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Growing Weed In Mexico Is No Longer Profitiable

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The street lieutenant fidgeting in a Ciudad Juárez pizza parlor deals drugs for Barrio Azteca, a gang that emerged from Texas prisons in the 1980s to control a chunk of illegal shipments from Mexico into the U.S. Southwest. Think No Country for Old Men—secret nighttime drops, murders, and a lucrative sideline in human trafficking and prostitution. Meeting with a reporter while his heavyset boss circles the block, the Juárez dealer is preoccupied with his hottest new product: handcrafted American-made pot.

He marvels at one medical marijuana operation he visited in Arizona. “There are tanks with a system that at a certain hour releases oxygen, water, and light like clockwork,” says the man, who asked that his name not be used for fear of arrest or reprisals from other gang members. Connoisseurs in Juárez are noticing, he says; they’re starting to demand Purple Haze or Kush from American dispensaries. Gang members bring the quality stuff back from the U.S. The prices are higher—about 200 pesos per gram, compared with 50 pesos for his usual product—but then so is the quality. “There’s much more novelty, more variety,” he says.

With marijuana now permitted in some form in 23 U.S. states, the usual flow of pot from south to north has slowed and, to a growing degree, reversed. This was never imagined as a benefit of Nafta. Now, the expanding U.S. pot industry is transforming the drug distribution patterns of the notorious cartels—forcing them to deal more exclusively in heroin, for example—and leading to both cultural and economic change in Mexico’s own consumption of marijuana. Two opportunities may arise: a business boom for legal pot producers in the U.S. and the chance to concentrate the drug war on far more deadly substances.

The effects are being felt in Sinaloa, long the heart of Mexican pot production. Farmers there are ripping out marijuana planted on hillsides. “In our town, it’s dropped because it’s no longer a profitable business,” says Mario Valenzuela, mayor of Badiraguato, the hometown of infamous drug lord Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán, who was arrested in 2014. Over the last two years, participation in a program that subsidizes farmers who plant crops like tomatoes or green beans instead of marijuana has increased 30 percent, Valenzuela says. He attributes the increase to the surge in U.S. production since legalization.

In the past, only a sixth of cannabis consumed in the U.S. was grown within the 50 states; today that’s up to at least one-third, according to the United Nations. Pot from Colorado and California has started to displace the low-grade stuff that’s long flowed in by truck, tunnel, human mule, and boat from Mexico. Marijuana seizures by U.S. Customs and Border Protection at California border crossings totaled 132,075 pounds in fiscal 2014, half of the amount five years earlier.

Read More : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-03/quality-pot-is-changing-the-drug-war
 

aridbud

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Grow it and they (customers world wide) will pay for it, as long as not sprayed w/ paraquat, herbicides. Prices may have decreased, but there are profits galore.

Many (from Mexico) are growing North of the border in forests, land hard to approach by foot.

It's still very much a money making opportunity.
 

m314

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Mexico could become one of the top exporters in a legal market. Quality Mexican sativas grown outdoors and handled well would be popular all around the world where it's legal. I'd buy some here in California. I can't reproduce those kinds of growing conditions with an HSP light in my closet.
 

woolybear

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not sure why OP filed this under 'probably bullshit,' seems reasonable to me.

rich mexicans dont want no schwagg. its 2015 they're poppin' bottles yo
 
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sourpuss

If peeps wanted schwag we would all be growin it here on ic. Makes sense.... although also makes sense that there r other sources of fire grade cannabis.

Hmmm... mexicans focusing on the smack.... hope they dont step on some powerful toes...
 

sprinkl

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They fucked themselves by importing hybrid seeds and growing that instead of their sativa's.
There might be a market for shitty grown and processed equatorial sativa's, but for shitty grown indoor hybrids? Nah...
 

mingmen

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Mexico could become one of the top exporters in a legal market. Quality Mexican sativas grown outdoors and handled well would be popular all around the world where it's legal. I'd buy some here in California. I can't reproduce those kinds of growing conditions with an HSP light in my closet.

never happen. that ship has sailed
 

sprinkl

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The cartels have close ties with the CIA obviously. Pharmaceutical companies own poppy fields in Afghanistan. Drugs money flows to the top of the pyramid like any other money. Any illegal activity, from human traffic to prostitution, theft, fake clothes and medicine, money laundering, wars, drugs, it's not just single criminals in that game wanting to earn a buck, if you don't have someone with power watching your back your career will be short lived. It's all organized and they all report to a higher up. They'll get their tax income either way, whether you're legal or illegal, cooperating or not. Civil forfeiture? If they can't take your freedom they'll still take anything else they can steal...
 

Shcrews

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The CIA, pharmaceutical companies, the brother to the leader of Afghanistan whom dick Cheney appointed......the list goes on.

i dont think any of those folks are in the same business as the mexican mafia, tho they probably help each other out whenever they can

anyway my point was, nobody can keep the cartels from selling heroin or anything else. And since their weed profits are gone they are gearing up production/shipping/sales of meth heroin and coke. The average purity of heroin in the US is at an all-time high right now
 

Weird

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they are dude CIA, Government and big business are all run by many of the same peoples

the war in the middle east was the further corporate and personal financial interests based on opiate and oil production



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

Guatemala

UFCO had a mixed record on promoting the development of the nations in which it operated. In Central America, the Company built extensive railroads and ports and provided employment and transportation. UFCO also created numerous schools for the people who lived and worked on Company land. On the other hand, it allowed vast tracts of land under its ownership to remain uncultivated and, in Guatemala and elsewhere, it discouraged the government from building highways, which would lessen the profitable transportation monopoly of the railroads under its control. UFCO had also destroyed at least one of those railroads upon leaving its area of operation.[13]

In 1954, the democratically elected Guatemalan government of Colonel Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán was toppled by U.S.-backed forces led by Colonel Carlos Castillo Armas[14] who invaded from Honduras. Assigned by the Eisenhower administration, this military opposition was armed, trained and organized by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency[15] (see Operation PBSUCCESS). The directors of United Fruit Company (UFCO) had lobbied to convince the Truman and Eisenhower administrations that Colonel Arbenz intended to align Guatemala with the Soviet Bloc. Besides the disputed issue of Arbenz's allegiance to Communism, UFCO was being threatened by the Arbenz government’s agrarian reform legislation and new Labor Code.[16] UFCO was the largest Guatemalan landowner and employer, and the Arbenz government’s land reform included the expropriation of 40% of UFCO land.[16] U.S. officials had little proof to back their claims of a growing communist threat in Guatemala;[17] however the relationship between the Eisenhower administration and UFCO demonstrated the influence of corporate interest on U.S. foreign policy.[15] United States Secretary of State John Foster Dulles was an avowed opponent of Communism, whose law firm Sullivan and Cromwell had represented United Fruit.[18] His brother Allen Dulles was the director of the CIA, and a board member of United Fruit. United Fruit Company is the only company known to have a CIA cryptonym. The brother of the Assistant Secretary of State for InterAmerican Affairs John Moors Cabot had once been president of United Fruit. Ed Whitman, who was United Fruit’s principal lobbyist, was married to President Eisenhower's personal secretary, Ann C. Whitman.[18] Many individuals who directly influenced U.S. policy towards Guatemala in the 1950s also had direct ties to UFCO.[16] The overthrow of Arbenz, however, failed to benefit the Company. Its stock market value declined along with its profit margin. The Eisenhower administration proceeded with antitrust action against the company, which forced it to divest in 1958. In 1972, the company sold off the last of their Guatemalan holdings after over a decade of decline.

Even as the Arbenz government was being overthrown, in 1954 a general strike against the company organized by workers in Honduras rapidly paralyzed the country and thanks to the United States' concern about the events in Guatemala, was settled more favorably for the workers in order to gain fuller leverage for the Guatemala operation.


Aiding and Abetting a Terrorist Organization
United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia

In March 2007 Chiquita Brands pleaded guilty in a United States Federal court to aiding and abetting a terrorist organization, when it admitted to the payment of more than $1.7 million to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, (AUC) a group that the United States has labeled a terrorist organization since 2001. Under a plea agreement, Chiquita Brands agreed to pay $25 million in restitution and damages to the families of victims of the AUC. The AUC had been paid to protect the company's interest in the region.[25]

This most recent episode in the history of what used to be the United Fruit Company highlights the staying power and influence of large international agricultural monopolies in the governance and politics of a small developing nation. As seen elsewhere in Central and South America, American business interests have swayed enough power to determine the outcome of presidential elections, regional elections, even how the country's laws are enforced and against whom. In this latest federal trial Chiquita Brands admitted to paying AUC operatives to silence union organizers, to intimidate farmers into selling only to Chiquita Brands, and even providing weapons (3,000 AK 47's) to this terrorist organization in order to carry out their objectives. On the plea agreement, Chiquita Brands were allowed to keep secret the names of the U.S Citizens who brokered this agreement with the AUC, by the Colombian Government, in exchange for relief to 390 families.

Despite calls from Colombian authorities and human rights organizations to extradite the U.S Citizens responsible for war crimes and aiding a terrorist organization, the U.S. Department of Justice has refused to grant the request citing 'conflicts of law'. As with other high profile cases involving wrongdoing by American companies abroad, the U.S. State Department and the U.S. Department of Justice are very careful to hand over any American citizen to be tried under another country's legal system, so for the time being Chiquita Brands International avoided a catastrophic scandal, and instead walked away with a humiliating defeat in court and eight of its employees fired.[26]
 

ChaosCatalunya

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The CIA, pharmaceutical companies, the brother to the leader of Afghanistan whom dick Cheney appointed......the list goes on.

It depends on where you are and how many footsoldiers they have to hand.

Karzai's brother probably has little reach outside his protection zones in Afghanistan but you would not be living openly in North or South America if you had passed off the Mexicans.

The CIA and Pharmaceutical companies have less power than people like to make out. In the modern Corporate Capitalist world people change companies often and are not quite so keen to murder people as their opponents try to make out.
 

m314

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Online pharmacies probably took away some of the business from Tijuana drug stores. Why drive to Mexico for your uppers and sedatives when you can have them delivered in the mail.
 
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