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Gorilla Glue #4 - Part II
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~star~crash~
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crazy huh? i appreciate friendship.. it's easy to tell who's friendly and whos not lol
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~star~crash~
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yeah dont pay attention to whodat, hes a clown lol.
while were on the subject of serious sprays in here, anyone have any suggestions on something i could spray outside my building as a general preventative to keep away whatever lurks in a summertime field? perimeter of building does come within ten ft of my blueberry (the actual berry) bushes
while were on the subject of serious sprays in here, anyone have any suggestions on something i could spray outside my building as a general preventative to keep away whatever lurks in a summertime field? perimeter of building does come within ten ft of my blueberry (the actual berry) bushes
Damn y'all, gimme the benefit of the doubt. I was speaking of the product itself being clown shoes, I wasn't directing it at you Chemdawggy.
buried in snow up to my waist & puffin' glue!!
shovel shovel shovel
same here dude ! burried in almost 26" of the white shit !!
just pointing out how ruthless the pesticide for ganja game is. how insincere
now that you KNOW what's in it (harmful chems) you know IF you want to use it and how to properly use it
Chemdawggy Dawg
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pacoclandestino
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Hi mate!
If you don´t mind me giving you advise on the mites problem,i have to deal with it from time to time,since i don´t keep a mother and i rely on other people for cuts
If you are growing for your own weed,and have flowers allready,try organic natural products,but take into consideration you will have to be very constant,and it is a lot of work.There is plenty of remedies,but in my opinion all weak.
if you are growing for comercial purposses,go chemical all the way,you can use those products up to the first month flower(most of them are used in stuff we eat,their security timing is one month prior consumption,and even less sometimes)
I use the following combined,every 5 days,first Abasi 5 days later Milbelknock,normally two uses of abasi and other two of milbeknock should kill the lot.Use your magnifying glasses or microscope to check,in my case i never need more than that,sometimes it aint that bad that you still have a small amount of them,as THC production rises when plants are under attack,but i rather not to have them and have strains with high THC content
Abasi: Abamectine 1,8%,kills the mite but not the egg,you have to wet the top and bottom of the leafs
Milbecknock:made of 93% milbectine...this one is a bomb,that kills eggs and mites,also is translaminar(you don´t have to wet under the leaf)
For mother plants use the chemical solution get rid of the mites clean the place and start again.
By the way always spray when dark,never with the lights on
Another thing you could do with your mother,is live her out on the cold for a few hours,mites hate that,but the eggs could survive.
I hope it helps,and don´t worry,we tend to make a big deal of this but once you get to solve it,you will get rid of them.I got them a few times and I never stoped my grow room
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pacoclandestino
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If you have anything in your garden that might bring you mites,fungus etc...get rid of it.Thats the best solution.You have to set your priorities outside garden or inside garden,problem using pesticides outdoors is that mites get used to it they become inmune,so if they do get in they will drink the poison like if it was a gin tonic and carry on with their lives.
You could control them,neem works wonders as an example,but as i said.if there is a risk of them geting inside get rid of those plants, and maybe put others that mites and fungus don´t like,that depends on the weather were ever you live
Abamectin is avid mang... and regardless what the bottle says is NOT SAFE.... can't be so sensitive ...I've never seen that product so I'm still Glad you posted it but broads r not Ya typical mite. any way Star check out the broad mite thread man. There's 2 ways to approach this... start over, don't know what other clones you have I only saw Ya gg4 what's replaceable what isn't.... but I wouldn't worry bout glue bet ppl r offering Ya cleaner cuts already.. that or start ordering you need more then avid... you need the arsenal plus some...
There are no studies done concerning the health effects of any of these pesticides on smokable cannabis. Making hash will concentrate the pesticide applied to the plant.
At best it is a guesstimation on when it would be safe, I'd guess 3-6 clonings later and 6-12 months, with one year being better. ONLY a guess though.
Relying on the FDA to tell you when it's safe to eat pesticide treated produce is really taking your life into your own hands. They increase what is an acceptable amount to consume sometimes on an annual basis.
Pesticide manufacturers have lobbyists that in some cases actively seek to increase acceptable limits in produce. Look up glyphosphate's track record, gets increased every 1-2 years.
There are studies assessing pesticide presence and concentrations in various cannabis products and in their smoke. Those studies can be used in conjunction with prior animal studies that do report dose related effects to reasonably extrapolate human risks in inhaling or ingesting pesticide containing cannabis products
Dollar
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Mr Joesy Whales! This is for you! I have been growing weed for 28 years and searching for a strain that set the bar higher than all others before and never found it until your Gorilla Glue #4. Your strain is so ridiculously good!!! Its like a dream I never thought would come true!! I am so blessed to be able grow this most rare and unique plant! Thank you for sharing with all of us! Mad props brother!!!
There is an accumulating amount of data on pesticides being used on cannabis. Emerald cup info and the various testing facilities are helping a lot with that. How much is in cannabis smoke is VERY limited, but the Wercshop link you provided shows some.
There are also animal tests done in the past to find out LD rates for pesticides. Of course you realize that is oral and not smoked pesticides.
To say you can extrapolate from oral dosages to get anywhere close to an accurate guess on what the smoked effect would be is still a guess.
Ask someone who's tried smoking a drug versus oral consumption, a bit more intense by a lot. You are charting new territory when you guess at an acceptable smoked pesticide level.
Are you aware animal studies have missed some major health hazards in the past? PCB's, asbestos, benzene, and cigarette smoke are examples of animal tested products that were missed for a long time, delaying protections for those exposed.
It sounds like you have your mind made up about using whatever it takes to finish a crop, I think you owe it to others if you are supplying them with cannabis how you justify what you are putting in/ on it.
I think you read more into my entry than I am saying. I was pointing out that while research on humans is minimal, there are data on pesticides in cannabis published in peer reviewed journals and those studies suggest significant risk from those residuals.
I don't know what is ok to use or not, in terms of safety for ppl smoking the product or in terms of collateral effect. I'm trying to find that out.
Sorry if I was unclear in what I was saying
Ona
When i read all that is writed i get that growing your own cannabis whithouth
dangerouss protectives is a must,simply you cant trust people,specialy not to
"commercial produced weed" farmers...
problem is that people will destroy your health cause they need your money..
money over health was never good idea IMO..
reminds me on Fukushima tragedy cause there also people play with other people
lifes cause of money,work of devil and egoistic humans that will made money
with dangerous ideas to build nuclear plants on turbo-frequent earthquake area
while their brains are awared that this is not such a good idea,but they will ignore
all facts cause of some big money they can pull from other people.
People act like consciouss beings but in reality they are so far away from being
smart... thats why i never aloud anybody else to grow weed for me.
dangerouss protectives is a must,simply you cant trust people,specialy not to
"commercial produced weed" farmers...
problem is that people will destroy your health cause they need your money..
money over health was never good idea IMO..
reminds me on Fukushima tragedy cause there also people play with other people
lifes cause of money,work of devil and egoistic humans that will made money
with dangerous ideas to build nuclear plants on turbo-frequent earthquake area
while their brains are awared that this is not such a good idea,but they will ignore
all facts cause of some big money they can pull from other people.
People act like consciouss beings but in reality they are so far away from being
smart... thats why i never aloud anybody else to grow weed for me.
I hope I was reading more into your post than was actually there. The part about being able to reasonably extrapolate from oral and dermal dosages to get the smoked safety seemed like it was being stated as almost standard practice or fact.
I obviously don't know you or your practices, and they are your business.
I get tired of letting it slide when I read posts like paco's reccomending unsafe/untested chemical application's to others/ new growers. Your post seemed to rationalize ways to accomplish that. (My interpretation)
I apologize if I got that wrong.
