Government WILL Ban Guns Soon....

[GetUpStandUp]

You want to know another thing, and those in cali, mostly LA and Long Beach and inbetween can agree, this is how smart the cops are let alone the military FBI and ATF, on new years 12am it sounds like frickin war, so many shots fired, but anyone notice any cops? Not until about 1230, then they come out deep, and with cevlar, armed to the teeth. When my neighbor ex desert storm shot his AK, and his M16, it had no real effect to other shots fired that night, and best believe cop, ex military dont mistake the sound of heavy weapons, so yes they aint stupid.

 

[GetUpStandUp]

What policitian is advocating control?

LOL which one is not should be the question, the law is set, whats the 2nd amendment anymore?

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Im with you crazybear.
Sure one person isnt going to cause much attention but its a UNITED thing. The real power is in numbers, and together, we've got em by the balls.

This is what I mean, how do you figure a thread, and even talking bout it will get ppl to be in your particular situation when shit hits the fan. I am under the impression your saying all will be well if by chance your house is surrounded, and what? you give us a call and we come running with or guns to come help you?

This numbers thing, why is it only this senerio that it will be us against them all at one time? Have we looked around ppl? Anyone noticed what happened to all the thugs who will pose extream threat, they are in prison! They have been weeding us out for decades, sorry I just dont understand what you mean on how everyone will bond together at one time for a fight we all mutually agree in. We cant even drive to work in order but yet we spose to get together and bring down the military complex?

Not trying to be an ass, but the Hype is very fantastic on this issue, as in disarming ppl will be political, or even law, its a choice made by few, and not so obviously either, and how they will handle it wont be so lets say text book.

 

[Infinitesimal]

OK we get it time to close the thread

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Why because your opinion is better than mine, because you disagree, or what? Being dismissive is ok if you want to appear that way. I asked a question on your belief system, of getting all the ppl who are armed to fight against waht? and who? I pose a great question and you laugh, please say you are not armed! Because if we were both armed, and having this discussion in person in real events and we are spose to come together, I find it hard to follow someone who will laugh at me just because I thought of other factors. And inturn this will create seperation, as I would flee that type of approuch to our govt, law enforcement, or military.

If my words are laughable, them whats not laughable about whats said in your words, as I doubt anyone here will be around you if indeed shit hits the fan with you.

 

[Infinitesimal]

How is anyone going to go after all the gun owners in america with the same show of force that they displayed at WACO...you think they are going to,or can, barricade and set up snipers around every gun and assault/automatic weapon owner?



I need to remember to stay out of political/philosophical threads

 

[Capt.Ahab]

Ill say it again. There are over 80 MILLION known gun owners in the US.
If only 10 % resist ,that will be 8 million + people.
That number right there means the gun grabbers lose.

As for many of the military members who decide to follow orders to enforce an unconstitutional national gun ban/round up , they will be quickly reminded that their families are not with them but amongst those they are trying to oppress.
Just sayin', if you get my drift.

 

[Blaz3]

Lol..yeah trust me I know about the New Years shit..around here on the DOT..12:00..you dont ehar no little pistols,you hear straighth CHOPPERS (ak47's)..BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM..straighth shot after shot..NO COPS IN SIGHTH..nothing..

Every year the mayor goes on tv and begs the people NOT to shoot,thats all he can do.

Google cabrini green projects in Chicago..that shit was a straighth WAR zone..every new eyars eve people would be in the streets straighth shooting at the sky,the police were HELPLESS..

They would shoot righth in the middle of the streets with the cops just watching.

Believe me,theyr NOT stupid.

 

[SunSimulator]

Here are the good things about guns they don't tell you ,, And if everyone was carrying a weapon .. this would happen more often!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGFZDhCjvj0

 

[BrnCow]

The first, easy way is for the anti gun one world government controllers to neuter as many people as possible by convincing them that guns kill people and the persons that murder others would do it with another tool anyway...a garden hoe will kill just as fast as a gun probably...or a ball bat...but, getting next to a politician to ball bat them is harder to do. They are in fear because they can be reached out and touched with a gun...and since they are fucking up and screwing over us and other countries, they live in fear... fear should be made illegal by eliminating all of the actions that make a person fearful...a Richard is a Richard ...

 

[sso]

I knew I didn't insult you, I was just making sure you didn't think I was tryn to get into an argument.
needed more cursewords for that. i probably wouldnt have answered, unless with a joke.
I don't pay much attention to any hero figures in western stories. What I do like about westerns, especially older ones, is the morals they posses... the Ideas of right and wrong as opposed to legal and illegal... and the contrasting freedoms that they experienced as compared to todays modern societies... to me westerns are more about manifest destiny... the persecution, slaughter of indians and theft of their land... the taking of mexican lands and the revolution of Texas... the norths war AGAINST southern succession (the civil war, not at all about slavery... the emancipation proclamation was only used as tactics to get escaped blacks to fight for the north) which I find very similar yet contradictory to the vietnam and korean conflicts; where we were fighting FOR southern succession... the value and devaluation of our currency... and many many more important subjects relevant to the type of injustices we suffer today at the hands of Governments.
yes, you go deeper into it than many. pretty smart guy, but there is a reason why the general public gets called morons and ive yet to see them redeem themselves. course i might be wrong.
in fact one of my most favorite westerns is "Lonely are the brave" not at all about gunfighting all about liberty and freedom.

oooh, kirk douglas and walter matthau, im tempted to see it, despite being bored by most movies from that era. eh, can only find it in a 480p version.

History definitely repeats itself.

Peace,
Infi

mostly because people dont learn from on another.

 

[sso]

perhaps ill explain, my usage of the word morons.


i have no problem, with

lack of knowledge. (everyone is lacking in knowledge, thats just the way of things.)

lack of brains. (quickness of wit.) (the turtle sometimes beats the hare actually.)

or anything like that.


i dont like ego fights.

i dont like bullies.

and i dont like people putting themselves on a high horse and thinking they all that. (which is really a ego fight, considered won (im better than you cause..))


and to be clear.

i do think im all that.

but i also think other people are all that too.

(unless they aint nice, but hate what they do, not the people themselves, they dont know what they are doing (or they wouldnt be doing it. )

 

[greenmatter]

How is anyone going to go after all the gun owners in america with the same show of force that they displayed at WACO...you think they are going to,or can, barricade and set up snipers around every gun and assault/automatic weapon owner?



I need to remember to stay out of political/philosophical threads

now there is a very sensible question! how .....?

we can talk about flying to fucking mars and we all ask "how" because there are things that we just can't make happen.

when there is a question here on earth we freak out ,put our foil hats on and wait for the government to start kicking down doors

save the headache! just ask "how". think about it for a minute and realize that it won't be happening any time soon because it cant! not because they would not like to, but because the genie IS out of the bottle ....... and the fucktards who run this place have no idea "how' to get it back in (mostly because it is IMPOSSIBLE to do IMHO)

 

[sso]

its a good lesson.

that anytime you are angry,

then its not time to talk.

its time to think.

(cause usually you regret what was spoken in anger (because it sounds stupid in retrospect.)

anger comes from fear.

Edit : and ego. (rather insightful comment by ThePABLOS)

 

[GrinStick]

LOL....who says I'm not? I'm just not under the illusion..that they provide me a freedom. It's a different time my friend. Guns have advanced in their technology. Why are full automatic weapons banned? Why does no one argue that one?

government doesn't want you to have equality.

Violence is a dark side of the human condition (a mere part of the design)...but usually does not motivate itself. The weaker people will find trouble beating to death anyone with a stick...but put a gun in their hand...the weak become temporarily powerful.


To give in to weakness...is to give in to the dark side of nature. No banning of firearms is going to prevent this from happening...but it's interesting to note that rampaging mass murder is almost solely an American phenomenon. Something is deeply disturbed in this country.

cause the rest of the world didn't resist confiscation.

get a 50 cal in arizona. i have know a few snipers actually. my dads military friends. they taught me alot when we all went hunting at dads camp . i grew up hunting and am great shot long range with long guns.not so good with handguns tho but maybe more practice is needed as i never used em hunting . my guns are safely locked away in climate controlled storage and at family land in maine. no guns at home anymore. my 12 guage defender was last to go. i dont really feel the need to have one here.

why the fuck do superman need a gun?

There's no way they can ban us from owning guns, however I can foresee the application process and requirements changing dramatically. Oddly enough there were just as many school shootings during the 70s & 80s, they weren't over hyped by the media though. I've said this for a while but just because one person misuses an item it shouldn't be outlawed. A granny could run over a pedestrian and u don't ban senior citizens from driving or the automobile company. If you don't believe that any item can be misused try using a hair dryer in the shower, or read the warning labels of baby strollers cause they say "do not fold with child inside"

this is their propaganda to 'educate' the public (on the benefits of confiscation).

If anything I see them going after bullets and it's already happening. Soon buying bullets in every state will require a doj back ground, thumb print, and a 10 day waiting period. Also the price will go up a whole lot more. Americans will never gve up guns. Remember folks its election year. Anti gun talk is always sparks a flame at this time. Although the Colorado shooting doesnt help and just adds fuel to the fire.


But I bet we can see them going after ammo making it harder to purchase, more expensive and less available with the contiune buying in bulk by our Government.

They just need to get tougher on laws regarding violent crimes with guns and possession of stolen firearms.

What do you guys think should be done about "mentally insane" type people buying firearms?

before or after the purchase?

criminals , usually dont shoot people.


they just want your money.


i live in a "gun free" society (iceland, anyone can buy rifles ,after taking a course and getting a license.)

criminals here, never use guns.

Nuts people, shoot other people (and here? they usually stab someone to death, i actually dont remember an actual gunmurder around here, just someone getting bludgeoned to death or something.) (and usually by people heavily into pharma drugs.)


nuts people, usually dont know any criminals to sell them guns. (even if they have them.)


if you dont live in a gunhappy society (where everyone has guns.)

you dont take a gun with you on robbery. (cause if you get caught for murder, its alot more heavy punishment than just robbery, plus like i said, they want money, not your life.)

robberies around here, are just usually someone with a hammer or something, threatening a small shop keeper.

and you can actually, buy something like a uzi, here on the black market.


so, which makes me think, its not guns that are america´s problem.

its the way and how people people think over there..

Iceland is soo far away...

Certainly they want to ban guns. Will they do it before the election, not likely. It doesn't have support in the congress right now.

All of that could change if they had the right false flag. http://www.infowars.com/dhs-source-its-going-hot-obama-false-flag-coming/

what is the difference between the myriad of false flags they been waving and the one that will ban firearms? (think Osama Bin Laden is going to murder your family?)

People are shot all over the world..Everyday. I find it odd you pointing at the US. Do you have statistics? I agree as a person looking at the US news, maybe you could conclude that. Realize its very easy for them to flood the news with every shooting all over the world. Real news is never reported.


Guns dont kill people, Dumb people with guns, kill people.
Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China..
Yes we're going to protect our right to keep and bear arms. urfuckinright. To the death of it, and Id hope others would follow.
This is our second amendment. It was put there for a reason. Many have fought and died to protect these rights.
Your post has boggled me

apparantly more will have to die to prove the point.

Why because your opinion is better than mine, because you disagree, or what? Being dismissive is ok if you want to appear that way. I asked a question on your belief system, of getting all the ppl who are armed to fight against waht? and who? I pose a great question and you laugh, please say you are not armed! Because if we were both armed, and having this discussion in person in real events and we are spose to come together, I find it hard to follow someone who will laugh at me just because I thought of other factors. And inturn this will create seperation, as I would flee that type of approuch to our govt, law enforcement, or military.

If my words are laughable, them whats not laughable about whats said in your words, as I doubt anyone here will be around you if indeed shit hits the fan with you.

this is ludicrous. would you not try to help your peers/fellow man?

Ill say it again. There are over 80 MILLION known gun owners in the US.
If only 10 % resist ,that will be 8 million + people.
That number right there means the gun grabbers lose.

As for many of the military members who decide to follow orders to enforce an unconstitutional national gun ban/round up , they will be quickly reminded that their families are not with them but amongst those they are trying to oppress.
Just sayin', if you get my drift.

my thought too. not realistic to think they would be spared...but who is pointing out the combatants families? noone has that info but the enemy.

guns were never the problem.

 

[VerdantGreen]

double post!!

 

[VerdantGreen]

double post

 

[VerdantGreen]

People are shot all over the world..Everyday. I find it odd you pointing at the US. Do you have statistics? I agree as a person looking at the US news, maybe you could conclude that. Realize its very easy for them to flood the news with every shooting all over the world. Real news is never reported.


Guns dont kill people, Dumb people with guns, kill people.
Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China..
Yes we're going to protect our right to keep and bear arms. urfuckinright. To the death of it, and Id hope others would follow.
This is our second amendment. It was put there for a reason. Many have fought and died to protect these rights.
Your post has boggled me

firstly, i was asked for my opinion and i gave it.

yes i posted stats. check my other posts in the thread. USA has twice the assault deaths of any other OECD country.

In the UK we are a democracy thanks. very few people own guns and we have had only 1 mass shooting that i can remember.

all these people saying that 'guns dont kill people' are being a bit obtuse about it imo. without the guns the crazy people would find it much harder to commit mass murder.
so you can blame the morals etc etc, but the guns facilitate the killing to a huge extent.

VG

 

[supermanlives]

why? cause gun=fun. i am suprised we dont see more crazy mofos blowing shit up. everyone knows bombs are better than guns

 

[sso]

iceland far away?

depends on where you are, its equally far from europe and america and closer to the northwest of north america than the southern part of the u.s

but yeah, its basically in fuck nowhere. peace and quiet mostly, unless you go to paint the red downtown on the weekends.

its about 50/50 dumbass hicks and artists, (with a smattering of scam artists that are mostly in politics or behind the scenes in business. (banking and stuff.))

and though weed is still illegal, the fines are small and electricity cheap. (everything else real pricey , including weed, not in the top spots of the highest price per gram, but close to the top, (i think greenland is at the top.))

and this year a bunch of people smoked in front of parliament on 4/20 and the cops did nothing. the dumb ass hicks are progressing. (or maybe the artists are finally getting more numerous.)