Gorilla Glue #4

[Loc Dog]

You have to order the chitosan from China ...no more DUDs once you'be used it for about a month.... it kills them within the plant... it creates enzymes that eat them alive and every stage of their delevopment

Why from China??? Because it is cheaper??

How much per gallon??

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

That's what I mean. All this talk of duds and their causes, but not one positive test result.

that dud was sent in as a single above ground branch with some leaves it was sent in before the toades were known and was a very unlikely sample to detect them. if it was done over, the two inches above the rootball would be sent.

 

[Storm Shadow]

http://www.biocontrols.com/secure/shop/item.aspx?itemid=141

You can order this product but it cost 100X more than the China price..

Chitosan Oligosaccharide Lactate

 

[RetroGrow]

they have chitosan on Amazon. There all dietary supplements. Is this different then what your talking about here?

I use these products. Some for veg some for flower.
http://www.beneficialbiologics.com/index.php/kelp-logic
http://www.beneficialbiologics.com/index.php/humalogic
http://www.beneficialbiologics.com/index.php/sea-green
http://www.beneficialbiologics.com/index.php/rootamentary
http://www.beneficialbiologics.com/index.php/root-bloom

It's the same thing. It has many different uses. One thing it's marketed as is a weight loss, or "fat blocking" product. Some people use it to "cleanse" their system. That would be an expensive way to buy it though, for our purposes. It's a sugar, which increases immune response in plants, much like salicylic acid does, both of which increase plants defenses against insects and fungi.
From Wiki:
Chitinases are also present in plants (barley seed chitinase: PDB 1CNS, EC 3.2.1.14); some of these are pathogenesis related (PR) proteins that are induced as part of systemic acquired resistance. Expression is mediated by the NPR1 gene and the salicylic acid pathway, both involved in resistance to fungal and insect attack. Other plant chitinases may be required for creating fungal symbioses.
The link between chitinases and salicylic acid in plants is well established.

 

[milkyjoe]

Chitinase is an enzyme...you want chitosan.

Chitenase will break down chitin into chitosan...but it ain't a fast process and you need chitin to start with.

Sea shield is my source of chitosan

 

[Loc Dog]

FYI - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitosan#Usage

Still wondering about dosage, per gallon for hydro, in grams.

 

[acridlab]

Advanced nutrients have been preaching Chitosan for years,, that's they're, selling point on the bud factor x.. I tried it out for a few and never saw a difference..might not have enough?
There's a really good thread on here about Chitosan, tho,, and it talks about other products withit in it..

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

1/4-1 gram in every feed or a couple times a week. Also foliar applications are popular. has been mentioned but I think it's been posted a couple times. Threads on this topics Are on this site.

 

[Hammerhead]

It's not something I need. My plants are all doing fine with what I feed. One of the products I use might already have it. Even if it doesn't I have never had a dud or any issue other than a slight deficiency that I can fix..

 

[Loose Cannon]

1/4-1 gram in every feed or a couple times a week. Also foliar applications are popular. has been mentioned but I think it's been posted a couple times. Threads on this topics Are on this site.

Is that per gal?

 

[Marlo]

It's only been about 10 days, but my last GG4 is starting to show signs of re-veg'n !



Whew!....

 

[Cannavore]

Chitin and chitosan are naturally-occurring compounds that have potential in agriculture with regard to controlling plant diseases. These molecules were shown to display toxicity and inhibit fungal growth and development. They were reported to be active against viruses, bacteria and other pests. Fragments from chitin and chitosan are known to have eliciting activities leading to a variety of defense responses in host plants in response to microbial infections, including the accumulation of phytoalexins, pathogen-related (PR) proteins and proteinase inhibitors, lignin synthesis, and callose formation. Based on these and other proprieties that help strengthen host plant defenses, interest has been growing in using them in agricultural systems to reduce the negative impact of diseases on yield and quality of crops.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2866471/

Informative stuff.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

Is that per gal?

yes, always.

 

[who dat is]

Is the chitosan pretty much doing the same thing that supplemental silicon is?

 

[milkyjoe]

No. Silicon becomes a structural part of the plant...google hugh lovell for an excellent explanation. Chitosan is an immune response elicitor.

However, I use Sea Shield because it provides both...and sorry I sound like spam by now. Stuff is fantastic though...but I promise to shut up about it.

 

[RetroGrow]

It's not something I need. My plants are all doing fine with what I feed. One of the products I use might already have it. Even if it doesn't I have never had a dud or any issue other than a slight deficiency that I can fix..

If it ain't broke, don't fix it....

 

[Hammerhead]

I have completely eradicated the Sour Dubb verigation from 1 cut, 1 more has very little visible.The other 2 will require more work. Since I have 1 that is all gone she will be used for cuts only she is now the mom. If I can do the same with the others that's even better

 

[RetroGrow]

that dud was sent in as a single above ground branch with some leaves it was sent in before the toades were known and was a very unlikely sample to detect them. if it was done over, the two inches above the rootball would be sent.

Proving what????
That there hasn't been a single test result proving anything about stem nematodes re: Sour Dubb (or any other strain, for that matter). Sour Dubb "issue" is the topic here, as it's a predecessor of GG4.
You previously thought that phytoplasmas were the cause of the dudding you are guessing at, until testing proved that theory wrong.
You also posted that aspirin is not soluble in water.
So, I'm going to go with science over your guesswork.
Let us know when you get a positive test for any dud theories.

 

[Midwest sticky]

All the pics in this thread are amazing you guys are killing it

 

[SPG.]

^ I've "Taken" loads for a Thread Elsewhere!.. ..