlue = GG#4 x SSSDH

I cant grow these SSH x's Outdoors in Massachusetts. You could KRUSH it with these in your area though!

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Heres the Glue at harvest in 2gln pots in a tiny outdoor end of year S.O.G ~

And heres the Glues in the middle of a BUSY city right in the hood surrounded by buildings, houses, and lots of people.

 

[marmarb]

Got 2+ last yr but alot of room for improvement did 10 gallon holes this year going to try bags thoes 55 gal ones looking good id be happy with 30 of thoes and clearly i have to train them better.

@overgrow what soil mix are you using.

 

[MountainBudz]

Heres the Glue at harvest in 2gln pots in a tiny outdoor end of year S.O.G ~

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And heres the Glues in the middle of a BUSY city right in the hood surrounded by buildings, houses, and lots of people.
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Hell yes man! Those are some mammoths! Makes me happy knowing glue will do so good outdoors. I have only ran her this one time, but I can tell bybthe bud structure that she would be very mold resistant. Same with my Headbanger #5... it would have To do great too.

Now the Corey and Chem (JB), I don't think they will be able to hand the humidity here during the hot humid Ky summers.. Thanks for the info and you got you some NICE plants and strains there ODW...

I am planning a huge breeding project myself, getting everything in line and currently hunting through tons of beans right now looking for my starters and keepers. Definitely searching through the Copper Chem line looking for a couple nice studs to excitement with and also gonna keep a few studs out of the Kentucky Road Kill beans I have going.

Me and the wife have been discussing gene traders, I almost have her convinced in riding with me haha...

 

[MountainBudz]

Is there a major drawback to using pots outdoors.

Take Tych's word for it... Guerilla growing is not fun in containers by any means, UNLESS you are in a situation or location where you can visit everyday and have water very close by. The only containers I run are in certain locations where getting water/food to them is easy. I used to haul gallons and gallons by the hundreds every night and I will not do that anymore...

One thing I love about containers is you can restrict the plants size, to blend into certain locations where you need it to fit to your preferences and needs. Security with containers go both ways... you have to visit pretty much daily to water, especially in flowering when that root zone is 100% full and hungry, however in containers you have the ability to move the plants easily if needed. That's the greatest thing about them in my opinion.

Another plus to containers is when you use smaller pots and have larger plants, they will finish flowering for you a week or so earlier. That can also be used to your advantage if your in an area where you need your plants to finish faster to beat the cold and freezing temps...

I grow monsters in the ground, I never have to water unless I feel like it. Although it does give the plants huge bursts of growth with every watering/feeding in the ground, I like knowing I can go a week or two if needed without having to water.

Key is amending the grow holes correctly.

 

[MountainBudz]

Today was the...

Today was the...

best day of the year for me!

I know you guys keep hearing me go on about Sugar Punch and how I greive on the daily for her existance to fall back into my life after losing my SP cuts... Well thanks to good, legit Friends, they helped make that happen for me!

Received these in the mail today... Time to bring back that ewy gooey grape skunked hazey berry back into my life... my patients have smoked handfuls of strains from me and I never go a day without people asking me "man when are you ever gonna have that Sugar Punch available again?"... she really made a huge impact in everyone's lives that had the opportunity to experience her extreme potency and resin dripping sticky goodness that oozed out the end of every joint you would burn it her... There are 18 fem seeds, original breeder Pack, 2 mad scientist x Jackberry freebies the guy had also revived with his order and I am pretty sure he said the seeds were 3 or 4 years old. Already have them soaking in distilled water... Thank GOD for good people!!!!


A roadkill male would go great with her ...

 

[StinkFart]

hello. Was reading thread about latitude and what that means concerning sunlight time. Didn’t go in how you go about tracking/finding that information for your latitude.