Gorilla Glue #4

[Alpha Phase]

You can literally knock out a HRM infestation in veg using nothing but Sulphur/Neem/Ic3 essentria oil. There's way too much reading material on Icmag for posting bullshit like that. I understand if you have a massive grow or rely on it for money it can be alarming, but this is IC we should have all digested the info posted on the old Broad Mite thread by now.. That is not by any means a jab at you Whadeez, I disagree that organic controls are ineffective, and Avid should be the last thing to use as mite populations worldwide have developed avamectin tolerance.

IME russets are only mildy more difficult to destroy than spider mites. They can damage cuts so I've heard, but I've taken plants from the deepest degrees of broad mite infestation and turned them into healthy trees..

Like I said, I'll relay the info, but we have a friend with a horticulture degree. Russet will kill your garden fast, have you had them? Or just broad mites? Broad mites imo are no harder to get rid of than regular spider mites, no doubt, but russet are a different story, they eat avid for lunch. I'll relay the info none the less, and yes, we've read everything about here, there and everywhere. It's the fact that more than many say they could not kill them with organic means, at least on a large scale. I mean, a few plants, I'm sure it's easy to get under control, but with multiple grow houses, there 's no way that will work imo, but if it is as easy as you say, well, we will be extremely happy.

 

[Alpha Phase]

Met 52 is organic btw. The rest are used in veg . but met 52 is more dangerous than avid. Organic doesn't mean safe, so wear a respirator.

The thing is, that many people notice, is the organic methods only keep them at bay, and they come back if you miss a spray. That's how we got them. Someone was keeping them at bay but saying their clones were clean. 2 months later russet outbreak. Took 2 months, because we do not and have never had serious pest problems, so there is no ipm program. All it takes is a couple microscopic eggs to hatch (they can hibernate in soil) then you lose a whole crop. It's that fast. And you may have them even when things are going fine, then bam! They are no Joke.

Is there anyone else that has completely eradicated them using organic methods, without having to have an ipm just for russet mites? If so, chime in. I need to hear everything about them and learn any new info that we don't have.

 

[MrTea]

Russets eat gland heads from the inside out correct? You can't fully rid yourself of them if you have plants in flower. That was my Biggest mistake that I learned the hard way. Systemic are as essential as the knockdown pesticides are in this case.

 

[Relentless]

23 days on this glue

 

[Alpha Phase]

Russets eat gland heads from the inside out correct? You can't fully rid yourself of them if you have plants in flower. That was my Biggest mistake that I learned the hard way. Systemic are as essential as the knockdown pesticides are in this case.

Yes, they are that small. I use a 200x scope and it's hard to see, makes a tricomes look like a balloon. The can hitch rides on a leg of a white fly. Crazy bug , makes broad mites look like a cute puppy.

 

[Alpha Phase]

I just want to say, forgive me if you have russet mites and not a garden that constantly has plants in flower in different stages. Obviously try the organic route, no biggy if you have to cull the flower plants and work on the veg plants for a handful of months to eradicate them. But trust me, you don't just want to keep them at bay. If oils and neem is your thing, go for it. Make sure to document with pics of the progress for others to see/learn from and show that the problem was taken care of with the products you've used. I've not personally seen the documented use of these oils and such, maybe it's out there though. For a bigger garden, do the same and talk to hydro shops and see what other locals are using to eradicate them completely. And please, don't be clueless if your using biological pesticides or chemical pesticides, no one wants to smoke that shit, please use them properly. I've given a list of the products being used for larger scale grows in veg and the best omri organic pesticide for flower (met52). Use with care, be smart.

Carry on

 

[oceangrownkush]

Met 52 is organic btw. The rest are used in veg . but met 52 is more dangerous than avid. Organic doesn't mean safe, so wear a respirator.

The thing is, that many people notice, is the organic methods only keep them at bay, and they come back if you miss a spray. That's how we got them. Someone was keeping them at bay but saying their clones were clean. 2 months later russet outbreak. Took 2 months, because we do not and have never had serious pest problems, so there is no ipm program. All it takes is a couple microscopic eggs to hatch (they can hibernate in soil) then you lose a whole crop. It's that fast. And you may have them even when things are going fine, then bam! They are no Joke.

Is there anyone else that has completely eradicated them using organic methods, without having to have an ipm just for russet mites? If so, chime in. I need to hear everything about them and learn any new info that we don't have.

You are mistaken, once you know what you're dealing with russet mites are just as easy as any mite. Geraniol in the ic3 is a broad spectrum contact miticide, the oil formulation also works to suffocate any mites on the leaf surface. The eggs take 2 days to hatch, so if you wanted to use strictly organic controls every 2 days spraying would do the trick. You could also be lazy and water the roots with Kontos and spray with ic3. One two one two.

 

[Seaf0ur]

You can't fully rid yourself of them if you have plants in flower. That was my Biggest mistake that I learned the hard way.

and this is my "I told you so" face....

 

[Alpha Phase]

You are mistaken, once you know what you're dealing with russet mites are just as easy as any mite. Geraniol in the ic3 is a broad spectrum contact miticide, the oil formulation also works to suffocate any mites on the leaf surface. The eggs take 2 days to hatch, so if you wanted to use strictly organic controls every 2 days spraying would do the trick. You could also be lazy and water the roots with Kontos and spray with ic3. One two one two.

If Geraniol works, that's great, but I honestly haven't seen it come up in any of the horticulture studies I've read. I do know on the Colorado gov website, it says that there is not enough studies for evidence about essential oils working to eradicate them. And the hemp russet mite is only known to attack the hemp/Marijuana species. My friend does have kontos for the battle, though. That has been mentioned by the horticulturist. But, still, I'm skeptical of oils, no offense at all. If it works for you that's great, but for many it seems a combo of pesticides, many consider bad, must be used, at least from horticulture / farming articles at hand. Some are organic, but some are not, but it's a combo of pesticides that need to be used on a long rotation. How many times have you had hemp russet mites before? Just one and that's all? Did you have a crop on continuing rotation, or shut everything down to veg? All information is helpful

 

[Yodaweed]

Did you try azamax to kill them? I'm not sure if it works but I know it works on spider mites so might be worth a shot, it is organic I believe. Good luck hope you get them gone.

 

[Tonygreen]

i just stopped by to say that bubble bags suck the balls

lot of fuckin work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

idk whats worse now trimming or makin hash lolo

 

[GET MO]

^^^ HAHAHAHAHA!!! I remember being dumbass stoked to get some bubble bags. Must of used um a total of like 4 times, then was done with that mess. Got a trimbox or tumble box or some shit, now its either tumble the shit or bho. My folks said they had someone who would do all your shake with co2 tho, they just wanna keep half the product, so ima look into that next season. That shit take time, Id gladly give away half of it to keep them hours for something else and still have some quality shtuff.

 

[Hammerhead]

I use my 2 bags all the time.. I use a washer then drain it through my 73um and 45um bags.

 

[Yodaweed]

Yeah I got a bubble now 5 gallon washing machine, works really well set it and forget it.

 

[GET MO]

I could see how a washer and a draining stand would make it a lot smoother process, I went from using my hands and wooden spoons to a paint mixer. I prefer to smoke keef and vacuum purged shatter/wax/crumble/whateverthenewnameisforit over bubble though.

 

[/sunglasses]

alt+230 µ

 

[Ichabod Crane]

I use my 2 bags all the time.. I use a washer then drain it through my 73um and 45um bags.

This is what I do. Easy as crap. The trick is to get a full mesh bag. Then cut the bottoms off some buckets. Put the bag in a bucket and then the bucket with out a bottom slides into the bag. It pins the bag between the two buckets. Turn on the washer and go do something else. Come back in about twenty minutes and shake out the remaining water and dump the hash. Simple as can be.

 

[whadeezlrg]

different bucket for every bag, pull bag, pour water into next bag, repeat. I dont use the 25u bag...drains way too slow. even 45u bag drains slow but you have you get the pop-n-drop motion going to help drain the small bags a bit quicker.

I'm going nuclear on these russets, in veg only. avid, ovacide, and forbid 4f. flower is perpetual, but I havent confirmed the presence of the russets in my flower room so I think I'm just going to spray mighty wash on a fairly regular basis just to be safe.

 

[Wendull C.]

Deezy was just giving you a hard time man hope you kill those fuckers

 

[Ichabod Crane]

The DE duster I posted earlier is only about $50 on Amazon and the DE was about $25. Use that around your room to prevent bugs from walking from plant to plant. It is cheap for what it does. I dont know if it will kill your mites but it will the ones walking from plant to plant. And it works non stop with no degrade.

http://www.amazon.com/EarthDuster-1212-Dustin-Mizer-by/dp/B002KIB680