Gorilla Glue #4

[oneofus]

Variegation

Variegation

Caused by random genetic mutation, or,

pigmentation overloads, or,

nutritional problems, or,

very rarely a virus, although these usually show up as mosaics.

Just take your cuts from non-affected shoots and you should be fine. It sounds like this is what PF is doing. That's what I do when I get this from time to time and it goes away.

BTW, JW was right about not adding N. I added too much accidentally and my glues are so delayed in flowering they look a good two weeks behind. Stupid f'n mistake. I should have known better after reading this whole thread.....Actually had all of the older fan leaves turn a very dark green and have ripples in them. Never seen this before and I was scared to death that I would lose them all. I thought it might be N toxicity, but, oddly,they didn't show leaf tip claw or leaf tip burn till much later which would have told me exactly what I did wrong instantly. When that happened I finally figured it out. I cut the N and the new growth on the vegging plants are back to normal and the flowering ones are finally getting back on track. Can anyone say 12 week glues...? Hope my next run looks more like your guys and not this mess I now have on my hands. Live and learn I guess.

Just my

hope this helps.


http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/bo...s/generalstructure/leafcolor/variegation.html

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/sansevieria/msg101059485324.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variegation

http://www.hortmag.com/weekly-tips/variegatedplants

 

[LyryC]

13 a g? 240 a zip? LOL you can tell its not good just by the price.

Proper glue, she get you way better #s.

Respect JW - shit im smoking some of her right now

 

[Hammerhead]

Mine are getting better with increased EC levels... I would never add just N it would be an increase in all like I'm doing now. They all where getting 1EC. The Dubb is now getting 1.3EC it's def helping. I take cuts from any area that's ready. Don't pay much attention to witch have it. I'm still going to use all the cuts I can get. Variegation is not effecting anything as far as I can tell.

 

[LyryC]

has anyone ever seen this in gg#4 ?.. I have not

my pineapple haze does this if I feed it Advanced Nutrients

 

[Mikenite69]

I'll have to try and pump the D with more mag with the epsom salts. I was adding cal/mg to my feed using earth juice cal/mg with rock nutrients grow and supercharge as my base. I ran this for veg which has cal/mg in it. I also ran it into first 2 weeks of flip plus I also feed with tap water so I would figure being I am on city water she should of got all the cal/mg she needed.

 

[oneofus]

Mine are getting better with increased EC levels... I would never add just N it would be an increase in all like I'm doing now. They all were getting 1EC. The Dubb is now getting 1.3EC it's def helping. I take cuts from any area that's ready. Don't pay much attention to witch have it. I'm still going to use all the cuts I can get. Variegation is not affecting anything as far as I can tell.

@PF.....not advocating for you to be adding N for fixing your variegation....that was a separate screw-up on my part by accidentally adding too much N when I fed my glues. My doing that has nothing to do with variegation...sorry for the misunderstanding....and since as you up your EC slowly and you're seeing it go away....it would seem as though yours is nutrition related, which as I stated is one of four basic possibilities....that's all I was trying to say....YOU do not need MY advice on how to grow....your werk speaks for itself...13.6 zips from ONE plant? No, you don't need me to tell you how to grow....wasn't trying to...again, sorry if you thought that.....just adding some info on causes of variegation and how I screwed up my glues BY accidentally adding too much N...that's all

BTW, I mentioned taking cuts from non-affected areas only if the cause of the variegation is indeed a mutation. Clearly yours are not. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding...

Hope I can get mine to look like yours.

 

[Grizz]

I'll have to try and pump the D with more mag with the epsom salts. I was adding cal/mg to my feed using earth juice cal/mg with rock nutrients grow and supercharge as my base. I ran this for veg which has cal/mg in it. I also ran it into first 2 weeks of flip plus I also feed with tap water so I would figure being I am on city water she should of got all the cal/mg she needed.

that's the problem, they aren't needing the cal. just the mag. Epsom salt is a cure for sure.

 

[dank.frank]

^^^ Exactly like JW said...

To much calcium and you can lock stuff out...you aren't seeing the small rusty like circles like you will with a calcium def...

That's why you just want to adjust the magnesium...thus the epsom salts.

I always take a cup of boiling water, add the epsom to that so it fully dissolves and then add that back to the gallon jug...

Works like a charm and that discoloration WILL go away...



dank.Frank

 

[Hammerhead]

@PF.....not advocating for you to be adding N for fixing your variegation....that was a separate screw-up on my part by accidentally adding too much N when I fed my glues. My doing that has nothing to do with variegation...sorry for the misunderstanding....and since as you up your EC slowly and you're seeing it go away....it would seem as though yours is nutrition related, which as I stated is one of four basic possibilities....that's all I was trying to say....YOU do not need MY advice on how to grow....your werk speaks for itself...13.6 zips from ONE plant? No, you don't need me to tell you how to grow....wasn't trying to...again, sorry if you thought that.....just adding some info on causes of variegation and how I screwed up my glues BY accidentally adding too much N...that's all

BTW, I mentioned taking cuts from non-affected areas only if the cause of the variegation is indeed a mutation. Clearly yours are not. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding...

Hope I can get mine to look like yours.

with a change in the food seems to be a nutrient issue to me.?. I do have some Magnum(mg). will try some.

Its all in the genes gg#4 is a wonderful plant. You give her a long veg she will produce. Grow her healthy she will do the rest.

 

[Gringo Kid]

GG4 is a great plant and smoke. It is very popular here in Denver. Very sticky and fun to grow and smoke. I have some tiny girls at the moment. I will post pics when they are bigger.

 

[Jhhnn]

13 a g? 240 a zip? LOL you can tell its not good just by the price.

Proper glue, she get you way better #s.

Respect JW - shit im smoking some of her right now

I think weed is just cheaper here. Honest.

I'm no expert, but the glue I sampled from holistic life was excellent. Had I grown it, I'd be damned proud of it, with a big tip of the hat to its creator.

 

[high life 45]

There's a lot more to this than "milk removes calcium from your bones." It's just not that simple.

Lol @ fat-free raw milk...

Im sorry for simplifying.. we could get into homocytienes and methionine, and magnesium. if you want details they are widely available. It should be right up your alley considering your education/career. .if you want to start a thread on dairy/animal proteins and calcium Im all for participating in it.

"[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Times NewRoman]A 1994 study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (Remer T, Am J Clin Nutr 1994;59:1356-61) found that animal proteins cause calcium to be leached from the bones and excreted in the urine.[/FONT]"

"Women with high animal-to-vegetable protein rations were heavier and had higher intake of total protein. These women had a significantly increased rate of bone loss than those who ate just vegetable protein. Women consuming higher rates of animal protein had higher rates of bone loss and hip fracture by a factor of four times."

All Im saying is how ironic it is that the dairy industry continues to promote the cause of bone disease as the cure.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

lol, Colorado product my ass, why cant these fuck heads get it right, dident even know the genetics. if anyone in colo can set him str8 I would appreciate it.

When they called it a product of Colorado I think they were talking about the crappy drying of the bud. As in being over dried. Not that it is from there genetically.

So my impression was he was calling Colorado weed over dried crap.

 

[oneofus]

with a change in the food seems to be a nutrient issue to me.?. I do have some Magnum(mg). will try some.

Its all in the genes gg#4 is a wonderful plant. You give her a long veg she will produce. Grow her healthy she will do the rest.

from what you say, I would agree it seems that nutrition is the cause....just don't ask me which one...lol...last thing I'm going to do is to give someone who has been growing gg4 this long nutrient advice and have it screw up their grow...it's obvious you're doing something right, man. Just look at your werk.

I'm giving them the longest veg time I possibly can given the constraints of the size of the two bedrooms (small) in my house and the length of flowering (70 days) and how quickly they get BIG and the number of plants that will fit ( I took wayyyy too many clones - 55 - and they all rooted and now I'm trying to find space for them all...guess I could have worse problems than too many gg4 cuts lol...). As far as keeping them healthy, now that I have my first run with the glue under my belt, I have a much better idea of what she likes and does not like. Improvements will follow as I get her dialed in.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[bobblehead]

Im sorry for simplifying.. we could get into homocytienes and methionine, and magnesium. if you want details they are widely available. It should be right up your alley considering your education/career. .if you want to start a thread on dairy/animal proteins and calcium Im all for participating in it.

"[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Times NewRoman]A 1994 study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (Remer T, Am J Clin Nutr 1994;59:1356-61) found that animal proteins cause calcium to be leached from the bones and excreted in the urine.[/FONT]"

"Women with high animal-to-vegetable protein rations were heavier and had higher intake of total protein. These women had a significantly increased rate of bone loss than those who ate just vegetable protein. Women consuming higher rates of animal protein had higher rates of bone loss and hip fracture by a factor of four times."

All Im saying is how ironic it is that the dairy industry continues to promote the cause of bone disease as the cure.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=6700033#post6700033

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Well I think the solution to this milk thing is obvious. We need to roll a big fat gg#4 up to get our appetite up to eat those damn cows. If we have enough t-bone dinners there won't be any left to make this god awful milk stuff.

I better get more gg#4 going to do my humble part. JW is our savior it appears.

 

[krustallos]

When they called it a product of Colorado I think they were talking about the crappy drying of the bud. As in being over dried. Not that it is from there genetically.

So my impression was he was calling Colorado weed over dried crap.

 

[Jbomber79]

When they called it a product of Colorado I think they were talking about the crappy drying of the bud. As in being over dried. Not that it is from there genetically.

So my impression was he was calling Colorado weed over dried crap.

common problem in CO.. and if you don't know any better..

 

[Ichabod Crane]

common problem in CO.. and if you don't know any better..

Truth be told it is the sellers fault. If they bought over dried crap they should know how to fix it. Not rocket science.

 

[SirSmokalot]

Caused by random genetic mutation, or,

pigmentation overloads, or,

nutritional problems, or,

very rarely a virus, although these usually show up as mosaics.

Just take your cuts from non-affected shoots and you should be fine. It sounds like this is what PF is doing. That's what I do when I get this from time to time and it goes away.

BTW, JW was right about not adding N. I added too much accidentally and my glues are so delayed in flowering they look a good two weeks behind. Stupid f'n mistake. I should have known better after reading this whole thread.....Actually had all of the older fan leaves turn a very dark green and have ripples in them. Never seen this before and I was scared to death that I would lose them all. I thought it might be N toxicity, but, oddly,they didn't show leaf tip claw or leaf tip burn till much later which would have told me exactly what I did wrong instantly. When that happened I finally figured it out. I cut the N and the new growth on the vegging plants are back to normal and the flowering ones are finally getting back on track. Can anyone say 12 week glues...? Hope my next run looks more like your guys and not this mess I now have on my hands. Live and learn I guess.

Just my

hope this helps.


http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/bo...s/generalstructure/leafcolor/variegation.html

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/sansevieria/msg101059485324.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variegation

http://www.hortmag.com/weekly-tips/variegatedplants

Mine always look two weeks behind til bout week 6