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Greedy Phony MJ growers/entrepeneurs
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You realize that you're the guy in this thread who has delusions of being "in the medical field" and claims that you purposefully cause pain to your pretend patients with large gauge needles when they're not nice to you, right? You're the only embarrassment here that I can see.
in case you delete it....
DAT said:
If anything you're a phlebotomist with a community college degree and delusions of grandeur. Please stop compulsively lying on the internet and get some help dude.
Former Guest
Active member
that large gauge needle is a standard size for taking blood draws. all the female blood techs say that men are such sissies when it comes to taking blood. no blood tech uses the pediatric needles to draw blood from a grown adult unless they can't get it from the arm and so they break out the pedi needles to take it out of your hand which hurts worse. I should know and I would rather have the bigger needle to take blood from my arm than from my hand any day of they week. furthermore, I have yet to meet a blood tech that wanted to inflict pain on their patients as all of them feel bad about causing pain that I've met but most of them have joked about the needles and people acting like a bunch of sissies. its blood tech humor.
Kendo The Green
Member
just because you're being more vocal about it by posting your point about legal commercial grows over and over again despite the thread talking about medical commercial growers ethics does not mean that you've "won" this thread like you're acting. many people reading this have sent me messages of support as most people don't want to voice their opinions on here. DATs gotten some messages of support as well. we have both made many new friendships because of this thread as like minded people are attracted to each other.
@DAT this thread was awesome! it shouldn't be deleted. don't look it as them being what they are. this ruffled feathers, this made people think! don't let these big bossy assholes get you down! the good people are quieter, watchful, and many more than you think! plus, why would it bother you if kendo and resin don't like you?
we've even tried to explain to you the difference between ego and confidence which went right over your head and now you're just:
despite this thread being viewed as a gripe thread which in all honesty, someone who's being taken advantage of should have all rights to voice their frustration and try to address the situation to make their world a better place. then all of you try to beat her down!? shame on you! if you think your such the big winner, then why are you trying to rub it in her face? be the bigger boy if that's what you think you are.
@Mikell thanks for posting the thread with the list of the most influential business people in canna history. it points out public sector business organizations, activists, and people that have spoken out against popular opinion in favor of medical and legalization are the entire reason that we are even smoking more publicly than before! if it wasn't for these little people who have gotten angry and frustrated and were passionate about cannabis have literally paved the way for future business endeavors. I also appreciate that they knew to separate the public and private business arenas because they work differently and each one succeeds in a different goal.
and for the final last fucking time: I don't give a rat's ass about you making money off of business men who are in it for profits in the legal arenas. that is what private business does. people either are misers with their money in that area or they give graciously and are looked on in favor like Bill Gates who give back. public business is not working for free unless you want to volunteer. everyone gets a good wage that is fair and your success is measured on how well you can help others, make money go farther by budgeting, and if you have a successful grant writer to find you the free money from foundations who ironically are entirely funded most times by wealthy families in the private sector.
if you want to be the rich asshole who fights for his rights to not give back to the community and only take, then go for it. I wanted this thread to inspire people to give to others less fortunate. thought it would go along with the holiday spirit of Thanksgiving....weird.
Lets take a look at this rebuttal.
You cry the victim but in reality the opposite is true. I have posted here in good faith and with common courtesy. You have countered by purposely misquoting, misinterpreting, and generally rewriting my posts to create subterfuge. You have called me names, called my character into question, made up false baseless accusations in regards to a person you do not know from ADAM. Hardly the victim.
Kendo The Green
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You know, most people understand that if people don't like you maybe you are the problem. You have been a name calling, judgmental, rude, insulting, and condescending member the short amount of time you've been here. If people don't see things from your narrow, idealistic, point of view they are the asshole and you go on some tangent.
ICMAG not enforcing tou? You do realize that the tou's here are enforced pretty heavy handed right? As a matter of fact, icmag has a rep for overly enforcing tou's.
Not everyone is going to agree with you. Not everyone is going go agree with your ideas, Not everyone is going to offer advice when they read your threads and see that it doesn't matter what they have to offer to you. Let one of us say something that sets you off that day and damned if we aren't the problem with marijuana in the world today.
You say--
"a few people help who know what they're saying, some people help because they want to be helpful and sometimes they're right, but mostly it's full of egos who make fun of people, don't help out, and basically run off every new person by making this place unfriendly and so no newbs can learn."
You are the one with the ego problem. You come here with a post like the one above and with a broad generalization take a shit on the site.
If a newb can't learn here it's the newbs fault. Most make it and are very glad they did open their account. You on the other hand have found a complaint behind every pot here. Maybe another site more in tune with you point of view would be beneficial to you?
You say-
"I thought that if I pointed out that the unfriendly nature of the forums is something that icmag should deal with"
This is a friendly site. Always has been. As with every site there are bumps in the road along the way. If it's unfriendly, once again it's you that are the problem. You haven't exactly been an ambassador of that friendly vibe you keep talking about. But I know you won't understand that.
Back to the sidelines/peanut gallery for this guy.
icmag has a rep for overly enforcing tou's
Yuuuup.
Interesting. I was surprised there was no interest there. Many "greedy, phoney non-smokers" and bandwagoneers made the cut. I can't stand Emery or his fanboy club, but I was surprised Jodi did not make the cut. Obama topped the list for some reason, likely similar logic behind the sham Nobel Peace prize he was awarded.
icmag has a rep for overly enforcing tou's
Yuuuup.
Interesting. I was surprised there was no interest there. Many "greedy, phoney non-smokers" and bandwagoneers made the cut. I can't stand Emery or his fanboy club, but I was surprised Jodi did not make the cut. Obama topped the list for some reason, likely similar logic behind the sham Nobel Peace prize he was awarded.
nine miles of rough road...
still gets you there.
still gets you there.
Its bad. Shitty growers with bad attitudes thinking the game owes them something. Washington State is crawling with these dirty creatures. Ruining branding, the best cuts grown by armatures is still b grade at best, usually garbage.
I believe a change to be coming were the collective or private grower will be more important than the cut name. It seems the only way to separate quality. In all other situations I believe we should band together, however in this situation its a must to separate ones self from the group.
We only donate our best for compensation. Anything that doesn't make the cut (bag appeal) is made into RSO or HAO given to patients fighting for their life.
Ive always felt like if I do right by this amazing plant she does right by me. She owes me nothing. All we do is for her and right by her and expect nothing in return. My life in turn is better than I could recently imagine. I do feel bad though that to continue forward we need to lock the bus door. If somebody is doing right, the plant will bring us together.
Peace, pot and karma. 1.
I believe a change to be coming were the collective or private grower will be more important than the cut name. It seems the only way to separate quality. In all other situations I believe we should band together, however in this situation its a must to separate ones self from the group.
We only donate our best for compensation. Anything that doesn't make the cut (bag appeal) is made into RSO or HAO given to patients fighting for their life.
Ive always felt like if I do right by this amazing plant she does right by me. She owes me nothing. All we do is for her and right by her and expect nothing in return. My life in turn is better than I could recently imagine. I do feel bad though that to continue forward we need to lock the bus door. If somebody is doing right, the plant will bring us together.
Peace, pot and karma. 1.
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Red Berry
good.
I hate needles ,break out the big one and you got a problem.....my hatred of needles prob has kept me alive...lots of dead friends back in the pure china white days...me I am still smoking da weed...its me them phlebotomists are talking bout lol....
Relax DAT, you're looking at it from the perspective of just small growers growing for themselves and Kendo isn't really marketing himself for that although I bet he wouldn't turn a small grower away. I just watched a now show being produced by MSNBC called Pot Barons of Colorado and these are the kind of people he's after. Very large scale investors hoping to compete with Mega Corporations when the pot prohibition eventually ends nationwide. These people got millions they are throwing around and setting up warehouse sized grows. To them $100 per hour is cheap and judging by the size of their buds I saw in the show they could use some help.
MelloYello
Active member
I think you're taking a bit too much for granted in saying this. After reading what you've said I'd agree that you are not phony but I'm still unsure about the greedy part. I think the $100 per hour part doesn't seem too greedy now that you've expanded on what the $100 per hour covers but it's what it doesn't cover that still has the jury on greed out in my mind. You mentioned that you have connections where you can get better prices for equipment presumably for the volume of business you drive that way. Having worked in the wholesale/ retail business for IT I have a fair understanding of how that ends up playing out. So it seems a bit greedy to me when you say you can provide your customers with equipment at a better price then what they would get on their own, but only if they pay you an additional fee beyond your $100 per hour.
I think you might be reading too much into that needle comment. Did you note the descriptor of Pedi next to the 25 gauge? As in Pediatrics aka medical care for children? If you want to be technical anything meant to be used for children should never be used on an adult so to do so would be a "kindness" on the part of the medical technician. So it's completely fair for that technician to decide to not show extra kindness to someone treating them disrespectfully. Why should they. If someone came to you begging for weed and was disrespectful towards you when they didn't like the amount you gave them would you then say "Oh hey, you're right let me give you some more for pointing out my stinginess"?
Okay I'm going to take a divergent track for a moment to share a financial opportunity for people in or near the Colorado area. There is a show called Pot Barons of Colorado being aired weekly on MSNBC where they focus on the newly emerging recreational marijuana market in Colorado. Not just outlet stores either but also people manufacturing edibles and drinkables. That corner of the market is having a very hard time keeping up with demand because it relies on trim and the demand is out pacing supply so much that to adjust price to match supply and demand would be detrimental to these companies most of which don't have their own sources (grows) for trim so they have to shop around. In at least one case, one company says they can get enough of what they need out of fan leaves and therefore will even buy those. So if you are an enterprising person sitting on a pile of trim and fans you may want to go check out these places in Colorado. Just a thought.
seventhchild
Member
must not have had very mean LEO where you were at .down here in the deep south a rouch can still get your teeth kicked out of your mouth and land you in lock up for a year,not cool.two or three plants in the basement and your children go to foster homes while you and your old lady get 5 to ten in the state pen.i can ,however,relate to the vibe and connections that you mention.i started growing 40 years ago and have taught dozens of people how to grow indoors for personal use.paid in cash?never.all have given me bud without me asking,shared clones and seed freely but that is not why i shared my knowledge.these people are my friends and i just like to teach.
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS
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the potential for us to do the wrong or right thing lies equally within us all
they are "phenotypes" of human nature if you would
People make decisions on perceived causation and those who take the "evil" paths simply don't see the existence of causation past what they already know
you won't change the world by judgment, but rather through understanding
enlightenment for a lack of a better word of the complete potential of our being
they are "phenotypes" of human nature if you would
People make decisions on perceived causation and those who take the "evil" paths simply don't see the existence of causation past what they already know
you won't change the world by judgment, but rather through understanding
enlightenment for a lack of a better word of the complete potential of our being
