Gorilla Glue #4

[Hammerhead]

it still happens, not sure if it's the same thing as the nematode dudds though, more like a more hairy,slightly less frosty, no brittle stems, no candlebra structure etc. still every bit as vigorous as a non dudd thing. I believe Azez has a few of them that went dudd as well as resin ryder

I still have no clue why this happens to some. If this was going to happen it would have been this run. The 2 cuts I had taken where the worst I had ever flowered. Spindly crappy cuts I should have never flowered I did not want to flower the moms yet. I wanted to veg them for awhile so I took the 2 lowest branches. They produced the same quality. The yield was not up to par. It's still a mystery to me why it happens.


If its a nematode thing then we at least know its not the strain itself.

 

[SirSmokalot]

Yeah I threw in two weak clones into my sog and they look similar to azez
They looked weak and runty since rooting I put them in to fill the corner up n see what happens. Well I'm not surprised they are still shitty.
I may have drown them out a lil or something. They rooted I planted them and flipped them. They never looked good. The other 34 plants in the sog are all caked with frost my dub looks like gsc frost lol
I may just chop them down but I'm about to start flush already. The glue look like they're starting week 4 with the trichs of a 2.5 week glue. But they're finishing up week 6
The glue I just chopped is very nice that's where they came from. My other clones look great too. Hopefully it's only the runts being runts that got drown
Very curious. I don't have bugs. I haven't used anything on them besides feeding them.

Deezy u described it perfectly. No brittle stems.

 

[Pro Headies]

Just ordered the Tangie and just recieved GreenHouses' Super Lemon Haze.
Im gonna reverse the GG#4 and make these GG#4 crosses:

SLH x GG4(r)
Tangie x GG4(r)
SSSDH x GG4(r)
Chemical Blue x GG4(r)

Pretty stoked to see what gems come from these.
Enjoy the Holiday Glue lovers!

Tangie x gg#4 fems!!! Hell yeah count me in on those gems...

 

[Hammerhead]

Yeah I threw in two weak clones into my sog and they look similar to azez
They looked weak and runty since rooting I put them in to fill the corner up n see what happens. Well I'm not surprised they are still shitty.
I may have drown them out a lil or something. They rooted I planted them and flipped them. They never looked good. The other 34 plants in the sog are all caked with frost my dub looks like gsc frost lol
I may just chop them down but I'm about to start flush already. The glue look like they're starting week 4 with the trichs of a 2.5 week glue. But they're finishing up week 6
The glue I just chopped is very nice that's where they came from. My other clones look great too. Hopefully it's only the runts being runts that got drown
Very curious. I don't have bugs. I haven't used anything on them besides feeding them.

Deezy u described it perfectly. No brittle stems.

Sounds more like a cut selection issue. I have noticed If I take cuts from the branches closer to the top I always get great results.. Cuts taken form the bottom just don't perform the same(yield) unless there vegged longer then cuts taken from higher up. I can still see the internode spacing is not as good as middle/top cuts.

 

[whadeezlrg]

possibly but the variance in finished product is enough to suggest something else is going on. I take all of my cuts the same way and this has been an isolated issue on gg4. the variance from tops to side branches is limited to node spacing, general structure etc like you mentioned but the flowers are always the same structure/quality as the flowers on clones taken from tops and side branches, this is almost like two completely different plants.

 

[SirSmokalot]

possibly but the variance in finished product is enough to suggest something else is going on. I take all of my cuts the same way and this has been an isolated issue on gg4. the variance from tops to side branches is limited to node spacing, general structure etc like you mentioned but the flowers are always the same structure/quality as the flowers on clones taken from tops and side branches, this is almost like two completely different plants.

Yes
i almost exclusively only use tops. They always give me better plants.
Like he said
Like it's 2 different plants. This is the first time I've experienced it personally.

 

[RetroGrow]

possibly but the variance in finished product is enough to suggest something else is going on. I take all of my cuts the same way and this has been an isolated issue on gg4. the variance from tops to side branches is limited to node spacing, general structure etc like you mentioned but the flowers are always the same structure/quality as the flowers on clones taken from tops and side branches, this is almost like two completely different plants.

I'm guessing aspirin (slaicylic acid) will mitigate this issue.

 

[Treetroit City]

I think in the case of the pics azez posted it was more than cut selection. Those looked nothing like glue no disrespect. Something else going on there.

 

[Hammerhead]

I must have missed those pics. I still think this is very strange phenomenon. There are alot of people that have been growing her since JW let her loose including JW himself. None of us have encountered this issue. Something triggers it on certain plants.. Do these plants get infected with those toads? Theres already a thread for this. I don't want to derail this one. The sour Dubb has this also from what im told. JW did have alot of them dud on him.

 

[SPG.]

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and thats airstone bubbling water aka aeroponics ...... YEP been around for yrs n yrs.....I.E the Spray reaches 12" High +..
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LATER WITH MORE such 'VALUABLE' INFO ...." " LOLLLL

 

[Hammerhead]

I don't have any gg#4 being dusted at the moment only the Sour Dubb is.

 

[RetroGrow]

I must have missed those pics. I still think this is very strange phenomenon. There are alot of people that have been growing her since JW let her loose including JW himself. None of us have encountered this issue. Something triggers it on certain plants.. Do these plants get infected with those toads? Theres already a thread for this. I don't want to derail this one. The sour Dubb has this also from what im told. JW did have alot of them dud on him.

Anything with Sour Dubb in it has potential for some duds. Aspirin will mitigate this propensity, as it boosts immune system. Chitosan also boosts plant's immune system, as does humic & fulvic acids. Rumor has it that Canna Boost has chitosan in it, but this isn't confirmed. Anything that boosts plant's immune system will help ward off problems.

 

[whadeezlrg]

I must have missed those pics. I still think this is very strange phenomenon. There are alot of people that have been growing her since JW let her loose including JW himself. None of us have encountered this issue. Something triggers it on certain plants.. Do these plants get infected with those toads? Theres already a thread for this. I don't want to derail this one. The sour Dubb has this also from what im told. JW did have alot of them dud on him.

ResinRyder has probably had the glue for quite some time as well, and as sir mentioned like 100 pages back when azez posted his pics that RR was dealing with duded glues. I got my cuts 1 hand removed from JW from a bro that wasn't having dudd issues(he's local to JW), and those turned out fine, and 2 of the 12 or so cuts I took from them that I gifted to a buddy went dudd, while mine were fine. I don't know the cause but I imagine that nematodes would present themselves with less variance(more than 2 cuts out of 40 or so total including a few other strains in the aero)

 

[RetroGrow]

ResinRyder has probably had the glue for quite some time as well, and as sir mentioned like 100 pages back when azez posted his pics that RR was dealing with duded glues. I got my cuts 1 hand removed from JW from a bro that wasn't having dudd issues(he's local to JW), and those turned out fine, and 2 of the 12 or so cuts I took from them that I gifted to a buddy went dudd, while mine were fine. I don't know the cause but I imagine that nematodes would present themselves with less variance(more than 2 cuts out of 40 or so total including a few other strains in the aero)

Nematodes would also show up on a test, which hasn't happened.

 

[whadeezlrg]

yeah, to me it's cheaper to weed out the weaklings then to send things off to labs(not to mention security issues) I don't really care what's causing them, I take extra cuts for the sole purpose of having a field to select from...weaker cuts either get given away or thrown away...at the end of the day they're just plants, and I'll grow the good ones...but that's the difference between gg4 dudds, as they don't have the typical dudd traits, they just don't put out the same quality of finished product, though they maintain the level of vigor, yield etc. it's just weird and unfortunately a bit more unpredictable than typical dudds

 

[theother]

yeah, to me it's cheaper to weed out the weaklings then to send things off to labs(not to mention security issues) I don't really care what's causing them, I take extra cuts for the sole purpose of having a field to select from...weaker cuts either get given away or thrown away...at the end of the day they're just plants, and I'll grow the good ones...but that's the difference between gg4 dudds, as they don't have the typical dudd traits, they just don't put out the same quality of finished product, though they maintain the level of vigor, yield etc. it's just weird and unfortunately a bit more unpredictable than typical dudds

THIS!! I've thought this for awhile about the dud thing. When I take cuts of any strain I take lots of nice cuts, more than I need. I weed out weaklings in cubes and again in cups. I just toss the rest. However when it is as train as popular as gg#4 those culled cuts tend to get passed out to friends. Never flower the weaklings so I don't know if other strains would "dud" but I suspect it's a contributing factor.

I know this is a sensitive issue, and I don't have a dog in the fight so to speak, but just have thought it for awhile. Kind of seems like as moms get established we are hearing less about it.

 

[Chunkypigs]

so I had this glue flowering next to an OGKB and the constant rubbing and stinky,
gooey discharge inspired my poor cookie girl to make babies….

OGKB #3 feminised bagseed breeder.

I'm thinking of calling their illegitimate offspring GG 4 x OGKB 3 = GlueBreath…

 

[who dat is]

I'm loving how mine is branching out and growing laterally rather than trying to bust through the roof, working out perfectly for my setup.

Lovin' it

 

[Backyard Farmer]

In the soil...gonna try to jump start em with some soluble P? Do you think you can avoid shutting down the myco fungi?

I don't know it's one of those things I'm on the fence about and really wonder how much AM would be affected by a spring application of HyperCaP to kick start growing plants in colder temps...I'm not really sure what will happen...I guess I could try it on one plant and use I think its' Trypan blue to test for colonization...

 

[Red Fang]

really nice pics chunkypigs!