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[moose/MI]

I have my first pistil.
Surprisingly it's not my GMGrape but on my severely stressed and restricted Mountain Gold females that were not selected for a seed reproduction.

Way over my allotment, I tried giving them away but nobody really knows what I'm doing. So I kept them in case something opened up.

Yesterday I started cutting them up for clone practice. Even though I don't have any plans for them. Maybe something will turn up
On another note these same stressed MG plants have some aphids.

7 varieties and these are the only plants with aphids including other MG plants that were treated better.
So again, I'm putting it down to stress. Maybe affecting the brix?

Neat thing is I found a few green lacewing eggs on my Green Mountain Grape that doesn't have any aphids on it.
Maybe that's a good sign for my outdoor garden here at 42°N

 

[vermontman]

She grew to 5 foot 5 inches and stopped growing up and just started bushing out big time. I dont think I've grown such a bushy plant ever.

Hello @outsidegrower!
Kudos to so for such a great grow thus far. And yes please keep us posted!

 

[vermontman]

I have my first pistil.
Surprisingly it's not my GMGrape but on my severely stressed and restricted Mountain Gold females that were not selected for a seed reproduction.

Way over my allotment, I tried giving them away but nobody really knows what I'm doing. So I kept them in case something opened up.

Yesterday I started cutting them up for clone practice. Even though I don't have any plans for them. Maybe something will turn up
On another note these same stressed MG plants have some aphids.

7 varieties and these are the only plants with aphids including other MG plants that were treated better.
So again, I'm putting it down to stress. Maybe affecting the brix?

Neat thing is I found a few green lacewing eggs on my Green Mountain Grape that doesn't have any aphids on it.
Maybe that's a good sign for my outdoor garden here at 42°N

Hi @moose/MI!
It is pretty cool how keeping plants under potted will spur early flower, and also love seeing the Lacewing egg.
Thank you for sharing!

 

[moose/MI]

Hi @moose/MI!
It is pretty cool how keeping plants under potted will spur early flower, and also love seeing the Lacewing egg.
Thank you for sharing!

Along those lines I have a question.

First, I had previously mis identified this as a GMG top that I cloned.
But after failing to show any purple I dug around and found the crumpled painters tape label and seen that it was in fact a labeling error.
It's the top of my Green MG that I'm doing the seed repro with. Not a GMG.

Now that's established. Here's this dandy MG clone in a 7 gallon on my porch.

If I've been paying attention and have this correct.
Leave it in this 7 gal until it's done stretching then up-pot it? Is that the advice?
Or is that only an inside trick and I should up-pot it now?

 

[vermontman]

Along those lines I have a question.

First, I had previously mis identified this as a GMG top that I cloned.
But after failing to show any purple I dug around and found the crumpled painters tape label and seen that it was in fact a labeling error.
It's the top of my Green MG that I'm doing the seed repro with. Not a GMG.

Now that's established. Here's this dandy MG clone in a 7 gallon on my porch.

If I've been paying attention and have this correct.
Leave it in this 7 gal until it's done stretching then up-pot it? Is that the advice?
Or is that only an inside trick and I should up-pot it now?

Hey bud!
Great question! Keeping plants tightly potted is a terrific tool.
for keeping plants more manageable, as is slightly under watering. And up potting is another amazing tool. If plants are in the 3rd to 4fth week of flowering usually the stretch has stopped, and if kept slightly under potted not to crazy tall but showing slight signs of stress being to root bound. At this point up potting with good organic potting mix gives the plants another surge of vigor to flower out even more massive buds! True for indoor and outdoor culture.

 

[ilovegrowing]

Here another gmg f2, she is smelling super kushy. Reminds me a bit of bubba hash (bubba kush x hashplant). Gassy, earthy..

She started quite slow for a gmg an didnt have much stretch but is now going faster with bud development.

 

[vermontman]

Here another gmg f2, she is smelling super kushy. Reminds me a bit of bubba hash (bubba kush x hashplant). Gassy, earthy..

She started quite slow for a gmg an didnt have much stretch but is now going faster with bud development.

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Hi @ilovegrowing!
Very interesting how you get throw back genes that can come in successive generation, it will very interesting to see if the grape or berry notes come in later. Please let us know and thank you for posting! As I had said earlier in this thread my brother is on f5 of Green Mountain Grape and he says it's been grape all the way.

 

[ilovegrowing]

Hi @ilovegrowing!
Very interesting how you get throw back genes that can come in successive generation, it will very interesting to see if the grape or berry notes come in later. Please let us know and thank you for posting! As I had said earlier in this thread my brother is on f5 of Green Mountain Grape and he says it's been grape all the way.

I smelled her again after i posted this, and i thought, oww there is a sweet grape berry note coming haha

 

[vermontman]

I smelled her again after i posted this, and i thought, oww there is a sweet grape berry note coming haha

AWESOME!
It's really important to me.
I love to see my lines breed true.
Thank you for posting!

 

[ilovegrowing]

Gmg f2 purple in natural light, you see better what i mean with silver now

This is gmg f2 kushytype in full structure

Early budshot

Next is gmg f2 „lanky type“ about 10-14 days 11/13, i have put her in soil quite small out of a 7cm pot to a 10 liter pot,
big stretch on her.

I am very curios about her, i had a green f2 which i sadly lost by mislabeling, she had a big stretch too, good yield, very up positve, good aroma of berry/grape spice was fast and very vigorous. I was sad that i lost her.
Lets see what we will find.
All i can observe now is big stretch and purple on the lower stems and petioles. Maybe a purple leaning plant. Dont know if the green one i lost had purple on the stems.
I think not, but could be wrong.

Gmg f2 lanky and kushy next to each other.

We are in the f2 line, so any recombination of genes can happen, or...? did i get this part of plant/breeding right? notice one pot is a bit smaller than the other

Its so much fun to discover genetics
It always excites me, mostly in good and sometimes in bad ways. Haha
Cheers! *liftmycupoftea

 

[ilovegrowing]

And this is (panama x bangi haze) x gmg f1 green male

In the last time i ve found some nanners on many plants. Also slightly on the mom of this cross.

My environment was off in many parameters in the last period of time/cycle (too hot soil with not the best ph, too hot on the tops, thrips, slightly malfunctioning timer of infrared light supplement and light leeks) but is on the way if getting better.

I was looking for failures today and found some little light leeks and disconnected the light supplement for once. Ph is also in the right spot now, new soil, and the lamp is more up.

I really want to learn and i think i am progressing, but i have to say, i think its quite easy to make a mistake if you dont know what leads to what. learning by doing hehe

Of this cross i sowed 5 seeds, i had one lanky male, this incredible vigorous lemon smelling bush, one unknown and two plants who first showed female pistils and then later switched to male flowers, never had that before.
At both plants you could see male and female preflowers flowers at the same time but on a different branch. I ve read something about it but im not sure if this normal and can happen, or if it were true hermaphrodites. I discarded them anyways.

And with just 5 seeds it could have been bad luck in the seeds i picked or in the gene lottery and i dont have the right parents. But i doesnt look so good for the cross or what do you think?

We will see how she develops, if i would have found her on the pic in just 1 seed i would be amazed

 

[vermontman]

Gmg f2 purple in natural light, you see better what i mean with silver now
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This is gmg f2 kushytype in full structure
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Early budshot
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Next is gmg f2 „lanky type“ about 10-14 days 11/13, i have put her in soil quite small out of a 7cm pot to a 10 liter pot,
big stretch on her.

I am very curios about her, i had a green f2 which i sadly lost by mislabeling, she had a big stretch too, good yield, very up positve, good aroma of berry/grape spice was fast and very vigorous. I was sad that i lost her.
Lets see what we will find.
All i can observe now is big stretch and purple on the lower stems and petioles. Maybe a purple leaning plant. Dont know if the green one i lost had purple on the stems.
I think not, but could be wrong.
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Gmg f2 lanky and kushy next to each other.

We are in the f2 line, so any recombination of genes can happen, or...? did i get this part of plant/breeding right? notice one pot is a bit smaller than the other
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Its so much fun to discover genetics
It always excites me, mostly in good and sometimes in bad ways. Haha
Cheers! *liftmycupoftea

Back in the day! We had a saying when someone broke out buds that we hoped looked nearly that nice.
SPARK EM UP!!! Do people still say that?
Awesome update!
Thank you!

 

[moose/MI]

I'm almost done with my Mountain Gold pollen collection/preservation.

I made up this mini dryer from a take out container and some dessicant beads.
Then into a jar of rice that I baked to prep it and into the freezer.

 

[vermontman]

I'm almost done with my Mountain Gold pollen collection/preservation.

I made up this mini dryer from a take out container and some dessicant beads.
Then into a jar of rice that I baked to prep it and into the freezer.

Hello @moose/MI!
Great job on pollen collection and professional storage technique!
I spent a good part of today doing some more collection of FEM pollen myself, currently drying second batch, so on the same page.
CHEERS!

 

[vermontman]

Oaxacan Gold
New 1979 line looking pretty promising for early preflower.

 

[vermontman]

Transgender Plants
For Feminized seed run, Going great but tweezering fingers are jetting stiff! HaHa
Zacatecas Tribute, Oxacan Gold and Mountain Gold.
Happy gardening all!

 

[dilettante]

Purple Satellite f1, f2, Shogun x Purple Satellite, Bangi Congo/Panama x Purple Satellite.

 

[Hasch]

Bangi Congo/Panama x Purple Satellite.

Woho, what an enticing cross!


Have you grown this out before?

 

[dilettante]

Woho, what an enticing cross!


Have you grown this out before?

Nope. I just made them last year. I have 9 plants going. Looks like 3 males and 6 females. 1 purple stemmed and also same habitus as the Purple Satellite. The other 8 are green and more beefy like the mother. Two plants stand out on the early stem rub. One lemony and the PS pheno is flowery/cherry. I have high hopes for the cross. I've been handing out seeds to everybody around, so hopefully will get some feedback from someone.

 

[vermontman]

Nope. I just made them last year. I have 9 plants going. Looks like 3 males and 6 females. 1 purple stemmed and also same habitus as the Purple Satellite. The other 8 are green and more beefy like the mother. Two plants stand out on the early stem rub. One lemony and the PS pheno is flowery/cherry. I have high hopes for the cross. I've been handing out seeds to everybody around, so hopefully will get some feedback from someone.

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Hello @dilettante!
Great to see crosses with my genetics.
Hoping you a fruitful early harvest!