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not true, my partner RJ feeds 2 times then flushes or leaches as you say with no negative affects, ZOOLANDER does the same , he used to post hear a lot , 2 feeds then leach or flush, excellent grower, both of themwhat hammer said .
Leaching is feeding plain water at the end of the plants cycle instead of nutrients .
Flushing is pouring enough water (or low dose nutrients in coco's case ) into the pot that you "flush" out any excess salts build up . usually at least half the volume of the pot .
you never FLUSH coco with plain water unless your at the end of the cycle or you'll off set the cation balance & cause problems .
this is some of RJ's work,
2 feeds then a plain water feed ??? how the fuck do these guys not see problems ? if i did that , i'd have all kinds of defs showing because the PH would be outa whack . if i let the PH swing to much in the rez , my plants let me know within a day .
its gotta have something to do with the 5 gallon pots & the every other day feed , they must have the coco conditioned after a couple feeds , to react like a soil does . its the only thing i can think of
its gotta have something to do with the 5 gallon pots & the every other day feed , they must have the coco conditioned after a couple feeds , to react like a soil does . its the only thing i can think of
I was under the impression to flush, means using water with mild nutrient added to it..
And leaching meant plain water, i have been growing many a moon in coco and have never leached "plain water" in between...
http://www.just4growers.com/stream/...nhancers/flushing-and-leaching-explained.aspx
And leaching meant plain water, i have been growing many a moon in coco and have never leached "plain water" in between...
http://www.just4growers.com/stream/...nhancers/flushing-and-leaching-explained.aspx
flushing is a more drastic change to the soil/coco & the plant than leaching is . leaching takes longer to get the nutrients out & is less of a shock to the plant . which is better if ya ask me . when your using the flush to fix a problem , your reintroducing the nutes on your next feed to revigorate the plant & soil . not so when your flushing at the end .
I used to always do "fresh water fridays" in coco, just ph'd it and that was all. saved me over 15% in nutes and never saw negative effects. in fact, I may just start implementing that little nugget again now that I think about it. I dont water to runoff either, and that was a big reason behind the FWF- it allowed any nutes that were just hanging in the moisture of the medium to be leached into the plain water and I'm guessing made them all readily available again.
yes, when I was doing that on a regular basis it was smallboy filtered tap I think I may have added a very small amount of molasses on occasion as well. the reasoning was definitely to try and use up any nutes that may have just been floating around unavailable in the medium and it also helped to eliminate any potential salt buildups
got me baffled brutha !!!
straight coco ??? no organic matter in there at all ?
nope, str8 canna coco, catch tray under pot, waters and lets plant use run off also, by the 2nd day you can imagine how a big plant sucks up water, no phing,
Deezy I remember you doing that lazy Friday deal
good to see you around
lol you called me out on it hahaha...in my younger days I liked to do other stuff on fridays so a quick splash got it done lol
havent been on so much lately because satellite internet at my new place is frustratingly slow...but I havent gotten a bill for like 6 months either...I'm not complaining hahaha
havent been on so much lately because satellite internet at my new place is frustratingly slow...but I havent gotten a bill for like 6 months either...I'm not complaining hahaha
yeah so its not really a plain water feed is my point . most people don't take the time to PH or add anything to plain water & creates a helluva shock to the plant .
nope, str8 canna coco, catch tray under pot, waters and lets plant use run off also, by the 2nd day you can imagine how a big plant sucks up water, no phing,
Deezy I remember you ding that lazy Friday deal
got me swingin !!! have no idea how they pull it off with no problems .
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Imo, the leeching is to loosen residual nutes, not yet used by the plant.
Makes me wanna ask...
What about the nute that your plant is using most at that time?
If your plant is using all its food,no need to leach. With that said, I deffo hit mine with some plain water evey once and a while, but not on any consistsnt basis (because they do fade quickly).
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Makes me wanna ask...
What about the nute that your plant is using most at that time?
If your plant is using all its food,no need to leach. With that said, I deffo hit mine with some plain water evey once and a while, but not on any consistsnt basis (because they do fade quickly).
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Yup, the 1/4 strength nutes is just to keep the coco from locking everything out for the fade, but essentially were doing the same thing, just letting the plant finish what's available. I've noticed my plants yield wayyy better now that they're not undergoing the stress of over watering like when I used to do a legit flush, better swell the last two weeks never hurt anybody
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When I had excessive runoff PPM in coco, and suggested running straight RO, I was bitch slapped, and told I would screw up cation exchange. I was told to use half strength, and maybe something like florakleen in it. I had fed 600 PPM and had runoff up to 2600 PPM after a few weeks not checking.
DJM style growing
DJM style growing
Hi folks, just getting back into the thread after a year or so away. Only 700 pages to go.
The rules have changed where i live so actually growing is now a possibility for me. In trying to get caught up, i came across a thread by DJM. Some folks here have posted in his thread.
I was curious if that approach plays out for gg4 folks in other climates, grow situations, etc. I know its a bit of a vague question but just wanting to learn as much as i can.
I searched this gg4 thread for vpd but only saw a few entries back in 2015.
thanks for any opinions, ideas, discussion
DJM style growing
Hi folks, just getting back into the thread after a year or so away. Only 700 pages to go.
The rules have changed where i live so actually growing is now a possibility for me. In trying to get caught up, i came across a thread by DJM. Some folks here have posted in his thread.
I was curious if that approach plays out for gg4 folks in other climates, grow situations, etc. I know its a bit of a vague question but just wanting to learn as much as i can.
I searched this gg4 thread for vpd but only saw a few entries back in 2015.
thanks for any opinions, ideas, discussion
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