Gorilla Glue#4 my L.A. cup cut.

[StoneyK]

Can we move the dud argument out of here?
Im gonna do a few things on my end an try ro see if I cant get her to spring back an I will document it. Ive still got weeks with her.
Ive also got some much much more robust specimines 1 week in to flower now and they have had none of the issues that this one plant has had.
They are healthy great root systems very nice growth rates and eating well.
Now if for some reason I have an issue with these then maybe something strange has happened but id like to ask everyone to please give me a chance to really trouble shoot this responsibly and properly before jumping to conclusions.
I appreciate everyone taking the time to cruise in an check things out but id like to get things back on track its still a journal, the show must go on! Lol

 

[StoneyK]

These are the better vegged glues.

 

[StoneyK]

Some shitty wifi pics

 

[StoneyK]

An some cooooookies.
Gonna have to run a full table of these soon they are fast becoming a real heavy favorite for me.

Just starting to see the first purpling.

 

[StoneyK]

Jusr for quick comparison. These are the plants I just posted new pics of at the start of flower 7 days ago...
Easy to see how the new growth is filling in quickly.

 

[localhero]

callin bullshit on that.

mg

OK you could probably with constant care keep a cutting alive in a rapid rooter or rockwool for two months before it roots, but Fuck that I'd rather poke my eyes out. In this makeshift aero cloner I made I just pop a cut in and wait. I don't have to mist or manage humidity. Eventually everything drops a root. So much faster and nicer though from a healthy plant to begin with. Some random bud plant I found growing in my back yard rooted in 3 days. Why so fast? It was a beautiful hearty plant with seed grown vigor.

 

[localhero]

Those don't look dudded to me at all by the way. Micro leaves and woody tight internodes is what I know as dudded.

 

[Crooked8]

Those glues all look healthy. My apologies for trying to explain my opinion/experience. I guess my setup is "bitch ass". I guess thats why i get so many pms asking for my genetics and questions about my process. I guess having run over 100 strains is bitch ass. Adios, good luck with the glue stoney your other flowers look great too.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Overgrow you referenced lower branches with less vigor being responsible for dudding. Quality directly translates to dudding. Duds are low quality. "Duds all day" you said, which is not true. Lower branches do not cause duds. Sharpen up? Please, sharp as a tack over here, you tried to blame this dudding on something that was for sure falsehood. Sorry man but its true. Not trying to clutter up anything, just clear up whats right from wrong. You gave incorrect information. Taking a lower branch with less vigor and momming it and giving out cuts from said mom DOES NOT cause "duds all day". I dont meant to upset you, its just fact.

Last post about this and Im done.........
I said in the very first line of my post:
"Not saying this is the issue...." So Im not saying this cauzed your type of duding. Im saying it can cause a "DUD" in a different way. K?
There can be low quality banches on any plant at any given time. These produce unvigorous plants that are quick to lower the quality of any given strain.
Take these for a clone Mom and suffer the consequences. Thats all Im saying. These can be confused with your type of duding that you guys are talking about. NOT saying that it is.... Just saying...Be on the lookout for those too, while cloning. God! what a headache now.
You really did just spin my post to hell and back bro.

 

[JointOperation]

all i can add.. is that when i go into my rooms.. and see smaller branches not getting enough light.. ill clone them.. with no problems honestly.. but if u allow those branches to stay
in a low light area of your room.. for too long.. they wont turn into good clones later down the road.. you need to nip it in the bud literally.. gotta clone them once you notice they arent growing as quickly as the rest of the branches.. if u allow them to slow down and start to lighten in color and shit.. then u waited to long to clone.. and ull have to nurse them to health before flowering them...

but i have never seen a dud from a clone from a low light area.. not that looked like a BM DUD AT ALL.. the GG4 i was supposed to get looks identical to a BMites Dud...

but we have another source of GG4 .. and i gota wait until i have the money to buy them instead .. so instead of trading for them.. now im paying 250 for 5 clones.. but like i told him. ill pay for the 5 clones.. but dont come asking for trades later when u want shit i have.. and the 5 clones better be 100% healthy or im not taking any of them..

 

[StoneyK]

Lil update.
The glue is starting to do a little better getting sticky and starting to smell a bit.
Did some tieing back an gave it a lot more light an cut the waterings down to every other day.
Its frosting up a lil more too.
Still quite obviously NOT an ideal run.
But not a dud, just mistakes made.

 

[StoneyK]

Some shots of the wifi.
Starting to get heavy an fall in spots I cant reach to tie up
Its just dripping with friggin tricombs!
Smells so lemony

 

[StoneyK]

An the cookies,
Sorry they are getting real hard to get to now the room is full.

 

[Storm Shadow]

Lil update.
The glue is starting to do a little better getting sticky and starting to smell a bit.
Did some tieing back an gave it a lot more light an cut the waterings down to every other day.
Its frosting up a lil more too.
Still quite obviously NOT an ideal run.
But not a dud, just mistakes made.
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10000000% DUD u did nothing wrong , rest of u r crops look healthy for now

 

[StoneyK]

I think your wrong an ive got the whole plant here in front of me an ive seen it the whole way thru.
Its not a healthy great plant at this point but I think thats about the long an short of it.
If you mean its a dud in the respect that its not gonna yield nice an be top shelf then yea this was a dud.
But if your tryin to say its because of disease I dont think thats a fair assessment at this point there are just too many other factors that could an would make a plant not perform up to its potential.

 

[Storm Shadow]

Denial will only hinder u r future progress with this new problem you have, it can live inside it's host for almost 2 years b4 showing itself.

 

[StoneyK]

Its not denial...
Im just not so willing to jump to conclusions.
When I have a plant that has had no problems in veg has an adequate root system and good light and it falls flat on its face... THEN id say its time to start wondering about the worst case scenarios.

 

[Storm Shadow]

Viral infection , over the next few months your mom's are going to get sick if u don't take preventive action now , just saying ... dud is in the house

 

[Mister_D]

Denial will only hinder u r future progress with this new problem you have, it can live inside it's host for almost 2 years b4 showing itself.

So what exactly is "it"? You mention you're certain it's a viral infection, but no mention of what virus. Seems like the logical starting point if you're going to make that argument

 

[LyryC]

Viral infection , over the next few months your mom's are going to get sick if u don't take preventive action now , just saying ... dud is in the house

Before you make claims of this sort - please provide VALID current - up-to-date TRUE information PROVING such OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS!

Never heard of duds. If anything you sound like a dud.

some times not everything is perfect buddy.

I grew some vintage 2006 - seed plant with the worst vigor - bud development - and frost - good smell. Now with what you are saying - I have a dud. It was weak all around. Now was that because of me or the plant?

Id say me. cause I grew out 2 clones off that bitch and fuck me i wish i kept one of those clones cause that shit was BOMB! totally different plant - 2x stretch - FAT buds - great smell - deep colors... But if I thought like you and tossed it probably in flower... i would of never had that great experience I did later on and savor/miss.

Stoneyk - Shit looks dank! Don't sweat the 1 un-happy plant... can't kiss everyones ass!