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hoosierdaddy

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Wow...I appreciate all the kindness and words of encouragement!


So far I am really enjoying the hell out of these lings. They perform just like I want a plant to. Although, they are a bit susceptible to the rough treatment that i give youngins. When you bend them over as soon, and as aggressive as I do, it can cause a lock-out type thing to happen on first leaf sets. It also sets the lil bitches into overdrive too, so it's a good tradeoff. Some plants seem to handle it much better than others. Some like to wait till they have 5-6 good nodes before you should stress them. These are a little touchy, but nothing to be concerned about.

I love the texture of these leaves, as well as the color.
All 8 of the lings are very similar, as I would expect a bx4 to be.
I have just started some 1/4 strength PBP,LK,CalMag+
 

LLCoolBud

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Nice and green keep it up hoosierdaddy you should be waste deep in sourbubble bombness in no time bro.
 
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grapepunched

nice shots, yes they are uniform for the
most part from seed, i found your trichome info
to be very interesting, thank you for sharing, also
they respond very well to lst/fim techniques...grow on

-gp
 

hoosierdaddy

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Man, I have thing thing about FIM...well, topping of any sort really. I do it, don't get me wrong. But I hate to. Some take real well to it and it can also set them into overdrive, but others it stalls them out bigtime. I have see this with side by sides of lst and fim. If a strain happens to stall at all using fim, the lst will blow it's doors off.
Any, I am not topping any of the sb's this round. I did FIM the two AngelDustIX I popped with the sb's.
 
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grapepunched

if you'll notice in the pics of the mother A,
i topped her right before flipping to 12/12 so
she grew two main tops.... :D

-gp
 

aldus_

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Hope they do well for ya, Ms.

Say, gp...how are the sb's preflower wise?

I have some that have been going for about a month about a foot high and they haven't shown anything. My drizzles on the other hand showed about a week ago (males first then females a day or two later).
 

hoosierdaddy

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Thnks, aldus!

charles, I take any ties off, and simply transplant. Then I redo any ties I may want to keep.
I will usually get the main branches tied back down until about a week or so into flower and keeping it furthest from the light, then I let them all go. I will only tie anything back up to train them around my lights proper. Doing it this way I can create a small stadium style thing with a single plant. No need to turn them when trained this way.

Sup, T!
 

christen23

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I am so upset i missed out on these seeds :( I could shoot myslef for not staying up uber late that night... loking great cant wait for more pics!!
 

hoosierdaddy

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Wow, she really is getting burnt up.
I haven't seen any issues with the nutes yet. They were already getting some nutrition from the ffof, and I am only giving them 1/4 strength every other or third watering...which comes fast at this stage in beer cups. They are ready for a new home.
 
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grapepunched

preflowers should appear within 6-7 days 12/12...
or will appear once the plant has reached mother status,
having many tops and maturing..you can cut your veg to 16/8
to help induce flowering faster as well...

have fun, looking good

-gp
 

hoosierdaddy

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I have always considered preflower to be before 12/12 during veg.
Flowers showing during 12/12 are not what I consider "pre" flower.

Just about any strain will show it's sex before it goes into flower, if it is let grow long enough. I think that they show most of the time just before the plant starts to alternate nodes. Thing is, it takes some plants much longer to alternate than others. I will normally not let one grow long enough to have alternating nodes before I flower.

I normally veg at 20/4, but I have been doing 18/6 for the life of these.
I am hoping to sex these before they go into the flower chamber.
 
HD if you ever see pre-flowers before you go int flower can you post a pic of them up close? I'm still trying to figure it out myself thanks...peace
 
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grapepunched

charles~ no pics of the ogbubblegum x sbbx4s,
i germ tested these and sent 'em in, then got
started on another project...though i am excited
to see these grown out, i have a friend that is growin
some of these ogb x sbbx4 and his plants actually resemble
the mother a lot and look to be a great hybrid~ we'll know
soon enough

HD~ well then as you know each strain varies,
as far as preflowers go you will just have to keep an eye on
them, i suggest you try the 16/8 to speed it up if you are
wanting to know sooner in veg, otherwise just 12/12 'em for
5-6 days, see if they don't show a lot better, you can always take
'em out of 12/12 and put 'em right back into the veg chamber after
you know what's what... if you are just going to wait for preflowers
under 18/6 then let us know when you see 'em sex,
i do remember sexing mine in veg, but i'm pretty sure i was
about 3 weeks to a month into veg and also flipped to 16/8 for 3 days
before going to 12/12

how are the phenos looking? pretty uniform?
keep us posted~

-gp
 

hoosierdaddy

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Glad you stopped in, christin. Hope I have some nice shots in the future for ya.

Yeah, I have been hip to the pre-flower thing for a couple of decades now.
I know that some strains will pre-flower much faster than others, and some not until they are quite mature. Folks killing perfectly good females, due to not having a full understanding of the pre-flower thing, is one of my pet peeves.
They see a round thing happenin, and they get in a big hurry to kill it.

As far as these go...they are not showing any signs at all of pre-flower at 18/6.
They don't have alternating nodes yet either, which is a pretty good indication of them reaching sexual maturity.
The AngelDust's that I cast at the same time as these do indeed have alternating nodes, and the first one is showing pre-flower. I have a suspicion that both of the AD's are fem, as there is no sign at all of stamen, and the father of these was a full on male preflower. In fact, the pollen that created them was collected completely in veg. less than 30 days after sprout. With GrowDoc AD's the sexing is easy, as the males show right off with no problem.

See the pre-flower showing at the node, charles?
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If you look close, you can see where the two hairs are ready to emerge from the top.
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Dank! Sup buuddy!
 
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