Competition GROW CONTEST WINNER: Noreason gardens

[noreason]

CurryLato #4 - 3 months flowering



Still didn't harvested, I will in the next days. As I expected this strain is a long flowering one overall, almost all the 6 phenos shown a tendency to take their time to form good looking flowers. Nothing special to report, I can say I'm not disappointed. The plant has spent the last 25 days far from the lamp with only RO water after a good flushing. It has been also stressed moving her from a room to another. I only saw few nanners last days, nothing unusual.

 

[noreason]

One of the best mom I have in the batch is for sure exodus cheese. It gives me super smelly and tasty buds and genetic seems to be strong and stable. Yield is not impressive but at the same time I can't complain about it.


This clone is almost ready to chop, coco grown, it usually goes for 70/75 days for a full ripening. It has been grow in the hottest period of the year and no fluffy buds, I'm really satisfied of it.

 

[DARKSIDER]

StarDawg Illuminati cut


First time with this plant, started to flush it maybe too early but overall it looks good and despite the little pot (1 liter) it yielded 30 grams. Took around 75 days to finish. Smell is something strange, I can't identify it really good. I like it, it has some aftertaste and a good and smooth aroma. Reminds me of wet wood, some pinene?, fresh aftershave.


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Nice to see this Have 2 in flower myself but not near as far into flower as yours but now i can see it looks good again nice one
noreason your garden looks good.

 

[M-UNG]

I’ve got the same problem with the small “seeds” on the gg4 and other but what I’ve seen is that the plant feeling more heat are the plant with this problem. I’ve got blackdog kush fully seeded and just beside I sativa Dom pheno of raspberry diesel without any seeds!
At the same time I’ve been growing a big gg#4 outdoor just to see if it will show it even under the sun, we will see! I took some cut of the outdoor gg4 to see if there’s any difference.
I also have dinamed in full flower outdoor and are seedless, the indoor one is fully seeded if I can call them “seeds”
When I say seeds I mean just a tiny seed that never grows even after two months!

 

[Canna-lights]

For each plant I take two cuttings. Sometimes one or two dies, so better to have a second one than reveg a mom after flowering.


I cut the leaves just to save some space, trying to avoid touching leaves.



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I now regularly use eazyplugs, they're cheap and easy to use. Cuttings taken from plants grown from seeds start to root after a week usually.



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They go in the clone-box under few watts of led lights


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After the cuttings were safe under the dome, main plants were transplanted in the quick way in a 3 liters pot and moved in the flowering room.



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Two or three months from this moment and I will know if something is worth to be called keeper, always hope to find a real one.



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They look lovely!!!

 

[Dr.NO]

Favorite thread on IC! Good work, truly inspiring.

 

[Busto]

From time to time I come here, spark a joint and watch your latest work.


It's always a great pleasure nore. Tanto di cappello.

 

[noreason]

Lot of time not posting anything...shitty Cvirus confinment...lot of things happen but lamps are always on...work keep going...selection keep going, slow but keep going.


I still have to germinate a pack of Sorbet a l'orange and I will sure do it very soon. Hope to fine some interesting terps.



Not long time ago I harvest few plants in RDWC after years not growing rdwc...always fun to have a look at roots and stem, also to check if something bad has happened. Sometimes stem-rot can occour without showing issue to the upper part of the plant. Rot can't reach the inner part of the stem so it's just a superficial issue, but checking the stem at the end is always a good thing to ensure everything went fine.

 

[noreason]

Thx Paddi!



I would like to share few things about hydro, please feel free to come in and say yours.


I like hydro for many reasons...but not all hydro setup are the same, especially when we talk about efficency.

Efficency for me also include how many fertilizers I must use, how much liters of nut.solution I must handle at time, if there are pumps and how many, if temperature can be an issue and a chiller must be used and so on...I try to take into account many factors and try to do my best without spending too much money for useless things.



After many years growing I found a simple recirculating system is the most effective hydro setup in my case, maybe not the most but at the least it's an effective setup.


I like to use fabric pot, they let evaporate water thus they have a greater heat exchange compared to platic pots. This helps me a lot during hot season where I don't need a chiller and still having decent flowers and healty roots.



Waterings....timing each watering is crucial and I tried different ways, ended with always on. I keep the water pump always on and I'm happy with it. Don't be fooled about water temp, it is important but we also need to understand that water is always a little colder than air, thus having a 24/7 continue watering is meaning you're cooling the root zone.



Dissolved oxygen...it's not bad to add a small water pump and a little stone in the rez. It helps to keep DO levels near to saturation.

Waterfall effect can and should also be used to increase DO and mix the water continuosly.

DO is also direct linked to what and how much the nutritive solution contains. Let say: if conductivity is low, water can keep more oxygen ending with a slighter more oxygeneated solution, only good for roots.



I use let's say 80% RO water and 20% tap. 50liter of nutritive solution for each lamp.
I don't make nutritive solution changes during the cycle anymore. Sometimes I throw away a little of the old solution and add fresh water, noghing else. I only use A+B fertilizers, no need to add acids due to RO water. 1 or 2 times I add a pinch of mineral magic and that's all.

Overall EC level always stay around 0,8 mS/cm, just in the most requesting phase it can be around 1. I don't see deficiencies, I don't see less yielding, so I just guess it's ok for me and I don't see the need to go over these value.


Bacterias...I don't use to add any bacteria but they sure are inside the solution...would you not be happy being a bacteria in a hydro system? I found that once the system is stabilized, once the nitrogen cycle is started and stabilized, plants have beneficial effects from it. Making changes, using chlorine or other oxydant or disinfectant agents it's not needed at all.



Next are few pics at harvest of a simple recirc. setup. Pots are 11liters big but they can carry few liters more. Root mat was impressive for its hardness and thickness, not common for me. I think the strain used (Spumoni) is pretty vigorous and made a nice mat.

 

[noreason]

Most of the times I use 4 plants on a tray for each lamp. Quick math: 50liters of clay pebbles, 50 liter rez. capacity (real).


In the past I used 7 liters fabric pots and also plastic pots. Both works but at the end I prefer slightly more bigger pots because it's easier for the plant to achive a bigger size as the hormones are ''feeling'' there is more space compared to a 7 liters.

No need to worry about root rot, it can't happen with pump always on and a nicely oxigenated nutritive solution...just avoid to let the water flow touch the stem.

 

[noreason]

WeddingTriangle is a good plant, has a nice smoke...surely not the best but overall it's a a nice keeper.
This one was grown in coco, flushed and only RO water for a long time. Bag appeal could have been better but I'm lazy sometimes, especially at trimming


Original cross is Wed.Cake x TriangleKush bx3 by seed Junky...I just sprouted few seeds and kept this pheno. Something between kush and sweet, bit of lavender/sandalwood maybe. Terps are ok but no so strong as others. It has a 3x stretch, not many branches but they tend to stretch a lot. Easy to bend/crop and whatever. Good thing it does not produce many and many budsites, so cleaning from popcorns is awesome.

Leaf/calix ratio is good, not the best but it's easy and fast to trim. Resin is thick and oily, not so sticky.

 

[noreason]

This one is a PelmoDawg and I always forget what cross is exactly! Well...the name should says it all.



I only kept one pheno, the #1 as at the end it's nothing very special but it's a good and stable clone. Nice bag appeal, nice resin, fast flowering (approx. 50-60days) not so low yielding but the most important thing for me is aroma and it's not so strong, however is a pleasant smoke. His smell is very nice a mix of kush,earthy,iron oxide and a hint of citrus, when smoked most of the terps are gone after few hits.



In the pics is pheno #3 (coco grown) and they all look very similar, also because it's a F1 offspring.

 

[noreason]

Little chapter about springtails aka collembola. I want to write about it so it could be useful to someone in the same situation I was in the past, where I didn't even know what a springtail was.



They're very very common on this planet, maybe the most numerous animal family on the Earth. They're very tiny, you can see them if you look closer and notice them bumbing.



They eat basically everything depending on wich of the thousands (yes thousands) species is considered.



Coming to the growing point...searching online you'll find collembola are beneficial for the environments and indeed they are. Nonetheless I found one specie that actively eat roots of living plants. No doubts. I spent maybe a year observing them and plants.
If they usually eat degrading organic matter, in a ''mineral'' environment they can eat small terminal roots, the most tiny.

Plant will not die but stunts, not giving out all of its potential. Yellowing like a N def. is possible depending on the plant growth stage.

They eat their own corpses and really like moist environment. I get them from a contaminated worm cast, my fault. They can affect hydro setup, not only coco and soil.



I found many studies on collembola population in soil and so on...but not in terms of pests but as beneficials insects.

However this little image can be interesting:

Going over...I found many of the most used pesticides sold by growshops and easily found in the growing world are not effective. The most effective I found is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorpyrifos
being an inhibitor of the acetylcholinesterase enzyme I guess other active ingredients working on the same way can also be effective.



I don't have right now exact dosage I used, I sure remeber they are affected also at very very low dosage but being chlorpyfyros a shitty thing, I never used on flowerin plants, not even in veggie plants which later were moved in flower room. This kind of shitty pesticeide is only good for use on moms. I would not use use it on something to smoke later.

If someone need to know dosage I used ask me PM.



Green vibez

 

[nickman]

Another great read noreason...!!!...

Nice report on the different genetics too...!!!...

That wedding Triangle looks promising...!!!...

 

[Ghoul]

Whenever i see an update on this thread, i make a fat one and enjoy the read. Always nice photos and interesting reflexions.

Can't help you with hydro things, just wondering if have you seen other beneficies on a continue watering versus alternate cycle, besides cooling the roots zone (healthier plants, major vigor, increase in yield)?

 

[dimodz]

nice update and show my dude

 

[noreason]

Another great read noreason...!!!...

Nice report on the different genetics too...!!!...

That wedding Triangle looks promising...!!!...

Whenever i see an update on this thread, i make a fat one and enjoy the read. Always nice photos and interesting reflexions.

Can't help you with hydro things, just wondering if have you seen other beneficies on a continue watering versus alternate cycle, besides cooling the roots zone (healthier plants, major vigor, increase in yield)?

nice update and show my dude

Thx brothers


@Ghoul: at the end of the day I would say there are not many differences if everything else is ok, pot size, water, temp etc..


Little difference is the root mat on the tray. Roots like continued watering, they can go on the tray and expand where they want. When they create a real mat, water flow is slowed and the tray become a sort of ''lake''. Indeed it's very similar to how a lake works.

At thant point it would be awesome to switch timing to create an E&F instead of a NFT on the tray, this will increase oxygen uptake avoiding poor oxygenated areas.



Never tried it, I just switch off the pump for a couple of hours per day to let that root-mat breath, take a good dose of air and then back to work with continuos watering.



Root mat is not so developed with 15/15 waterings, but overall I can't see real difference in yield or vigour.

 

[noreason]

SecretCookies x KushMints#11...I kept one pheno beacuse of its bag appeal mainly. Yes...so much resin sure carry some aroma with it and it does indeed has some dank tones, little musky, wet soil...sticky as glue. Overall aroma is not the why I kept this pheno.

I must admit this is one of the most beautiful flower shape I grown in all my life, and SeedJunky seems to work with fire stuff.


Grown it in coco and hydro...hydro looks even better than coco, has a superior bag appeal.
However it's not easy to grow...luckily enough this pheno seems to be stable under the intersex trait. I see few male sacks at internodes sometimes, but overall it's a weak trait, flowers are seedless.

Flower can take more than 3 months for a full ripe in hot environment. During winter or cold season generally it takes 75 days for a full ripe. Very cold weather 70 days and it's ready. Basically flowering is affected by temp. more than other plants I have.

Next pics are from winter...and the black is the proof. In hot environment it maybe can carry some purple, black is during the cold season.

It's clear flowers grow like little single stones, classic shape of those ''new lines'' which will naver make a big cola like old school strains. To me it's not bad at all...giant cola are no so funny as a noob would think.

Yield is not the best but I can't colpian at all. Clearly depending on flowering total days it can varies but it's on the average. Not the best not the worst.

 

[Crowmax]

Always AAA+ quality buds from your garden noreason!

And damn thats some crazy root growth at your older 1447 post

 

[noreason]

Crowmax thank you dude and thank to all of you for rep+


Cold winter...you know cannabis plants don't like too much minimum peaks of approx. 9ºC

They will produce less and in a shorther period of time. however resin and terps are just great.



Little coco mixed plants..small buds due to wintertime and no heating in this room.

Sometimes when a strain is really strong...it doesn't give a fuck about cold. The tallest ones are WeddingCake x TriangleKush, strong plant indeed. I will probably use the male to make few seeds.

Wintertime for moms...they just love it. More humid, 200W fluo light (20/4 cycles) no stretching. Just some pruning sometimes.

6 clones on the left went in the rdwc system, other 4 in the recirculating system.

Once ready to trim...SecretCookies x KushMint aka SecretMint...wintertime, fast flowering, not a big yield due to cold.