Growing Weed In Mexico Is No Longer Profitiable

[topheavy420]

Damn reef!

I had heard about this through our mutual friend Mr A(gravity#4) years ago. Very cool to see some pics. I have lost touch with him and haven't seen him online anywhere. I believe he was down there around the same time as you.

 

[Bob Green]

F-n picks holy shit!!!

Jajaja, that is the future of Marry Jane right there. An agricultural crop that will be grown in places like Mexico for big profits. The Southern Mexican outdoor will blow the U.S. outdoor bud straight out the water. Indoor could also be done at such a disgustingly cheaper rate due to low labor costs.

I believe that In time Central and South America will take back their thrones as the top Cannabis growing regions of the world.

Same for Thailand, India, Africa, Sumatra, Hawaii, Jamaica.

If sativas are your flavor having them grown, cured, and packed professionally in the tropics is unbeatable. I would love a bag of HOG grown in Oaxaca, Thai Sticks from Thailand, Punto Rojo straight out of the Colombian highlands, Mango Carrot Zamal grown in Zamal, Malawi Gold, Sumatra Trip... Vietnamese Black, Lambsbread! I can taste it already

Let's just be honest for a minute. If you're only purpose in life was to grow the best outdoor herb on the planet would you really pick places like Humboldt County, or places like Oaxaca?

 

[wegobigupnorth]

F-n picks holy shit!!!

Jajaja, that is the future of Marry Jane right there. An agricultural crop that will be grown in places like Mexico for big profits. The Southern Mexican outdoor will blow the U.S. outdoor bud straight out the water. Indoor could also be done at such a disgustingly cheaper rate due to low labor costs.







Let's just be honest for a minute. If you're only purpose in life was to grow the best outdoor herb on the planet would you really pick places like Humboldt County

Indoor would never be grown on a large scale in Mexico brother. Their electricy is hella Expensive. Cooling the room would be insane too

 

[Bob Green]

Indoor would never be grown on a large scale in Mexico brother. Their electricy is hella Expensive. Cooling the room would be insane too

You could definitely be right about the indoor. Maybe China?

 

[idiit]

Jajaja, that is the future of Marry Jane right there. An agricultural crop that will be grown in places like Mexico for big profits. The Southern Mexican outdoor will blow the U.S. outdoor bud straight out the water. Indoor could also be done at such a disgustingly cheaper rate due to low labor costs.

I believe that In time Central and South America will take back their thrones as the top Cannabis growing regions of the world.

Same for Thailand, India, Africa, Sumatra, Hawaii, Jamaica.

If sativas are your flavor having them grown, cured, and packed professionally in the tropics is unbeatable. I would love a bag of HOG grown in Oaxaca, Thai Sticks from Thailand, Punto Rojo straight out of the Colombian highlands, Mango Carrot Zamal grown in Zamal, Malawi Gold, Sumatra Trip... Vietnamese Black, Lambsbread! I can taste it already

Let's just be honest for a minute. If you're only purpose in life was to grow the best outdoor herb on the planet would you really pick places like Humboldt County, or places like Oaxaca?

^ exactly my thoughts. right now the smugglers decide what they buy and illegally transport. they decide how much they are willing to pay. under the current paradigm cannabis bud product doesn't offer the return on risk that other products offer.

paradigms change. decisions will reflect these changes.

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

You could definitely be right about the indoor. Maybe China?

Given the way that the Chinese play* with material quality and integrity as a national passtime /religion, supplying other products, can you imagine what they would get up to with plants... That you want to smoke?


*fuck with, reduce quality, switch materials, add poisons.

In a globally legal market there will be a massive oversupply of sunny climes to grow quality, cheaply, so once it has all settled down, places like Mexico will need a USP* to differentiate themselves from 101 other tropical climes. This could well be specialising in local Landrace and hybrid Sativas... But they will need to do something or they will be in competition with the Caribbean, Arizona, Africa, India... Etc. Etc.

*USP Unique Selling Point /proposition, that a supplier or brand has to be doing something unique in order to differentiate themselves from the rest of the market.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unique_selling_proposition

 

[Bob Green]

Screw them all brother that's why I just decided to grow my own.

I am not for the corporate takeover but I see it as an unstoppable force. Legalization is coming and they have deep ass pockets.

 

[Bob Green]

Where I am at six plants outdoors would supply me and a few friends and family for the year. A nice big Mullum x Oaxacan, Highland Mex x Blueberry, Harmony F1, Zamaldellica, Mextiza, and a nice Thai or Colombian. Well that would be more than enough to last till next season.

Just six giant plants that's all I am asking for.

Then a indoor winter Kush run and I am set the fuck up and happy.


On a commercial scale I would love a farm down in Oaxaca. The food, surf, and herb... Paradise!

Time will tell.

 

[Charles-scott]

Damn reef!

I had heard about this through our mutual friend Mr A(gravity#4) years ago. Very cool to see some pics. I have lost touch with him and haven't seen him online anywhere. I believe he was down there around the same time as you.

Our Friend and I talk weekly he was at a site with greenhouse production , the breeding area was just myself and 3 Mexican gentleman and a cook .
Our mutual friend and I are planning on working together on another decent project after the fall of this year .
I was always a bit shy to share those pictures but hell that was Feb 5 2005 .
The plants are small for the most part because we had to photo period extend to veg using compact floro and 5 HP generators all of which had to be hauled in on horses .
Here are a couple more pictures of seeded love potion up close the plants grown in that area in those conditions had more resin than anything I have witnessed to date .
C

 

[Golden Tree]

Sounds like the old Wild West...

 

[waveguide]

Given the way that the Chinese play* with material quality and integrity

...how are you sure that what you're witnessing isn't actually the American pastime of lying through the ass about everything, especially the chinese?


i hear they're putting severed puppy heads in the baby food now, omg! it's because they hate our freedom!

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

...how are you sure that what you're witnessing isn't actually the American pastime of lying through the ass about everything, especially the chinese?


i hear they're putting severed puppy heads in the baby food now, omg! it's because they hate our freedom!

Because I am English and a good friend of mine works out of HK as an intermediary between the West and China for manufacturing products, so I get to hear more about the trade there than most.

 

[vapeorbong]

remember back when Mexico was known for their High Grade Marijuana???.....hmm....wait....no, me neither...lol

all i have ever seen form there is commercial outdoor low grade seedy/moldy/bricked bug infested non-sense

but how could they not profit from putting seeds in the dirt that's there...i dont recall high quality anything from mexico..what expenses could they have producing that schwaggyness

 

[Donald Mallard]

Im assuming its a great climate to grow cannabis , but lack of good farming techniques causes the product to be inferior ???
Be funny in the future to see headlines like that but with the names of US states, because i think thats totally possible once cannabis is legal worldwide ,
the places with better climates and cheap labour , ferts etc will reclaim their spots as the largest cannabis producers ..
I know many will laugh because they have never seen decent outdoor herb,
but it exists and it will eventually outdo the indoor for quality and production costs ...

 

[Charles-scott]

Im assuming its a great climate to grow cannabis , but lack of good farming techniques causes the product to be inferior ???
Be funny in the future to see headlines like that but with the names of US states, because i think thats totally possible once cannabis is legal worldwide ,
the places with better climates and cheap labour , ferts etc will reclaim their spots as the largest cannabis producers ..
I know many will laugh because they have never seen decent outdoor herb,
but it exists and it will eventually outdo the indoor for quality and production costs ...

I agree 200% well said , great quality Cannabis comes from under the sun all it takes in the correct Genetics matches to soil conditions and geographic location and we will be amazed at the potential , growing in warehouses and basements under lights is the prohibition model once prohibition ends so will these practices for the most part .
Reef

 

[Donald Mallard]

agreed , they are too expensive , the electric company gets a nice cut , the fert companies with their overpriced products that are aimed at cannabis growers , the pesticide companies ,
etc etc etc ,

im betting more cannabis friendly climates can sell their product for what it takes for their american buddy to produce it ...
so the current model everyone clicks their heels over is unsustainable and will not last, im willing to bet on it ...

 

[sourpuss]

remember back when Mexico was known for their High Grade Marijuana???.....hmm....wait....no, me neither...lol

all i have ever seen form there is commercial outdoor low grade seedy/moldy/bricked bug infested non-sense

but how could they not profit from putting seeds in the dirt that's there...i dont recall high quality anything from mexico..what expenses could they have producing that schwaggyness

High grade no sir... Some of the best effects for sure tho.... Good weed looks nice or it sends u to that special place every time?? Matter of opinion..

 

[Charles-scott]

One of the guys I know in Mexico has been trying to establish a Mexican seed bank there are some really great genetics in Mexico many of the guys are directly hooked up in Cali and have great genetics that they have been working on for years .
The biggest issue they have had is setting up its difficult to ship from Mexico , I am pretty sure they have have a web site that has not gone live .
The Guys in Sinaloa grow some serious Dank I have smoked it and hash made from it .
I am told they have maintained all the genetics from Mid 2000's and done it well .
Another issue they face is the fact the DEA is everywhere in Mexico .
If they these guys can pull this off and figure everything out they might just give all the US Canadian and Euro breeders a run for there $ They have the ability to grow huge numbers.
Charles

 

[idiit]

^ I've been posting on the wholesale price thread that the outdoor south of the border grows as well as other major outdoor and possibly indoor mega grows elsewhere ( I stress the word 'tons' ) globally will have a severe impact in downward price impact. we could easily be back to the $40/lid days again or even much lower for od bud. only now is that fact starting to be realized by the ppl posting on that thread. $40/0z is $640/lb. look at produce/lb. prices for non black market items.

a lot of smokers have never had the opportunity to smoke high grade outdoor grown bud from down south. one of my friends lived on the tex/mex border most of his life and told me the best unpressed intact colas never got shipped up north for commercial customers; they got smoked right down there in the border towns.

seeds could also go dirt cheap especially bulk sales.

now its all about the transport of illegal or probably a better term is "black market" goods. the smugglers decide what gets shipped based on profit/risk alternatives as long as the product is a black market item, cannabis included. at this time they came make more money devoting their efforts to harder, more expensive less bulky drugs like coke, meth, heroin, pills.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Hey idiit,
yea i suspect they would be able to sell the stuff for as much or less than it takes to produce in the US ,
took me a while watching the outdoor vs indoor threads to realize many as you say dont think outdoor could possibly compare to their lovely indoor ,,, but of course those are folks that live in places where the climate isnt quite good enough for quality outdoor product ...

im sure they will be able to grow buds the same as these outdoor in mexico ,
it cost me $100 to produce a plant where i live ,, it can vary from a few oz to a few pounds, i dont think any indoor growers could compete with that ...