Gorilla Glue #4

[TheSilverMullet]

Just a sump pump w/ a hose and wand is so much less hassle than scooping from a bucket.

I'm trying to graduate to drips on a timer but somehow I can't seem to motivate for that project with all the other stuff I have to do.

 

[Tardigrade]

Bobby, when you do your watering do you use a wand connected to a Pump/rez.. My room is packed like that as well. getting to ea plant is a choir. I need to rig up some kind of wand that will reach in to help water ea plant. Using a 2ltr pitcher scooped from a 5g bucket is a PITA...

Pump and wand are the way to go.

As for the in between those two, the most pro thing I've ever seen is a Retractable Air Hose (water runs through her just fine)...well worth the $60 from Harbor Freight...and the first time she winds herself back up, you will know that money was well spent. Mount it right over your rez barrel and your life gets easy and your setup gets clean.

http://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-x-25-ft-premium-retractable-air-hose-reel-69234.html

 

[shishkaboy]

How many scoops you guys using for let's say a 5 gal?

Mine get 4 half gal scoops.

 

[StudenTeacher]

Bobby, when you do your watering do you use a wand connected to a Pump/rez.. My room is packed like that as well. getting to ea plant is a choir. I need to rig up some kind of wand that will reach in to help water ea plant. Using a 2ltr pitcher scooped from a 5g bucket is a PITA...

I water with a pump and hose as well. I don't like a wand at the end because I always get it caught while pulling it out from under the canopy, and it's hard to maneuver in general. I use a small shutoff valve at the end of the hose, then add another 24-30 inches of hose after that. So it's like a flexible watering wand. The valves might last 2 rounds max but they're like $4. You can water a 20 light room in 15-30 min depending on pump size. Lots of plants in small pots means a small pump is needed, or else be really careful opening the valve. Big plants and pots use big pump. Makes drain to waste a snap.

 

[Bobby_Stainless]

Bobby, when you do your watering do you use a wand connected to a Pump/rez.. My room is packed like that as well. getting to ea plant is a choir. I need to rig up some kind of wand that will reach in to help water ea plant. Using a 2ltr pitcher scooped from a 5g bucket is a PITA...

Yes sir. I use a big brute trash can, pump, and a wand.

That retractable hose is sexy.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

ive been drooling over the retractable hose for a while. youre making me wanna pull the trigger.

 

[Hammerhead]

I have a hose. I just need to find fitting that connect the air line to the pump. 3/8" NPT to 1/2-3/4" NPT.. I can move the 55g drum into the closet. the hose will reach from there. I will give it a shot.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

i run an in line external 1 hp booster pump with a pressure actuated "on". (100 bucks harbor freight) just turn on the hose or wand or faucet or irrigation valve and the pump senses the line opening by the pressure drop and kicks on til you close it and it builds back up to trip the relay back off. if you dont like all the constant on off a pressure tank helps alot. it runs longer but less often. optional.
i run it with a galcon 6 zone propagation timer (75 bucks)
those turn on irrigation valves (12-18 bucks a pop.)
then you just need a tank or trash can etc and in line sediment filter (30bucks)
i run manifolds pepco octabubblers 8 site 1/4 od port (13 bucks ) and fan jet micro sprayers (few bucks but they are bombproof no clogs).

sureshot has a buildout description i copied his and added a few tricks of my own to make it even easier to run without being there, i sometimes have to not go in my room at all for days on end and trust its going well. this system is imo flawless cheap and easy to build for someone like me with no prior knowledge of using pvc or doing plumbing or using anything but a sump and rez and wand. they key is a good manifold and emitter combo with the right size pump and easy to program timers. once i set this up my plants immediately looked better, lol.
the robot is never late or early with lunch. perfect feed perfect amount at the perfect interval is a really big game changer i couldnt acheive on my own schedule handwatering a multifeed per day coco grow.
you could use this on soil
coco or other soilless dtw
hydro recirculating rez too. its just a simple green house irrigation set up. super cheap and easy, i set up my first one in a vary small closet attic grow. worth every damn minute and penny of materials and labor costs. i think if you dont include rez and the cost of pvc plumbing which is relatively cheap. the tank filter pump controller and wire will run you 200-225. bucks plus 15 -20 bucks per zone AND 2-4 dollars per site.
less than 500 bucks in a twelve liter with 5 zones i put together.
set it and forget it. life got easier.

i just did a twenty lighter on this system on an r.o. system that feeds the rez tank from an ro tank the same way i have this set up. with r.o. on tap ive plumbed it with a float into my humidifiers and i dont get that humidifier glaze from the tap water minerals. the humidifiers used to put all over my glass hoods etc. those are wired to humidistat. since i trickle feed the humidifiers i have to use a pressure tank or they would constantly run.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

I have a hose. I just need to find fitting that connect the air line to the pump. 3/8" NPT to 1/2-3/4" NPT.. I can move the 55g drum into the closet. the hose will reach from there. I will give it a shot.

http://www.dudadiesel.com/choose_it...-FJZ9CuppI0LmWtUzm4Rm1v4VUpLqFVopsaAvtS8P8HAQ

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

sorry this is the one http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331042741677?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82

 

[marrdogg]

Just a sump pump w/ a hose and wand is so much less hassle than scooping from a bucket.

I'm trying to graduate to drips on a timer but somehow I can't seem to motivate for that project with all the other stuff I have to do.

That's what I need to do cause having a room full of damn near 8 foot tall plants and hand watering is a BITCHHH! The wand and pump method always ends up fucking up on me when the long ass hose gets pinched or the pump goes I always resort back to hand watering. I only have 17 plants now in flower but they are so huge it makes it very hard to maneuver even with a wand. Im 6'4" my little brother is 6'5 both of us disappear in the flower. Don't think I'll flower this big again, I don't like when I can't see tops of plants. I use two 2 1/2 gallon containers to do my watering, I have two 50 gallon reservoirs that have to be filled every other day sometimes daily. Each plant will "drink" at between 1 1/2-2 1/2 gallons when livhts come on at 3:30, by 10:30 the need an additional blast to last until lights on then repeat. I've managed to get my complete water times down to around 30-35 min. I also have another room with 25 5 1/2 footers 8,000 watts ready to flip last of the "bigs" monday. Takes me maybe 15 min to water those and at this point they drink through 50 gallons a day easily.
Now someone give me some ideas on how to automate this but gives me the ability to be able to easily check each and every plant because I like to know we ach individual one personally that's just me. I have never really run a drip system but also want to know if common garden valves be used to create different gates like a home garden/yard to be able to water each zone individually with a simple garden timer. Can 3/4" pvc be used as main lines then metered down 1/2" pvc feeding drip heads directly? What size pump woud be recommended since it will only need to supply nutrients to one zone at a time. But you guys see where I'm going so please chime in for criticism and and advice on this one cause I'm a newbie to this and just putting together scenarios of things that I think are possible but may actually be bullshit so peeps give it to me straight! Sorry about misspelled shit hung out with old lady and we're both kinda shit faced.
PEACE!

 

[marrdogg]

i run an in line external 1 hp booster pump with a pressure actuated "on". (100 bucks harbor freight) just turn on the hose or wand or faucet or irrigation valve and the pump senses the line opening by the pressure drop and kicks on til you close it and it builds back up to trip the relay back off. if you dont like all the constant on off a pressure tank helps alot. it runs longer but less often. optional.
i run it with a galcon 6 zone propagation timer (75 bucks)
those turn on irrigation valves (12-18 bucks a pop.)
then you just need a tank or trash can etc and in line sediment filter (30bucks)
i run manifolds pepco octabubblers 8 site 1/4 od port (13 bucks ) and fan jet micro sprayers (few bucks but they are bombproof no clogs).

sureshot has a buildout description i copied his and added a few tricks of my own to make it even easier to run without being there, i sometimes have to not go in my room at all for days on end and trust its going well. this system is imo flawless cheap and easy to build for someone like me with no prior knowledge of using pvc or doing plumbing or using anything but a sump and rez and wand. they key is a good manifold and emitter combo with the right size pump and easy to program timers. once i set this up my plants immediately looked better, lol.
the robot is never late or early with lunch. perfect feed perfect amount at the perfect interval is a really big game changer i couldnt acheive on my own schedule handwatering a multifeed per day coco grow.
you could use this on soil
coco or other soilless dtw
hydro recirculating rez too. its just a simple green house irrigation set up. super cheap and easy, i set up my first one in a vary small closet attic grow. worth every damn minute and penny of materials and labor costs. i think if you dont include rez and the cost of pvc plumbing which is relatively cheap. the tank filter pump controller and wire will run you 200-225. bucks plus 15 -20 bucks per zone AND 2-4 dollars per site.
less than 500 bucks in a twelve liter with 5 zones i put together.
set it and forget it. life got easier.

i just did a twenty lighter on this system on an r.o. system that feeds the rez tank from an ro tank the same way i have this set up. with r.o. on tap ive plumbed it with a float into my humidifiers and i dont get that humidifier glaze from the tap water minerals. the humidifiers used to put all over my glass hoods etc. those are wired to humidistat. since i trickle feed the humidifiers i have to use a pressure tank or they would constantly run.

Im fucking loaded just read this big help brother. Im going to sleep, PEACE!

 

[z-ro]

Don't buy a retractable hose they are pieces of junk and hardly flow any water even with a strong pump and largest diameter they offer. When I returned them, the lady was like, oh yea these things get returned constantly. I really wish they worked better, they were a million times easier to drag from room to room than my standard red industrial hoses.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

Don't buy a retractable hose they are pieces of junk and hardly flow any water even with a strong pump and largest diameter they offer. When I returned them, the lady was like, oh yea these things get returned constantly. I really wish they worked better, they were a million times easier to drag from room to room than my standard red industrial hoses.

Couldn't you swap out the hose and use the mechanism the same. Prolly need a inversion piece or two but just wind up you favorite hose on the same wheel.

 

[z-ro]

I was talking about the expandable hoses that are made of a thin light tube that is supposed to expand under pressure.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

oh yeah those look terrible. the coiled hose too. i had the kind you see in produce sections of grocery stores, they are coiled up. every single one got pinholes. light damage maybe?

 

[Hammerhead]

With a small setup like mine I don't think the retractable option would hurt. I have 20 in a 12 x 10 room.. What ever I come up with it will be better than the bucket. I can get those fittings at ACE.

I just need the 3/8" adapter. This pump might not be strong enough after adding 25' hose.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

A sump for ponds is what you want. I think you can get the standard size you'll find at shops or hardware store is a 1/4 or maybe 1/3 hp. That'd be the best size I've found for using a submersible pump with a simple hand watering hose and wand set up. . They can burn out but will usually last a couple years. They are usually a round upright cylinder unit about 10 -12 inches tall 6 inches wide. It pulls liquid from under the bottom. Sits upright in tank and you mount hose to it. They run the same amount as that external in line pump I described above. I think the latter is a better product for irrigation set ups but for a wand it is more than adequate to use either.

 

[cooterbrown420]

http://www.bghydro.com/mondi-utility-sump-pump-1585gph.html?utm_source=google_shopping

changed my life

 

[Hammerhead]

I will go look at ACE see what they got. The pump is the easy part. Finding room in the flower room for another rez is not.