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Gorilla Glue #4

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milkyjoe

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I don't know it's one of those things I'm on the fence about and really wonder how much AM would be affected by a spring application of HyperCaP to kick start growing plants in colder temps...I'm not really sure what will happen...I guess I could try it on one plant and use I think its' Trypan blue to test for colonization...

Graeme Sait promotes getting things started with soluble P like that and innoculating. I did a similar thing last yr.

This yr I plan to rely on the micronized P...make the myco work at least a little bit.

No clue which is best though.

Edit...you gotta be sure they don't start too fast and get rootbound in the pot...but you know that
 

Backyard Farmer

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Graeme Sait promotes getting things started with soluble P like that and innoculating. I did a similar thing last yr.

This yr I plan to rely on the micronized P...make the myco work at least a little bit.

No clue which is best though.

Edit...you gotta be sure they don't start too fast and get rootbound in the pot...but you know that

It makes scientific sense , to approach with the former methodology , however lately I've come to realize that there are much more esoteric forces at play in this whole trip...

It sucks when they get root bound in the pot. I had good timing this past year but also great early on weather that let me Plug In before things got away from me.

I'm doing cuts on 4/20 next year and growing all DOG in my full season gardens.:tiphat:
 

Loose Cannon

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i've only heard good things about DHN, never used them myself as im not in CA, but 12 per clone is legit, and they have the glue (so i've heard)

I've had DHN's The White & Blue Dream for quite a while with very good reviews from our fans.
Offloaded many BD babies to our outdoorsy types last year and many are back for more already, for greenhouse and early rounds.

They are at Harborside and Elemental in Bay Area and a few others around Nor-Cal including Sac area, FYI.:biggrin:
 

Hammerhead

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I don't think this is the same as the duds we saw from the beginning. These are most likely just underperformed cuts and has nothing to do with the dud issue we saw a year or so ago. The 2 that are in flower now are fine but not the same as the ones I flowered from better cuts witch leads me back to cut selection. I would not call them duds though. I guess it depends on what we think duds are. Lots of factors involved. I don't think finding a few plants that underperformed is the same dud problem that started this last year. I got a cut dubtech7 x tress dawg she was no where near what others got. was it a dud? probably not she just didn't perform in my garden. GG#4 will fool you. I have got many questions about her looks late in flower (week 6 or so) all thought they had a dud because they had small flowers. I told them to wait it out and sure enough they where all surprised what happens in those last few weeks. Anyway I'm pretty sure the original dud issue is gone what some are seeing now is a different issue.

I use humic acid 55%..Comes in a black powder from beneficial Bio..
 

Storm Shadow

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Pectinase=DUD

Its the reaction from this enzyme secreted by the Stem Nematode that's causing all of the confusion... it's very hard to understand without dealing it with it for quite sometime... its some pretty crazy shit when you start reading about it...

DUD's go through various stages of growth b4 they are legit if so ever again... You have to have been with the strain for a long time to understand the slightest reactions to the Pectinase ...Healthy vs Unhealthy

Chitosan is gets the job done
 

Cannavore

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Pectinase=DUD

Its the reaction from this enzyme secreted by the Stem Nematode that's causing all of the confusion... it's very hard to understand without dealing it with it for quite sometime... its some pretty crazy shit when you start reading about it...

DUD's go through various stages of growth b4 they are legit if so ever again... You have to have been with the strain for a long time to understand the slightest reactions to the Pectinase ...Healthy vs Unhealthy

Chitosan is gets the job done

I have some chitin from crustacean meal in my medium.. Do you use Chitosan Oligosaccharide? If so where'd you get it? Ive seen products like Softguard online (liquid chitosan o.)
 

Hammerhead

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does that mean it kills off the tode's or just keep the enzymes in check? if one stopped using Chitosan would there dud issue return? My cut must not have had any of these. There are very few that have been running her longer than I. I'm pretty sure JW has never had a dud from the glue.
 

Cannavore

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Yah I'm just interested in having some of that stuff on hand in case I needed it. I personally havent had any problem yet.
 

thewhitelotus

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taking these down on Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Next round they are getting this!

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RetroGrow

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does that mean it kills off the tode's or just keep the enzymes in check? if one stopped using Chitosan would there dud issue return? My cut must not have had any of these. There are very few that have been running her longer than I. I'm pretty sure JW has never had a dud from the glue.

No one has posted a single test proving stem nematodes. The testing is available. It's no secret where they need to be sent.
 

Storm Shadow

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You have to order the chitosan from China ...no more DUDs once you'be used it for about a month.... it kills them within the plant... it creates enzymes that eat them alive and every stage of their delevopment
 

Grizz

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SS I was also reading that chitosan is used in bud boosters, have you noticed it helping in that aspect as well ?
 

milkyjoe

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Chitosan induces an ISR response. In a plant that makes essential oils the isr response will manifest as higher essential oil production...the plants natural response to stress. So in that sense of bud booster...yes. I would not expect a yield response
 

milkyjoe

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Even better would be to add some sea crop and/or enzymes with the chitosan. In the case of sea crop you are providing the raw material to make enzymes which catalize the reactions that make the essential oils. In the case of enzymes you are reducing the energy load on the microbes making them more efficient
 

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milkyjoe

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I was not thinking about every circumstane in my last answer. If your plants are under stress and if the chitosan successfully relieves that stress you would definitely see a yield bump.

But if your plants are healthy I still doubt a yield bump.
 
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