D.D.
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is that bare .. aged copper wire?
I thought that i was the only one who still dries outdoors that way
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Guerilla subforum
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is that bare .. aged copper wire?
I thought that i was the only one who still dries outdoors that way
I VOTE YES! Backyard and indoor growers dont know jack shit about guerilla gardening and lack the skills to bring in a crop. They dont have a single clue as to the relationship between cannabis in the wild and the behavior of their maticulously manicured specimens that stay at arms length.
The guerilla plant MIGHt get attention once every week or 2 and the soil, sun and growing conditions are so very different than controlled growing that the 2 methods have nothing more than plant basics in common.
There isnt a single legal grower anywhere that has the skillls to bring in a crop here in my guerilla enviroment and the knowledge the would bring with them would be useless.
Guerilla Subforum!!!!!!
The guerilla plant MIGHt get attention once every week or 2 and the soil, sun and growing conditions are so very different than controlled growing that the 2 methods have nothing more than plant basics in common.
There isnt a single legal grower anywhere that has the skillls to bring in a crop here in my guerilla enviroment and the knowledge the would bring with them would be useless.
Guerilla Subforum!!!!!!
is that bare .. aged copper wire?
I thought that i was the only one who still dries outdoors that way
It's a copper wire alright. Not bare though. It's fun to dry it like that yes
I'll use some tent next year. I had two showers come down on my harvested crop. Still ... it came out fine.Lets keep it civil please. Every grower deserves respect.
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bajangreen
how much longer till a sub forum for us? There is one for organic hydro. a gorilla sub forum would get more use that this.
Nadicus_Maximus
Member
I grew pure guerrilla this year after my backyard grow got discovered, it was a learning experience...I pulled 6 pounds, the tough way. Definitely a YES vote from me.
The stealth measures needed, and the supreme effort of lugging soil and such does set guerilla growers a breed apart from backyard gardens. I'd even venture to say that guerilla growers may derive perverse pleasure from making a crop grow from seed to harvest in the most inhospitable of locations.
Creating the "land" for my swamp grows required a good deal of narrow creek canoe exploration, and undergrowth hacking with a machette. Then I had to haul in several boat-loads of 2by4 lumber to make a semi-submerged ladder-shaped walkway though fields of floating thicket that formed little islands in the middle of a tropical swamp forest.
On that solid footing I then built swamp planters consisting of plastic dustbins with the bottoms hollowed out, sitting atop stacks of old car tires stuffed with coconut husk to wick up water. Lugging those tires to my five scattered island grow spots was back-breaking labor, despite the convenience of having a canoe to get the material in part way.
When that first crop of Kali Mist and California Orange Bud ripened, I must say all that labor was well worthwhile. All organic growing is all I've ever done, using cow manure, and those buds kicked ass, getting tastier, more fragrant and more potent as they cured over the next few months.
The long-term benefit of all that initial labor is of course that the sturdy construction of my swamp tubes has seen them last 5 years so far, and they only need a little jungle clearing work to be ready for use again. So, coming back to the question of whether a special guerilla sub-forum be set up, I'd enjoy reading one, to compare notes with other outdoor stealth growers who go that extra mile for their annual harvest of nugs.
Creating the "land" for my swamp grows required a good deal of narrow creek canoe exploration, and undergrowth hacking with a machette. Then I had to haul in several boat-loads of 2by4 lumber to make a semi-submerged ladder-shaped walkway though fields of floating thicket that formed little islands in the middle of a tropical swamp forest.
On that solid footing I then built swamp planters consisting of plastic dustbins with the bottoms hollowed out, sitting atop stacks of old car tires stuffed with coconut husk to wick up water. Lugging those tires to my five scattered island grow spots was back-breaking labor, despite the convenience of having a canoe to get the material in part way.
When that first crop of Kali Mist and California Orange Bud ripened, I must say all that labor was well worthwhile. All organic growing is all I've ever done, using cow manure, and those buds kicked ass, getting tastier, more fragrant and more potent as they cured over the next few months.
The long-term benefit of all that initial labor is of course that the sturdy construction of my swamp tubes has seen them last 5 years so far, and they only need a little jungle clearing work to be ready for use again. So, coming back to the question of whether a special guerilla sub-forum be set up, I'd enjoy reading one, to compare notes with other outdoor stealth growers who go that extra mile for their annual harvest of nugs.
very nice post Swamp Thang!
Here's a little something I'm reading about lately. A fellow grower introduced me to it on another forum. It's called hugelkultur and it's about ensuring your plants have constant moisture and access to all the organic food they need. Something for people with no access to swamps. I believe plants on this mounds of wood and soil could be even bigger then in swamp tubes since one can provide more root space and food. http://www.richsoil.com/hugelkultur/
Who's going to build the biggest hugel mound?
Here's a little something I'm reading about lately. A fellow grower introduced me to it on another forum. It's called hugelkultur and it's about ensuring your plants have constant moisture and access to all the organic food they need. Something for people with no access to swamps. I believe plants on this mounds of wood and soil could be even bigger then in swamp tubes since one can provide more root space and food. http://www.richsoil.com/hugelkultur/
Who's going to build the biggest hugel mound?
Takes some preparation and time to get it going. It would be best imo to make it now if you want to have something next year. Also add a lot of nitrogen fertilizer since wood takes a lot of nitrogen from soil when decaying. It all comes into a balance after few years and from than on it's easy... Read about it and if you're going to do it please report back.
The more I read about this mulching methods the more I'm sure I need to go this way. I used to dig huge holes. Even up to a meter deep to create a moisture reservoir in lover part of the hole. I threw in some water crystals and on top of that native soil mixed with amendments and local top soil rich with minerals. Results were great but it also took a lot of work.
I strongly believe that I could accomplish similar or better results with my guerilla patches if I would use a lot of mulch. Ever tried digging into the forest soil? It's easy since the soil isn't compacted. All the life and bacteria in top layers of forest soil contributes to this. I never see trees in forest nitrogen depleted. They have everything they need. I will def. try to copy nature and do more mulching instead of digging from now on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Stout
I strongly believe that I could accomplish similar or better results with my guerilla patches if I would use a lot of mulch. Ever tried digging into the forest soil? It's easy since the soil isn't compacted. All the life and bacteria in top layers of forest soil contributes to this. I never see trees in forest nitrogen depleted. They have everything they need. I will def. try to copy nature and do more mulching instead of digging from now on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Stout
Nunsacred
Active member
I don't see the gain from separating GG from the rest of Outdoor growing.
I understand the difference. I do.
.....and yet I don't care about subforum divisions.
I don't care if someone posts a backyard grow in the same subforum,
even if they call it 'Guerilla'.
It's not as though my knowledge is threatened
by anything anyone else says.
these are some of my Guerilla buds this year near a busy road
Why should it make a difference whether the land is owned by me or not, to whether someone else posts their pics in the same forum?
It's just some twisted sense of owning the subject which causes the reason.
There's no reasonable argument for separating the forum, apart from giving a small group of seemingly unnecessarily angry members an 'excuse' to tell people to 'fuck off to the right forum'.
Ultimately there are much better reasons to tell someone to fuck off.....
....than differences in outdoor growing technique.
Stuff like being abusive or deliberately spreading lies for commercial gain.
I understand the difference. I do.
.....and yet I don't care about subforum divisions.
I don't care if someone posts a backyard grow in the same subforum,
even if they call it 'Guerilla'.
It's not as though my knowledge is threatened
by anything anyone else says.
these are some of my Guerilla buds this year near a busy road
Why should it make a difference whether the land is owned by me or not, to whether someone else posts their pics in the same forum?
It's just some twisted sense of owning the subject which causes the reason.
There's no reasonable argument for separating the forum, apart from giving a small group of seemingly unnecessarily angry members an 'excuse' to tell people to 'fuck off to the right forum'.
Ultimately there are much better reasons to tell someone to fuck off.....
....than differences in outdoor growing technique.
Stuff like being abusive or deliberately spreading lies for commercial gain.
i'll be making kinder garden cage also. last year all my crop was destroyed by rats. not seedlings but 1,5 to 2,5 meter plants. after that I'm gonna cage each plant, up to half a meter and put rat guard on top of cage. other solution is to put tube metal around plants so that rats can't climb on plant. I have some other ideas too. also i'll be using repelants. rats and mice probably too, hate the smell of mint and I think some of commerical spray repelants are based on mint oil. I hope you will share your tactics against wildlife with us.
as for guerilla subforum, I want to able find info as easy as possibile but considering the frqeuancy of posts on Outdoor forum maybe it's not nessesary. good thread, keep it up.
For rats and mice I will also use traps. I don't care anymore. I'm not going to put all that input only to get dead plants in the middle of summer. This is what mice will do to get to moisture inside the plant.
Once you see that you can kiss your plant goodbye. She's gone in a week or so. I lost three huge F13 plants this year because of this. What I learned on another forum...
Put some peanut butter on that tincan and water in bucket up to 1/3 and your good to go. Leave it near patches over winter. Put some antifreeze inside. You can catch a lot of mice this way so they say...
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bajangreen
It's about putting all the good relevant info in one place.
bucket thing looks nice 
defenetly worth trying. I put probably 10kg of posion this spring and all of it was eaten. I don't think I'll be using poison anymore because it sufocates them and they become thirsty. I even found one dead rat lying right beneath my dried plant. rat destroyed my plant because I posioned her.
imo it's not worth killing them. bucket method maybe. wouldn't bother with traps. much better thing imo is to protect plants. I'm thinking about planting vegetables they like which would provide food and water they need. this might easily be the best strategy. I have vineyards in small almost unpopulated island. summers are totally dry there and ganja is basicaly the only food/water resource they have except for grapes. unfortunatly they don't like green grapes. you can't blame them for that though. I'm not sure if less watering would be beneficial, ganja would still be the only green tissue plant there. everything is pine, shrubs and thorn there..
defenetly worth trying. I put probably 10kg of posion this spring and all of it was eaten. I don't think I'll be using poison anymore because it sufocates them and they become thirsty. I even found one dead rat lying right beneath my dried plant. rat destroyed my plant because I posioned her. imo it's not worth killing them. bucket method maybe. wouldn't bother with traps. much better thing imo is to protect plants. I'm thinking about planting vegetables they like which would provide food and water they need. this might easily be the best strategy. I have vineyards in small almost unpopulated island. summers are totally dry there and ganja is basicaly the only food/water resource they have except for grapes. unfortunatly they don't like green grapes. you can't blame them for that though. I'm not sure if less watering would be beneficial, ganja would still be the only green tissue plant there. everything is pine, shrubs and thorn there..
Nunsacred
Active member
Yep, which is what's happening at the moment.
Removing backyard/tended grows would remove relevant info.
Apart from the ignorance of excluding backyard, another reason is that we cant agree on what's true guerrilla.
Would moondawg
1) exclude a GG diary which gets one visit too many for that arbitrary 2-week visit limit of his?
2) exclude a GG diary which turns out to have too much feed added? Or the 'wrong type' of feed?
3) Start imposing time limits on GG visits? Like 'it's not GG if you spend more than 20 mins per plant per visit'?
If you need a personal filter then go ahead and use the forum tools to make it. eg. you could just 'follow' a group of threads.
But nothing will change the fact that other people will disagree about your grow tactics and how you think it should all be done, and nothing will change the fact that GG benefits from backyard seed-runs.
Even indoor growing is relevant sometimes, but clearly, there's so much irrelevance that it's worth separating. The strains are nearly 100% specialised to one or other.
Perhaps when 50% of GG strains are specialised to exclusively GG rather than backyard, it's time to separate the forums.
Every one of my plants suffered this damage last season. I did not notice the damage throughout the season but certainly noticed the lack of growth and nutrient uptake! It was only when I was harvesting that I got a good look at the lower stem on my plants and realized what was happening. Next year I will have to wage war on the rodents!
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bajangreen
How much gorillas use 5gall bukets and how much you pull from them? i pull an 0z
